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Does anyone remember the woo on pavement? what tracks and years please? also what year did they race flemington nj speedway?

Long Live  20 Time  World Of Outlaws Champion Steve 
Kinser #11 

I believe that it was on pavement because of which Wolfgang had his horrific fire from sparks and such because of the surface. I think it was

in Kansas City.

My wife told me if I went to one more Sprint Car race 
she would leave me.................I'm sure gonna miss 
that ol' gal. 

Lakeside Speedway. They ran there twice,November of 1991 and in April of 1992.

Florida, indoors....I think around 1990......Still awaiting payment...

Member of this message board since 1997

The indoor race at the Sun Coast Dome was on dirt.

Curt Grogan

And hopefully they never do it again.

Charlotte County Speedway in Punta Gorda, FL. Late 80's or very early 90's. In addition to pavement, it was also combined with the All Stars with points for both series. Very impressive racing by the dirt guys. Would like to see the WoO run pavement again.

....Opperman forever!

First WoO/All Star Co-Sanctioned Pavement Race

1992 World of Outlaws Copenhagen-Skoal Shootout Sprint Car Series
1992 The Club All Star Circuit of Champions Sprint Car Series
Charlotte County Speedway, Punta Gorda, Florida
Monday, February 10th, Preliminary Feature

Autolite Pacesetter Qualifications:
1. Danny Smith, Lindsey 2D, 12.707; 2. Dave Blaney, Chupp 7C, 12.737; 3. Danny Lasoski, Luna 10, 12.884; 4. Lee Brewer Jr., Elden 1S, 12.912; 5. Mark Kinser, Williams 5M, 12.933; 6. Ed Lynch Jr., Lynch 2L, 13.050; 7. Steve Kinser, Kinser 11, 13.052; 8. Tony Elliott, Newkirk 17, 13.062; 9. Aaron Berryhill, Berryhill 97B, 13.084; 10. Keith Kauffman, Wintermyer 1W, 13.098; 11. Stevie Smith, Hamilton 77, 13.108; 12. Sammy Swindell, Annett 1, 13.121; 13. Wayne Hammond, Knowling 66; 27. Red Stauffer, Stauffer 2S, 13.599; 28. Jimmy Sills, Hampshire 63, 13.623; 29. Rickey Hood, Weikert 29, 13.631; 30. Kenny Jacobs, Wimmer 7TW, 13.696; 31. Rocky Hodges, Holbrook 24, 13.727; 32. Bob Seelman, Seelman 74, 13.821; 33. Johnny Mackison Jr., Barshinger-Hughes 65, 13.837; 34. Randy Hammer, E Harbor Builder 92, 13.870; 35. Robbie Stanley, Stapp Racing 4U, 13.934; 36. Brent Kaeding, Miller 69, 14.117; 37. Ricky Logan, Saucier 20, No Time.

Bar's Leaks Heat Race (8 Laps)
1. Joey Allen, 2. Wayne Hammond, 3. Rod George, 4. Aaron Berryhill, 5. Mark Kinser, 6. Danny Smith, 7. Terry McCarl, 8. Rickey Hood, 9. Johnny Mackison Jr.

Snap-On Tools Heat Race
1. Andy Hillenburg, 2. Keith Kauffman, 3. Dave Blaney, 4. Jim Moulis, 5. Kenny Jacobs, 6. Ed Lynch Jr., 7. Jim Childers, 8. Craig Keel, 9. Randy Hammer

Third Heat Race
1. Bobby Davis Jr., 2. Frankie Kerr, 3. Todd Kane, 4. Danny Lasoski, 5. Steve Kinser, 6. Stevie Smith, 7. Red Stauffer, 8. Rocky Hodges, 9. Robbie Stanley

Fourth Heat Race
1. Sammy Swindell, 2. Jeff Schrum, 3. Lee Brewer Jr., 4. Tony Elliott, 5. Brent Kaeding, 6. Jimmy Sills, 7. Bob Seelman, 8. Lance DeWease, 9. Gary Wright

Tums Trophy Dash (4 Laps)
1. Steve Kinser, 2. Mark Kinser, 3. Lee Brewer Jr., 4. Tony Elliott, 5. Danny Lasoski, 6. Dave Blaney

B Feature (12 Laps)
1. Stevie Smith, 2. Danny Smith, 3. Craig Keel, 4. Terry McCarl, 5. Jim Childers, 6. Red Stauffer, 7. Rickey Hood, 8. Ed Lynch Jr., 9. Bob Seelman, 10. Jimmy Sills, 11. Johnny Mackison Jr., 12. Robbie Stanley, 13. Gary Wright

Preliminary Feature (20 Laps)
1. Dave Blaney [6]; 2. Steve Kinser [1]; 3. Danny Lasoski [5]; 4. Danny Smith [7]; 5. Sammy Swindell [11]; 6. Joey Allen [18]; 7. Tony Elliott [4]; 8. Frankie Kerr [13]; 9. Jim Childers [22]; 10. Aaron Berryhill [8]; 11. Keith Kauffman [9]; 12. Jeff Schrum [14]; 13. Andy Hillenburg [12]; 14. Mark Kinser [2]; 15. Rod George [15]; 16. Bobby Davis Jr. [20]; 17. Stevie Smith [10]; 18. Todd Kane [17]; 19. Brent Kaeding [24]; 20. Jim Moulis [19]; 21. Terry McCarl [21]; 22. Craig Keel [16]; 23. Kenny Jacobs [23]; DNF-Lee Brewer Jr. [3].
Lap leaders: Steve Kinser 1-5, Dave Blaney 6-20.

Lap-5: Dave Blaney takes 2nd from Mark Kinser; Lap-11: Yellow flag for Mark Kinser, Lee Brewer Jr., tangle. Brewer done for the night; Lap-19: Yellow flag for Stevie Smith, spins in turn 2.

1991 World of Outlaws Copenhagen-Skoal Shootout Sprint Car Series
Inaugural Asphalt Nationals
Lakeside Speedway, Kansas City, Kansas
Saturday, November 9th, Preliminary Feature

-Historic first event on asphalt for the WoO Sprint Car Series. Steve Kinser had agreed to run in Australia at the conculsion of the WoO campaign prior to this race being announced.
-An estimated 2,100 fans were in attendance for both shows run under cold afternoons.

Qualifications:
1. Frankie Kerr, Shoff 23S, 14.890(New Track Record/120.97 MPH); 2. Joey Allen, Allen 1A, 15.072; 3. Dave Blaney, Weikert 29, 15.205; 4. Sammy Swindell, Annett 1, 15.244; 5. Kenny Jacobs, Wimmer 7TW, 15.369; 6. Mark Kinser, Williams 5M, 15.573; 7. Shane Carson, Vielhauer 12X, 15.588; 8. Hank Lower, Lower 37L, 15.673; 9. Greg Fedewa, Nosal 42, 15.679; 10. Danny Lasoski, Vance 3V, 15.733; 11. Darrell Dodd, Dodd 11, 16.124; 12. Jeff Bloom, Bloom 67, 16.368; 13. Johnny Parsons, Plummer-Walker 0, 16.501; 14. Rick England, England 30, 16.705; 15. Greg Schaefer, Schaefer 12, 16.718; 16. Mike Blake, Blake 81, 16.745; 17. Ed Perryman, Perryman 29X, 17.764; 18. Mike Thomas, Thomas 37, 18.192; 19. Jim Braden, Braden 94, No Time; 20. Danny Smith, Nance 1N, No Time.

Bar’s Leaks Heat Race (8 Laps)
1. Hank Lower, 2. Johnny Parsons, 3. Darrell Dodd, 4. Frankie Kerr, 5. Kenny Jacobs, 6. Mike Blake

Snap-On Tools Heat Race
1. Joey Allen, 2. Greg Fedewa, 3. Dave Blaney, 4. Mark Kinser, 5. Rick England

Ford Trucks Heat Race
1. Sammy Swindell, 2. Jeff Bloom, 3. Shane Carson, 4. Danny Lasoski, 5. Greg Schaefer, 6. Mike Thomas, 7. Jim Braden

Tums Trophy Dash (5 Laps)
1. Mark Kinser $100; 2. Shane Carson $50; 3. Sammy Swindell $50; 4. Kenny Jacobs $50; 5. Frankie Kerr $25; 6. Dave Blaney $25.

Preliminary Feature (25 Laps)
1. Mark Kinser [1] $5,010; 2. Sammy Swindell [3] $3,510; 3. Joey Allen [7] $2,010; 4. Frankie Kerr [5] $1,510; 5. Kenny Jacobs [4] $1,210; 6. Dave Blaney [6] $1,010; 7. Shane Carson [2] $1,010; {-1}8. Greg Fedewa [9] $860; 9. Hank Lower [8] $760; 10. Danny Lasoski [10] $710; 11. Rick England [14] $610; 12. Mike Blake [16] $510; 13. Greg Schaefer [15] $410; 14. Ed Perryman [17] $410; 15. Jim Braden [18] $410; 16. Jeff Bloom [12] $410; 17. Darrell Dodd [11] $410; 18. Johnny Parsons [13] $410. DNS-Mike Thomas; DNS-Danny Smith.
Lap leader: Mark Kinser 1-25.

Start: Yellow flag for the stalled car of Darrell Dodd; Lap-4: Traffic; Lap-25: Mark Kinser wins by three car lengths.

Do ya want more....

bristol motor speedway 01ish to....oh wait, nevermind....

but seriously this is some good info, where did you find that michael?

Is it not bad enuff that they degrade a sprint car by grafting a wing to it without wishing them to race on pavement? Opp fan ya gotta be Posse, no reasonable sprint car fan anywhere else in this great country of sound mind would imagine such a travesty!

LOL Offie. As bad as a lot of the dirt racing is now pavement may be the way to go for better racing. We see the Knoxville bunch on here bemoaning the quality of their racing and track conditions. Maybe it would be best to pave Knoxville Raceway. I'd be more interested in going back to the Knoxville Nationals to see how the top sprint racers would do on pavement. It might even bring Knoxville up close to the quality of the Little 500 at Anderson, Indiana! The Little 500 should be a WoO points race. Offie, I can't believe that a non-wing guy like you doesn't go to the Little 500. It's wingless. LOL

P.S. Thanks for recognizing that Posse fans and racing are the best.

....Opperman forever!

Michael98a; any way you can email me the results from above? [email protected] bye jeff

Long Live  20 Time  World Of Outlaws Champion Steve 
Kinser #11 

WoO at Flemington was in 1989 or 1990, but the track was still dirt then. Low car count, little passing.....

Chuck.....

The race that they had in the sundome the driver have never been paid.

Ted Johnson eventually paid Karl Kinser with a cup of coffee and he was content, principle wins out again, true story. Take It Easy....

Michael, thanks for posting those old results. I loved reading them. I have a few comments about those results:

The first year Flemington (N.J.) was paved, they scheduled what was supposed to be a 30-lap feature for winged 410s during their big DIRT Modified 200 weekend in late October. Anyway, the race attracted only nine or 10 cars, one of which was Frankie Kerr. Nearly the entire rest of the field was a collection of low-dollar 358 drivers. The race was changed from a 30-lapper to twin 15s, due to the small car count. I know Frankie lapped the field in the first 15-lapper , and I don't remember anymore whether or not he did the same in the second race.

I don't know why, but I have no recollection of Dave Blaney in the Weikert car. That must have been a short-lived relationship. LOL

I am from Pennsylvania, but I always rooted for Lee Brewer Jr. to do well after talking with him at Knoxville maybe around 1994 or '95. It was the year he put the WiIlliams car out of California in the Saturday night A-main and a couple friends and I spent probably about an hour talking with him Saturday afternoon. He told us how thrilled he was to make the Saturday night A feature. Now Lee Brewer I do remember having short stint in the Weikert car. LOL

Totally awesome, to see history that is so well documented.  Do you  know how many races the WoO sprints ran on pavement?

And yes, it would be wonderful to read other pavement race finishes.

Thanks so much for sharing and for keeping great records

Didn't they run on "pavement" just last week at Knoxville?

Phil Taylor

home-theater-systems-advice.com

I saw all of those pavement WOO races and they had about as much passing as they have had at Knoxville the last couple of years. Been going back to Indiana sprint weeks the last couple of years and the races with sprints without the hog shed roofs are far better, three and four wide in the corners and a lot of passing. After watching these races I didn't renew my Knoxville tickets and the only thing I think we will miss are the really nice people we have met thru the years. Everyone have fun at the races of your choice. I would still rather see a bad car race than a good baseball game. Bud