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The Facts for 2013 Sprints

2013 will bring IMCA sanction and rules to Eagle Raceway for the Sprint car class in an attempt to bolster the sprint car count. We feel that the sprint show has lost its fan appeal with the low car counts and feel it is unfair to the fans to not try a change.

In fairness to Eagle Raceway’s loyal sprint cars, there will be a one year phase in period through the end on 2013. Any sprint car competitor without an IMCA RaceSaver engine will be allowed to compete with a restrictor, supplied by Eagle Raceway at no charge, on top of the stacks. Details and specifications will be coming soon. There is also a few other cost saving minor changes with the RaceSaver rules: example…minimum weight, minimum right rear durometer 35, less titanium, etc.

The IMCA sanction will allow drivers to compete for track, state, regional and national points while providing a nationally uniformed set of rules. This move to IMCA is not an attempt to slash the purse as falsely rumored. The sprint car purse will be similar to the existing purse with the same car count provisions as used for the last 2 years. We will be working hard for the same point fund structure also for 2013 and beyond.

Eagle Raceway will be offering help to existing and new participants in an attempt to make this a successful move. We realize the first years of change will be a struggle as we experienced with the hobbys, sport compacts and sport modifieds in their inception into Eagle Raceway’s family, and hope for the same success with the IMCA Sprint cars.

We are sure the next 9 months until the 2013 season opens will be full of questions with both pessimism and optimism. We are optimistic and open to hear everyone’s questions and input. We are available Monday thru Friday at the office 402-238-2595. Sprint car rules can be found at IMCA.com under sprint rules, then click on RaceSaver.

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They are welcome to "try" anything they please. I see it as a slap in the face to their current teams who HAVE supported the weekly program. The 4 Doorbanger classes were too much to begin with, but now take away the loved 360 class and Im out. I hope they do well. Ill be there for the 360 "specials", but its not worth a 4 hr drive to see 4 fendered classes plus 305's to me. I guess Knoxville will be seein me more.

Way too many taxi cab classes and a worn out track will kill any kind of sprint car class.

C-ya Eagle raceway, would not wanna be ya.

Maybe I'm just stupid, but two of the powers that be are crazy if they think the following as stated above.

This move to IMCA is not an attempt to slash the purse as falsely rumored. The sprint car purse will be similar to the existing purse.

There is also a few other cost saving minor changes with RaceSaver rules: example...minimum weight, minimum rear duramoter 35, less titanium, etc.

My question would be this, How is a purse "similar" to the existing purse the same purse, sounds like doublespeak in the event the cut it.

As for the cost savings, the existing teams have to SPEND MORE $$$ to add weight and remove the titanium they already own, this is NOT a cost savings to your existing teams.

No wonder the guys running there currently keep leaving...

The "similar" purse means that Roger is either going to keep the purse as it is right now with $1,000 to win or take some off of the top and spread it throughout the feature. Either way, about the same as it is now.

I hope this works for Eagle but I have yet to put my arms around the 305's. I like speed in my sprint cars and I don't see a lot of it in the 305's. I guess we will see how it all plays out.

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For those teams competing, they will have to spend more to change to these new rules. However, the rule change is not for the teams that are competing. It is for all of the teams that have parked the cars over the last several years. It is a way to get them to come back without having to spend a large amount of money on new titanium parts. It is also aimed to make older cars more competitive. Finally, it is addressing the issue of the large amount of money spent on 360 motors. Some of the teams currently competing, may not be able to continue to spend the money needed for 360 racing.

If Eagle had a large healthy field of 360 cars, they would not be making this change. Obviously, the promoter thinks that there are more cars sitting on the sideline because of costs than are currently competing, or he believes that many of the existing cars may soon be parked because of expenses.

When watching a 305 compete against a 360, it is obvious of the differences. However, when you are watching a 305 only show, they will put on a very good show. They will still be much faster than the other classes at the track.

So, by your logic you'll get they guys that quit racing back, but you are going to run off the ones that are still racing with you. Sure, that makes sense to increase the car count.

My bet is you'll be lucky to pull in the same amount of 305's as you are of 360's currently. You're just exchanging the ones on the sideline now for teh ones currently racing (like putting 5 new guys on the court after a timeout in basketball).

To not consider the teams competing currently with rules change is STUPID and short-sighted. Eagle needs ALL of it's existing teams and to gain some that are on the sidelines. Looks like some of the existing teams are leaving Eagle due to the rule changes and you may not even get the ones on the sidelines currently to come back (until they put a car out there, they aren't back).

Eagle basically lost all 360's for 2013, The car owners and owner/ drivers had a meeting earlier this week, they voted to start a 360 racing group in this area, and try to get local tracks to race at each a couple times a year . One track had a representative at the meeting and anounced a plan for possibly 4 races next year, another track had a rep at the meeting also showing interest but not commitment yet.. The amount of representatives for cars was 27 I believe. and 3 were not present but wanted to cast a vote to move along with this racing group (NOT Named YET). With 4-5 more cars not at meeting for one reason or another. So as you can see the Interest is in the 360 still.

The car count at Eagle has dwindled for various reasons, Purse Structure, The Rule Change anouncement, Promoter Tyrade, Some were injured, some on vacation. Some because of track conditions. and many various reasons. I'll stop here to keep this positive.

There will be plenty of 360's racing just not at Eagle,

305 Purse as the promoter said is supposed to be the same based on a 24 car field, but remember he has lowered the purse because of low car counts at Eagle twice.

In my observations most start up classes don't produce a 24 car field in the first year, and after researching most 305 tracks are realizing about 8-9 cars a night on a average. and some of the tracks have been running 305 sprintcars for a few years. If I was going to build a 305 for Eagle I would be concerned about car count, If it is low will the promoter boot us as he did the 360's, what would the purse be if we produce 9 cars like some other tracks, all fair questions I believe.

I like the idea of a Nebraska area Sprint series. Seems to have worked pretty decent here in Missouri. The only problem Ive seen with the group up there is the unwillingness (or possibly ability?) to travel and race different tracks. Maybe this will be the answer, maybe not. I sure hope so.

In a USMTS mod show Thursday night at a VERY small track ( not a motor killer) for a 4000 to win 400 to start A mod event they had TWENTY TWO A mods - this car count issue isn't only limited to Eagle Raceway's 360 sprint division.

They should go to this engine, http://www.alternative410motor.com/. Phase it in with the 360's. JMO

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Simple answer, Promoter. has over the years made most of these guys upset with him in many different ways, the last one was the anouncement of the IMCA racesaver rules, that stopped a 3 car team from coming every week. . and two were injured, one was on vacation that puts it right at twenty. . enough said without getting too real bashing.

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I've heard they charge for stamps to mail your check.

they have five classes running and it does get late at times getting out,

If you have a sprint car you get treated like a second class citizen, that is why most cars are not running at Eagle.