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Spacefish69
July 21, 2012 at 11:27:22 PM
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Can someone please explain to me why the #51 sprint car ran the main event. They didn't show up or run the semi-main he was supposed to be in. Yet he makes the main. What about all the cars that ran the semi-main and had to put their car on the trailer. Please explain? If its a promoter's option can you please explain what that is. It all seems unfair to ALL the other drivers.


raj
July 22, 2012 at 01:13:23 AM
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Can someone please explain to me who had fast time, won the heats, the B and the A? TY.

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July 22, 2012 at 01:48:08 AM
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33 cars

Heat Race Winners (if I remember correctly)- Ryan Bernal, Brian Camarillo, Brandon Thompson, Mike Spencer (from 8th)

B Main was won by Kevin Kierce

Main Top 4 Brody Roa, Cory Kruseman, Johnathon Henry, Ryan Bernal

Johnathon Henry started pole and led the first 20 or so laps before his right rear started to give way. Brody (from outside pole) nudged him out of the way going into one to take the lead. Kruseman (started 8th) followed Roa through and kept close until the checkereds fell. Bernal started 10th, fell back a bit after having contact with another car, then worked back to 4th.




raj
July 22, 2012 at 02:01:45 AM
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TYVM!

JayP
July 22, 2012 at 04:57:47 AM
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Posted By: Spacefish69 on July 21 2012 at 11:27:22 PM
Can someone please explain to me why the #51 sprint car ran the main event. They didn't show up or run the semi-main he was supposed to be in. Yet he makes the main. What about all the cars that ran the semi-main and had to put their car on the trailer. Please explain? If its a promoter's option can you please explain what that is. It all seems unfair to ALL the other drivers.


Do know they started 21 cars and the 55 was anounced as the alternate. Good question. Maybe Big Mike can explain. The tires were all used up. More rubber on the track and in the air than at a drag race.



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Posted By: JayP on July 22 2012 at 04:57:47 AM

Do know they started 21 cars and the 55 was anounced as the alternate. Good question. Maybe Big Mike can explain. The tires were all used up. More rubber on the track and in the air than at a drag race.



TYPICAL VENTURA ,,,,,THATS ONE OF THE REASONS 'Y' USAC DROP THIS PLACE,,,POLITICS AND BAD MANAGEMENT ,,,I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,ZZ


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July 22, 2012 at 10:46:12 AM
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Congrats to Brody . Think the reason the 51 was in main is because of passing points not exactly sure as I probably wasn't watching that car to close in heats . Shame on Ventura for not working that track in intermission . They ruined a chance for a great night of racing and to keep this fan coming back . I was excited when I decided to drive that far and they had a great car count . And sure as hell they ruined it . Rocks and rubber and no cushion . A little track work could have changed all this ,instead of follow the leader until I nudge you up out of the way . So until I hear of new clay and positive feedback from Ventura . Good Luck .
We need more sprint car racing at our home track.

Beerman
July 22, 2012 at 11:30:12 AM
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This message was edited on July 22, 2012 at 11:31:33 AM by Beerman
The rocks coming off that track are flat out dangerous!What is it going to take for Naylor to do somthing about this?IGuess we will have to wait for someone else to get seriously hurt.Sad! Best car count they have had all year wasted on that poorly prepared track.

Sylvia
July 22, 2012 at 11:32:13 AM
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Unofficial Results for July 21st by Ventura Raceway on Sunday, July 22, 2012 at 2:26am (from Ventura Raceway facebook page) ยท

Ventura Raceway Race Results for 07/21/2012

VRA Sprint Cars

Race #8 07/21/2012

Main Event Results: 1. Brody Roa, Buena Park, 30 Laps; 2. Cory Kruseman, Ventura, 30 Laps; 3. Johnathon Henry, Stockton, 30 Laps; 4. Ryan Bernal, Hollister, 30 Laps; 5. Tom Hendricks, Simi Valley, 30 Laps; 6. Brian Camarillo, Camarillo, 30 Laps; 7. Brandon Thomson, Ventura, 30 Laps; 8. Mike Spencer, Temecula, 30 Laps; 9. Zach Sawyers, Phoenix, Az, 30 Laps; 10. Kyle Smith, Moorpark, 30 Laps; 11. Richard McCormick, Aqua Dulce, 30 Laps; 12. Troy Rutherford, Ojai, 30 Laps; 13. Kevin Kierce, Reseda, 30 Laps; 14. Kenny Perkins, Victorville, 30 Laps; 15. Clark Templeman III, Santa Clarita, 30 Laps; 16. Jeff Fillingame, Santa Paula, 30 Laps; 17. Derek Buckley, Ojai, 29 Laps; 18. Justin Kierce, Reseda, 16 Laps; 19. Ronnie Case, Camarillo, 16 Laps; 20. John Nock, Newhall, 15 Laps; 21. Mike Trottochau, Acton, 9 LapsLap Leaders: Johnathon Henry (1-23), Brody Roa (24-30)

Heat Race Winners: Extreme Mufflers Heat 1: Ryan Bernal; LRB Manufacturing Heat 2: Brandon Thomson; BR Motorsports Heat 3: Brian Camarillo; Kaeding Performance Heat 4: Mike Spencer

Weld Racing Hard Charger: Kyle Smith

DJ Safety Hard Luck: Mike Trottochau

Top 10 in points: 1. Kyle Smith, 1610; 2. Brian Camarillo, 1430; 3. Clark Templeman III, 1405; 4. Tom Hendricks, 1370; 5. John Nock, 1325; 6. Bruce Douglass, 910; 7. Troy Rutherford, 870; 8. Richard Ortega Jr, 715; 9. Jeremy Ellertson, 705; 10. Jeff Fillingame, 695

All Coast Challenge Top 10 in points: 1. Mike Spencer, 440; 2. Cory Kruseman, 430; 3. Troy Rutherford, 390; 4. Tom Hendricks, 360; 5. Brian Camarillo, 355; 6. Kyle Smith, 350; 7. Johnathon Henry, 325; 8. Zach Sawyers, 305; 9. Brody Roa, 250; 9. Clark Templeman III, 250




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July 22, 2012 at 11:32:46 AM
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Sure would be nice if someone would post the results before next week....thanks Dean...



76dad
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wow that was fast....lol...Dean



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July 22, 2012 at 12:50:00 PM
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This message was edited on July 22, 2012 at 12:54:57 PM by Sjrenegade
It was announced that the event would be ran under ASCS points for heat races. If I remember correctly Kyle (51) started up front in his heat. He finished fourth in his heat. He did not get the transfer because of the ASCS points. Kyle was then suppose to start the B main and was announced to be in the race but did not show (from what I heard thinking he transfered to main). So it was blamed on poor officiating that the 51 team was not informed that they were in the B main.

So the B main went off. Four transferred the last NOT being the 51. Main event time comes and 55 is announced as the alternate and 51 is in the field with a start of 21 cars.

How do you not make the show but make the show? In that case no one should of ran the B main. Bitch and moaned then just started the A. Also if they used the promoters provisional crap then why not start 22 cars? But please don't insult the intelligence of your fans. They'll find out and threads like this start.
The track was garbage, all night with ppl who uncharacteristicly spin spinning.

Big Mike great show put forth, and it was seen by the greats that returned last night. Even ppl that said they'd never come back came back ($$$ always talks). In the stands it was circulated that you may have had something to do with the above provisional???

Salute to whom ever is responsible for creating a great atmosphere (autographs, bands, ppl talking) and wished that every Saturday night was that way again.


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Posted By: JayP on July 22 2012 at 04:57:47 AM

Do know they started 21 cars and the 55 was anounced as the alternate. Good question. Maybe Big Mike can explain. The tires were all used up. More rubber on the track and in the air than at a drag race.



I don't insert myself in the officiating in any way. I heard that Kyle was mistakenly told by a track official that he was in the main and did not need to run the semi. The track realized their mistake too late for Kyle to run the semi. They used a "provisional" to rectify their mistake. Seems reasonable. Track sucked, you have to call a spade a spade. But that didn't diminish the hard work of all the Ventura Raceway employees, thank you for helping me to make this event enjoyable, special thanks to Noel Dawson. I am determined to help get that track surface better. I am even more determined about the final race in November. I am really enjoying the process of planning and presenting All Coast races. Heartfelt thanks to anybody that hauled a distance and supported this event. Stoked to see a young kid with talent and a smart dad wrenching win that money. That could describe Jonathan Henry, that could describe Terry Nichols, that could describe Kyle Smith or a lot of drivers, but this time it was Brody Roa. Wins at Yuma, third place at the last Perris, fast time at Santa Maria, wins the All Coast Challenge. Go Brody Roa or what! I am going camping this week with the kids and probably will not be able to reply any comments. I'm just gonna "sit on this bank of sand and watch the river flow".

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To not work on that track during intermission was the worst decision I have ever witnessed in 45 years of attending races. Someone should be fired.
Jeff Kristensen

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This message was edited on July 23, 2012 at 10:24:21 AM by Buzzard-
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Posted By: Nose 2 Tail on July 22 2012 at 09:12:23 AM
TYPICAL VENTURA ,,,,,THATS ONE OF THE REASONS 'Y' USAC DROP THIS PLACE,,,POLITICS AND BAD MANAGEMENT ,,,I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT,,!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,,ZZ


Once again, you run your keyboard without any of the facts. All in caps still like an idiot child starving for attention.

USAC did not drop Ventura raceway.





Beerman
July 23, 2012 at 10:46:07 AM
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Well USAC may not have dropped Ventura,but that does not mean they don't have politics and BAD MANAGMENT!But the. again that could aplly to USAC as well.

JayP
July 23, 2012 at 11:26:30 AM
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Posted By: Raceway Video on July 23 2012 at 09:02:54 AM
To not work on that track during intermission was the worst decision I have ever witnessed in 45 years of attending races. Someone should be fired.


But hey good job scheduling the deal to go up against a horse show, carnival rides and fair prep. At least there was no fandango going on in the parking lot. Sad. I miss the shopping cart and donkey races.



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This message was edited on July 23, 2012 at 07:47:11 PM by Nose 2 Tail
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Posted By: Buzzard- on July 23 2012 at 10:23:57 AM

Once again, you run your keyboard without any of the facts. All in caps still like an idiot child starving for attention.

USAC did not drop Ventura raceway.




WELL ,,OUNCE AGAIN,,buzzard, I'AM GLAD TO SEE THAT MY CAPS RUFFLE YOUR FEATHERS DOWN TOWARDS YOUR REAR FEATHERS,,AND ONCE AGAIN THE BIRD THINKS THE BIRD KNOWS IT ALL,,,,,,I HAPPEN TO KNOW MORE ON THIS ISSUE THAN ANY buzzard,THAT SITS ON A POLE LOOKIN FOR ROAD KILL,,,,IAM SURE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE VENTURA MANAGEMENT NEEDS OR WANTS TO KEEP YOUR buzzard ASS AROUND ,,SUCH AS IN YOUR GREAT PHOTOGRAPHY ,, YES I SAID GREAT, I WILL GIVE CREDIT WERE CREDIT IS DO... BUT 'B' CARFUL WHEN VENTURA MANAGEMENT IS THRU WITH YOU AND YOUR POSITIVE NEEDS ,,,THAY WILL SHOOT YOU RIGHT IN THE ASS JUST LIKE THAY HAVE WITH EVERY ONE IN THE PAST,,AND THAT INCLUDES 'USAC' ,,BUZZARD,, YOU NEED TO STAY OUT OF POLITICS AND DO WHAT YOU DO BEST TAKEN " PICTURES ",,,DONT STAND UP FOR VENTURA TO SUPORT YOUR BUSINESS ,,, AS A buzzard YOU DONT WANT TO END UP LETTING THEM SHOOTING YOU RIGHT IN THE ASS,,, IT WILL HAPPEN,, KEEP YOUR SELF FREE ,,,AND FLY LIKE A BIRD,, NOT LIKE A POLITICIAN JUSTIFYING YOUR NEEDS...END OF STORY....ZZ


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Posted By: dirtface on July 22 2012 at 10:46:12 AM
Congrats to Brody . Think the reason the 51 was in main is because of passing points not exactly sure as I probably wasn't watching that car to close in heats . Shame on Ventura for not working that track in intermission . They ruined a chance for a great night of racing and to keep this fan coming back . I was excited when I decided to drive that far and they had a great car count . And sure as hell they ruined it . Rocks and rubber and no cushion . A little track work could have changed all this ,instead of follow the leader until I nudge you up out of the way . So until I hear of new clay and positive feedback from Ventura . Good Luck .


So until I hear of new clay and positive feedback from Ventura . Good Luck .... That's saying a lot coming from you Randy.

See the Nose 2 Tail post above this? Remember our conversation? Lets!..LOL


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

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This message was edited on July 25, 2012 at 10:50:00 AM by jdfast

WHAT"S WRONG WITH VENTURA RACEWAY AND FAIRGROUNDS MANAGEMENT???? I have been going to Ventura since they ran TQ's in the late 1970's. I even raced karts on the small and big track. It was always a fun place to watch a race or even being a participant. The last 3 or 4 years I have noticed a change in attitudes. Instead of large car counts in all classes, they are half if not less than that in most cases. ECONOMY-my ass. Go to Tulare, Oildale, Perris, Santa Maria, (any track in the midwest) and the car counts are pretty good these days. Perris is even getting good car counts now with 410's and support classes. And even for the kids classes, they get like 3 drivers at Ventura while I have seen 10-15 cars in same classes at Santa Maria. Gonna tell me the economy is different in Santa Maria than Ventura.

Track Preparation - I have no idea why Ventura track is so bad (especially for the heat races). If you know the track is going to be horrible by starting the heat races at 5:30 or sooner. START THEM later. Have less classes (but more competitors in the classes), have a good prepared track ie does not have to redone everynight. What's the advantage to starting at 5:30 if you are gonna have to take 45 minutes to redue the track later everytime. How about start them at 6:30 a more reasonable hour.

BUT HERE"S MY OWN PERSONAL GRIP about Fairground Employees. For the last 3 years I have had nothing but grief from their parking lot attendants. Like I said, I have been going to the race track for over 30 years, I knida know how the parking has worked. I travel to the races with a disabled person who has much difficulty walking distances. Ventura Raceway took away about 15-30 spots for disabled persons when they concreted new disable parking, which was further away from the front gate. Does that even make sense, make the disabled parking further away than able body parking. The parking lot attendants said they could do nothing about it, "A STATE LAW". Funny at Tulare, Oildale, and Santa Maria they have lots of disable parking that does not have concrete. All of Perris parking is paved, so they also have plenty of parking. SO if you want disabled parking, you gotta be at Ventura around 3 pm, sorry I am not going to Ventura that early to get a parking spot.

Two years ago, I parked my car near the front and it was inside the white chalk marks. For whatever reason the parking lot attendants told me I had to move my truck. I told them how bad the parking was for disable persons, that I was within the chalk mark. He didn't care and told me to move it or I would be towed. At this point I told him he was "JERK" for making parking so difficult for handicap people. I than proceeded to move my car and than this thug of a parking lot atttendant (this big guy 6'1, with a moustache, Green Bay Packers sweat shirt, and jail house tattoos on his neck (he still works at the fairgrounds), came after me and OPENED MY VEHICLE door. I repeated what I said, you are a BIG JERK for how you are treating a disabled person. I TOLD HIM HE BETTER SHUT THE DAMN DOOR!!!Oh did I mention the chalk mark I was within the line. After I moved my truck, a couple of fairground workers kicked the chalk mark so it wasn't there anymore. Any one who has come to Ventura raceway in the past, know's how cars park anywhere. Gotta say it is better now with the chalk mark. But with only 10 so disabled spots (and I know for a fact, sometimes the fairgrounds workers themselves use the disabled spots, there just is not enough disabled parking.

In the past, there was plenty of disabled parking and it was closer when you could park against the pit fencing right next to the front gate. I thought, Ventura Fairgounds workers suck, but I know the rules. I just drop off the disabled person at the front gate, park my vehicle and enjoy the races (although this is hard to due with track conditions, low car turnout and apathetic feeling among everyone).

HOWEVER THIS LAST WEEKEND WAS THE WORST. When I get to the track, all the disabled parking are gone, both the dirt and pavement parking by the barn(?). I asked if I could drop off the disabled person at the front gate (IE LIFT A PLASTIC GATE) and they politely said no. I repeated, all I wanted to do was drop off a disabled person. I was furious. I thought maybe they were kinda picking on me because of my previous run-in with Ventura Parking Lot idiots. However, I heard them tell the same thing to a lady that had a broken ankle. I thought maybe they would call over a golf cart and help my situation and/or the lady with a broken ankle. Well, my disabled person struggle to get to the front gate and was in a great amount of pain getting there when IT WAS NOT NECESSARY AT ALL.

I wished all tracks were as fan friendly as Santa Maria that offers assistance to disable persons. I forgot to mention, the disable person I take to the races is my MOM, who also had a stroke earlier this year. She likes to go to the races and she wanted to get back doing things before the stroke. Yeah she was disabled before she had a stroke and it was a major pain to go to races at Ventura (unlike ALL THE OTHER TRACKS IN SO CAL). However, I will publicly say, for them not allowing me to drop off my Mom who is both disabled and had a stroke this year, THEY ARE THE BIGGEST DICKS I know who work at race tracks and/or fairgrounds anywhere I know.

I've heard similiar comments from race fans at the Trophy Cup in TUlare. They were from central part of the state and they referred to the Ventura Parking lot attendants as "thugs" All they wanted to do was BBQ some hamburgers and have a few adult beverages before the races. I didn't know this, but I guess this is prohibited in the parking at Ventura frown

I will say I support Jim Naylor, I think he works hard at his job. But the pervasive arrogance at the track for competitors and the fairground employees, is too much for me too handle. Although I have put up with it the last few years, I always felt rewarded after watching a great main event. Although the track can suck really bad for heat races, you always knew Jim would prepare a great track for the sprint car main event. This last week, we had two intermissions, the track sucked for the very first race (heat races) and inexplicably nothing was done for the mainevent. It was awesome field of drivers and cars, unfortunately all the negative stuff I read on the message boards came true. Fortunatley for me, living in Southern Ca, there are many options to do things on Saturday Night (especially with the schedule of Perris, Santa Maria, Tulare, Hanford, Victorville Smile now,plus there are so many other things to do is SO CAL, I don't think I will be going very often if at all in Ventura until they start doing things like they did in the past.

Even without my personal problems with Ventura Fairgrounds Parking Staff, Ventura raceway is feeled with apathy from competitors, race fans and I dare say even race officials. On a positive note, Perris is having a CRA race this weekend, and Hanford and Santa Maria are having the ASCS series at their tracks too. Looks like a double header for me this weekend. I know for sure all these tracks are disabled friendly and the race fans and competitors are happy campers.

Doug Lierle

PS I really didn't want to write this publicly and I have a fond affinity for Ventura. And I never mentioned in the past any of my numerous problems with fairgrounds employees for fear it would give the raceway a bad reputation. But I felted I needed to vent in the hope Ventura Raceway and Fairgrounds staff would make changes for the positive. Even when Ventura is back to normal for parking, ie you can do dropoffs, IT IS STILL NOT FAN FRIENDLY FOR DISABLED PERSONS. Not enough disabled parking and the few spots they do have, sometimes the fairgournds workers use them (shame on them !) Ideally I would like to see Ventura do what Santa Maria has, plenty of disabled parking (in the dirt and pavement) AND assistance with golf carts for disabled who have trouble walking. No dirt track is perfect, but just a few changes at Ventura would make the situation so much better for both competitors and fans. I said my peace





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