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July 01, 2012 at
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July 01, 2012 at
04:30:36 PM by Gunner
This was in last nights feature with 3 to go. 80K was in the lead.
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July 01, 2012 at
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SO ..I HOPE HE BEAT MIKE K TO A PULP CAUSE HE CERTAINLY DESERVED IT..WHAT WAS HE THINKING?
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July 01, 2012 at
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thats the second track ty has been outta the park. sorry ty. i feel sorry for ya.
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July 01, 2012 at
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I couldn't agree with you more sprintfn1!!!!
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July 01, 2012 at
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July 01, 2012 at
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WOW. He topped putting Balog in the wall this soon? He's quite the driving instructor. Grandstand video you are doing an awesome job this season. You really take out the arguing about who was at fault on these "racing deals". Keep up the good work.
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July 01, 2012 at
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Kertscher a slide job means you slide in front of them not pancake them into the wall. Looks like you want to learn the hard way.
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July 01, 2012 at
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This really sucks. Feel awful for Ty. Hopefully he can get the car put back together and racing again soon.
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July 01, 2012 at
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I feel bad for Ty I think this was his first night out this year too. That 80K driver hits or runs into every other car he passes. I heard Kertcher was pressing charges on Ty and Kertcher said he was done racing.
I say good. I like slid jobs but you just can't run into everyone and you must be able to complete the pass without taking guys out.
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July 02, 2012 at
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So did bratz go give him one or what?
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July 02, 2012 at
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Posted By: Gunner on July 01 2012 at 04:30:18 PM
This was in last nights feature with 3 to go. 80K was in the lead.
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Nice camera work Gunner. Now everybody take a deep breath! Stuff happens. Watching the video posted here, (I was not there) Mike appeared to be the leader. Ty was a back-marker. When you watch the HD video in regular time, Mike entered the turn low to protect the inside from a charging Baylog. Bartz was riding the top of the turn. At the apex, (the middle of the turn) Mike began to drift high and Bartz started a sharp left toward a lower exit of the turn. Big mistake as a back-marker!
At the point of contact, Mike had an advantage over Bartz evidenced by where contact occured on the 80K. The far back 1/4 of the wing sustained damage on the 80 K. Simultaneously, Mike and Ty headed for the same track position and something had to give. As a back marker, and you know you are or at least should know you are, you have a shared responsibility to stay out of the leaders way. Mike tried to slide under and past Ty. Ty for whatever reason looked to exit low from the top of the turn. Responsibility is shared by both drivers. It was purely a racing accident. So all of you stop screaming like you belong on TMZ, it was a racing accident by two competitive drivers.
I'm not certain parking Kertscher for the incident was the right call. It appeared that is what happened? If it did, tread lightly IRA because you need kertscher right now more than he needs you. Without the 80 K this year, the IRA would have no show and the series point race would be long over. The on-track battle between Baylog and Kertscher is the best I've seen since Melius and Johnson back in the 60's. It's been building for two years, let it grow! Otherwise, your stands won't be 2/3 empty, they will be ¾ empty.
You have nothing else to hang your hat on, unless you bring in the hired guns to walk off with the prize money.
You know how your loyal drivers feel about that.
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July 02, 2012 at
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By the looks of it, the track doesn't go all the way to the wall. Ty was already running the top of the track, is he supposed to drive off and let the 80k by? If they did park the 80K, it was the right call.
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July 02, 2012 at
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Looks almost exactly like what Kaley Gharst did to Jody Rosenboom last night at Husets. Same part of the track too.
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July 02, 2012 at
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Posted By: kpederson on July 02 2012 at 10:03:31 AM
By the looks of it, the track doesn't go all the way to the wall. Ty was already running the top of the track, is he supposed to drive off and let the 80k by? If they did park the 80K, it was the right call.
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Actually yes, since you were about to be lapped by the same guy for the second time. Look at the video in regular time, (30 frames per second) and slow motion, (60 frames per second). Ty, at the apex made a sharp left and was looking to exit at the bottom of the turn. HOLD YOUR LINE AND LIVE TO RACE ANOTHER DAY and don't # up another guys race. There was no reason to drop even 1/2 a car width down. If Ty had to drive off the edge to get out of the way, then yes at that point Ty was over his head for no reason. He wasn't racing for position all he had to do was hold his line. It happens, both could have done different. Do you really believe Mike wanted hang a
a back-marker in the fence with a lap to go? Seriously, with what these guys have invested. IT'S RACING
IF HE GOT OFF THE THROTTLE, PUT ON THE BINDERS AND LET BAYLOG PASS, YOU WOULD ALL BE CALLING HIM A P#$$Y. GET OVER YOURSELVES.
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July 02, 2012 at
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46 was only about to be lapped for the first time and did not come down to the bottom. It's quite obvious who was at fault here based on the tremendous force to the right they both took upon contact.
Unless 80 all of a sudden decides to travel, I think they and IRA need each other. Let's not forget now, this is twice in a month. One car, no matter who it is, may not be more important than the ones being lost to damage. There isn't a team out there who can afford to have a car destroyed.
This was violent.
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July 02, 2012 at
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Posted By: Old Race Fan on July 02 2012 at 09:32:27 AM
Nice camera work Gunner. Now everybody take a deep breath! Stuff happens. Watching the video posted here, (I was not there) Mike appeared to be the leader. Ty was a back-marker. When you watch the HD video in regular time, Mike entered the turn low to protect the inside from a charging Baylog. Bartz was riding the top of the turn. At the apex, (the middle of the turn) Mike began to drift high and Bartz started a sharp left toward a lower exit of the turn. Big mistake as a back-marker!
At the point of contact, Mike had an advantage over Bartz evidenced by where contact occured on the 80K. The far back 1/4 of the wing sustained damage on the 80 K. Simultaneously, Mike and Ty headed for the same track position and something had to give. As a back marker, and you know you are or at least should know you are, you have a shared responsibility to stay out of the leaders way. Mike tried to slide under and past Ty. Ty for whatever reason looked to exit low from the top of the turn. Responsibility is shared by both drivers. It was purely a racing accident. So all of you stop screaming like you belong on TMZ, it was a racing accident by two competitive drivers.
I'm not certain parking Kertscher for the incident was the right call. It appeared that is what happened? If it did, tread lightly IRA because you need kertscher right now more than he needs you. Without the 80 K this year, the IRA would have no show and the series point race would be long over. The on-track battle between Baylog and Kertscher is the best I've seen since Melius and Johnson back in the 60's. It's been building for two years, let it grow! Otherwise, your stands won't be 2/3 empty, they will be ¾ empty.
You have nothing else to hang your hat on, unless you bring in the hired guns to walk off with the prize money.
You know how your loyal drivers feel about that.
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My dad was at this race and saw the whole thing. You hit it on the nose Old Race Fan. You need to hold your line when the leader is behind you. It was not Kertscher's fault. I'm glad all involved are okay. It's never a good thing when anyone goes up and over.
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Posted By: Old Race Fan on July 02 2012 at 10:27:06 AM
Actually yes, since you were about to be lapped by the same guy for the second time. Look at the video in regular time, (30 frames per second) and slow motion, (60 frames per second). Ty, at the apex made a sharp left and was looking to exit at the bottom of the turn. HOLD YOUR LINE AND LIVE TO RACE ANOTHER DAY and don't # up another guys race. There was no reason to drop even 1/2 a car width down. If Ty had to drive off the edge to get out of the way, then yes at that point Ty was over his head for no reason. He wasn't racing for position all he had to do was hold his line. It happens, both could have done different. Do you really believe Mike wanted hang a
a back-marker in the fence with a lap to go? Seriously, with what these guys have invested. IT'S RACING
IF HE GOT OFF THE THROTTLE, PUT ON THE BINDERS AND LET BAYLOG PASS, YOU WOULD ALL BE CALLING HIM A P#$$Y. GET OVER YOURSELVES.
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doesn't look to me like the outside car moved at all (RR never left the dark part of the track and front wheels were turned right the entire time) until the car on the bottom totally overshot the corner, came up the track from the very bottom to the very top and took the outside car with him.
who cares if he was 15 laps down. He paid his money, time, and effort to be there and he had a right to his part of the race track, and he never left it. the 80 started the turn on the top, shot to the bottom, and tried to use the top of the corner exiting. if thats OK to do, then I am wrong. But if the 80 learned to only use his part of the track(IE hold HIS line), he'd live to race another day as well, probably won the race, and not # up another guys race - whether he was a "backmarker" or not.
wa wa wa another car was in my way wa wa wa. if he had lifted and got out of the way of an out of control driver you would be calling him a p#$$y. get over yourself.
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July 02, 2012 at
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Short, sweet (maybe not sweet) and simple. People are over analyzing the video. Look one more time. The 46 was on the top half of the track, the 80 was on bottom half of the track, sliding his way to the top. He contacted the 46, end of story. The 46 never wavered from his line, and did nothing wrong, but to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. A slide job gone awry....JMO video does not lie.....
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Posted By: maddog53 on July 02 2012 at 11:40:33 AM
Short, sweet (maybe not sweet) and simple. People are over analyzing the video. Look one more time. The 46 was on the top half of the track, the 80 was on bottom half of the track, sliding his way to the top. He contacted the 46, end of story. The 46 never wavered from his line, and did nothing wrong, but to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. A slide job gone awry....JMO video does not lie.....
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seriously, watch the front of the 46 and watch his front wheels. Both were going for the same spot. Fact is, Ty has probably been upside down more than anyone in the IRA except maybe Irwin. And no the video does not lie. I have the capacity to break it down frame by frame and prove all of you wrong. When you look at it frame by frame, he clearly comes down off his line as Mike slides up. No over analysis just reality tv.
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Posted By: pedal down on July 02 2012 at 11:05:44 AM
46 was only about to be lapped for the first time and did not come down to the bottom. It's quite obvious who was at fault here based on the tremendous force to the right they both took upon contact.
Unless 80 all of a sudden decides to travel, I think they and IRA need each other. Let's not forget now, this is twice in a month. One car, no matter who it is, may not be more important than the ones being lost to damage. There isn't a team out there who can afford to have a car destroyed.
This was violent.
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It was violent, it was sprint car raing! I too am glad all are ok.
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Posted By: Old Race Fan on July 02 2012 at 09:32:27 AM
Nice camera work Gunner. Now everybody take a deep breath! Stuff happens. Watching the video posted here, (I was not there) Mike appeared to be the leader. Ty was a back-marker. When you watch the HD video in regular time, Mike entered the turn low to protect the inside from a charging Baylog. Bartz was riding the top of the turn. At the apex, (the middle of the turn) Mike began to drift high and Bartz started a sharp left toward a lower exit of the turn. Big mistake as a back-marker!
At the point of contact, Mike had an advantage over Bartz evidenced by where contact occured on the 80K. The far back 1/4 of the wing sustained damage on the 80 K. Simultaneously, Mike and Ty headed for the same track position and something had to give. As a back marker, and you know you are or at least should know you are, you have a shared responsibility to stay out of the leaders way. Mike tried to slide under and past Ty. Ty for whatever reason looked to exit low from the top of the turn. Responsibility is shared by both drivers. It was purely a racing accident. So all of you stop screaming like you belong on TMZ, it was a racing accident by two competitive drivers.
I'm not certain parking Kertscher for the incident was the right call. It appeared that is what happened? If it did, tread lightly IRA because you need kertscher right now more than he needs you. Without the 80 K this year, the IRA would have no show and the series point race would be long over. The on-track battle between Baylog and Kertscher is the best I've seen since Melius and Johnson back in the 60's. It's been building for two years, let it grow! Otherwise, your stands won't be 2/3 empty, they will be ¾ empty.
You have nothing else to hang your hat on, unless you bring in the hired guns to walk off with the prize money.
You know how your loyal drivers feel about that.
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tread lightly IRA because you need kertscher right now more than he needs you
HAHA yea without the 80k taking balog out at 141 he would have a bigger lead, your right. But I suppose Balog should of allowed the 80k to pass him too then? I understand your the leader but simply hold your line on the bottom he was faster anyways SMH...
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