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May 26, 2012 at
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I have to admit to enjoying that race last night. It reminded me of the old days at West Cap... biggest differnce was that no one threw a punch. I also got a kick out of Cody's interview where he said if racing was more like hockey this stuff wouldn't go on.
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May 26, 2012 at
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Sammy gave Cody the option of hitting his RR, hitting the wall, or hitting the brakes. If Cody hit the brakes, 3 cars behind him would have piled in. Sammy guaranteed that SOMEONE was going to wreck, and I'm pretty sure he didn't care who. Paul said it, you can't race with Sammy, and Sammy backed it up by saying that the wrecks were their fault for trying to race with him.
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: BigRightRear on May 26 2012 at 02:56:16 PM
Wait...rail on Sammy but stick up for the royersford roadblock?
At least Sammy was racing on the lead lap...
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I think the difference here is that the "roadblock" didn't blatantly take out 2 other cars. I guess if you're on the lead lap and racing for a dash spot, anything goes.
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May 26, 2012 at
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Not one word about Kinser going in to hard and taking someone out
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: vanh on May 26 2012 at 05:02:32 PM
Not one word about Kinser going in to hard and taking someone out
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you are really reaching for something aren't you.
to indy and beyond!!
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: Jamie Klootwyk on May 26 2012 at 09:55:53 AM
I like Doty, but he is wrong. I appreciate that he comes on and replies, but the accident with Darrah was 100% Sammy's fault. Let's quit with the rut excuse already. I saw all the replays this rut thing is BS. Sammy jumped the start and pulled up beside Lynch because he knew he needed to get high. He drove straight up between Lynch and Darrah to forcefully take Darrah's line, and he drove straight over the front of Darrah's car in the process.
This isn't about bashing Brad. It's about Sammy. No one needs to be making up bs to defend Sammy's racing in that heat. Brad Doty included. Both moves were intentional. Both moves were dirty. And his interview afterward proved both.
Sammy said nothing about hitting a rut. His comment was basically that Cody should have hit the brakes and given Sammy his line on the track and settle for 3rd. That's all the confirmation I need that Sammy drove up on purpose.
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I agree with the Jamie Klootwyk post. That is exactly what Sammy did. He knew he needed the outside groove and forced his way up there. He also knew that Cody would be there since it was at the start of the race. They are side by side and nose to tail on starts. Like Sammy said, they are gonna have to learn to brake for him or suffer the consequences.
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: buzz rightrear on May 26 2012 at 01:40:44 PM
it looks like the reason sammy turned left was because he got himself hooked when he was just getting into cody's left front.
even if the initial contact was incidental, as it might have been, sammy never checked up or tried to get off of cody even after it was clear he was into someone. he just kept his foot in it and drove over cody, and then stayed in the gas and almost took out kemenah too.
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"Sammy never checked up or tried to get off of cody even after it was clear he was into someone"
In two tenths of a second no driver can feel that they are into someone and respond.
Also please tell me how Sammy is able to know exactly where Cody is behind him on the track to take him out without taking himself out ?
"and then stayed in the gas and almost took out kemenah too."
If Sammy checks up he for sure takes out the remainder of the field.
I am guessing you have never raced. You obviously are a Sammy hater which is fine, but try to have some common sense on responses.
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May 26, 2012 at
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There's a reason Sammy never made the big time & it was all on display last night. Forty
years and he still running winged sprint cars.
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: laudarevsonhunt on May 26 2012 at 09:47:42 PM
There's a reason Sammy never made the big time & it was all on display last night. Forty
years and he still running winged sprint cars.
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that is a long list of drivers
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May 26, 2012 at
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Yea I guess that Kinser fella is a "never made the big time" guy too ?
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May 26, 2012 at
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Posted By: HoldenCaulfield on May 26 2012 at 04:57:26 PM
I think the difference here is that the "roadblock" didn't blatantly take out 2 other cars. I guess if you're on the lead lap and racing for a dash spot, anything goes.
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Please stop with your logic and common sense, it won't get very far with him.
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May 26, 2012 at
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May 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: mwilaski on May 26 2012 at 02:47:01 PM
WHAT in the hell is wrong about my statement. Your incompetence is illustrated by the fact that you say "you're wrong" but don't give any reason why. Of course, I am not wrong, so any reason you give will be invalid. What, you met Doty once so now you think you need to defend him?
I truly believe you think writing that book is a good idea, which is another illustration of how much credence anything you say should be given.
Ohhh, the editor at a daily newspaper. Come on.
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We got rid of Mr. Cantina around here. You are next. The world of auto racing message boards would be better off without you.
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May 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: fish on May 26 2012 at 11:59:58 PM
We got rid of Mr. Cantina around here. You are next. The world of auto racing message boards would be better off without you.
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Oh, no!
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May 27, 2012 at
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May 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: Twenty8 on May 26 2012 at 07:50:02 PM
"Sammy never checked up or tried to get off of cody even after it was clear he was into someone"
In two tenths of a second no driver can feel that they are into someone and respond.
Also please tell me how Sammy is able to know exactly where Cody is behind him on the track to take him out without taking himself out ?
"and then stayed in the gas and almost took out kemenah too."
If Sammy checks up he for sure takes out the remainder of the field.
I am guessing you have never raced. You obviously are a Sammy hater which is fine, but try to have some common sense on responses.
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i never said sammy knew exactly where cody was. still when he made contact he just continued to try to force his way on.
sammy is a very good driver, i have seen lesser drivers get off of someone in similar situations.
sammy said it himself, he was trying to get in the dash and cody should have let him have the spot.
sammy knew cody was back there somewhere and just kept coming up the track.
i am guessing you have never raced. still WTF does that have to do with anything? i am not saying you can't have an opinion because of it.
as far as being a sammy hater, you are really jumping to conclusions based off of my opinion from a couple of incidents that many people who also witnessed seem to share. i don't think every person who shares a similar opinion can be tagged a sammy hater. i think most people are giving their honest opinion, no matter what it is.
again, sammy said cody should have let him have the spot because cody was already in the dash and sammy wasn't. that comment was enough to let me know sammy was going to take the lane no matter what. he expected cody to just let him have the spot, just like he said that paul should have let him have the spot.
i am basing my opinion off of what sammy said as much as off of what i saw. when you put the two together, you can see sammy was willing to do whatever he had to, to make the dash.
now back to your calling me a hater. there is no reason for that. i haven't done anything but give my opinion, and done so without getting personal with anyone, which for me is kind of surprising. come to think of it i haven't even really said anything derogatory about sammy.
now you can take my opinion on things as just that, my opinion, or you can keep going in the direction you are and we can get into a full fledged pissing match. i really don't give a flying crap what you decide.
to indy and beyond!!
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May 27, 2012 at
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May 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: mwilaski on May 26 2012 at 02:47:01 PM
WHAT in the hell is wrong about my statement. Your incompetence is illustrated by the fact that you say "you're wrong" but don't give any reason why. Of course, I am not wrong, so any reason you give will be invalid. What, you met Doty once so now you think you need to defend him?
I truly believe you think writing that book is a good idea, which is another illustration of how much credence anything you say should be given.
Ohhh, the editor at a daily newspaper. Come on.
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"Oh the editor of a newspaper, come on."
http://www.fscpictorial.com/09_tony.pdf
I've tried to give sprint car racing the credit that it deserves in print and spent Saturday night at a sprint car race. But people such as yourself make me wonder why I bother.
As to your comment on meeting Brad Doty, yeah I think I have.
Jim Fisher
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May 27, 2012 at
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Posted By: fish on May 27 2012 at 12:31:32 AM
"Oh the editor of a newspaper, come on."
http://www.fscpictorial.com/09_tony.pdf
I've tried to give sprint car racing the credit that it deserves in print and spent Saturday night at a sprint car race. But people such as yourself make me wonder why I bother.
As to your comment on meeting Brad Doty, yeah I think I have.
Jim Fisher
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Good job telling me what I was wrong about in regards to my critique of how Doty analyzed the situations. That was the focal point here, I am not going to continue on attacking you personally as much as you seem to want me to (and as easy as it might be).
As many others in this thread have pointed out, Swindell was 100% at fault both times, Doty said otherwise, yet you think he is right.
As I suspected, you are only defending him because you think meeting him once or twice denotes some amazing friendship that must be defended on the internet. Again, come on.
If your journalistic skills are anything like your posting skills, you must veer off topic and disregard the truth with regularity.
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Posted By: mwilaski on May 27 2012 at 01:11:15 AM
Good job telling me what I was wrong about in regards to my critique of how Doty analyzed the situations. That was the focal point here, I am not going to continue on attacking you personally as much as you seem to want me to (and as easy as it might be).
As many others in this thread have pointed out, Swindell was 100% at fault both times, Doty said otherwise, yet you think he is right.
As I suspected, you are only defending him because you think meeting him once or twice denotes some amazing friendship that must be defended on the internet. Again, come on.
If your journalistic skills are anything like your posting skills, you must veer off topic and disregard the truth with regularity.
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You first state that "I am not going to continue on attacking you personally" and then go on to do it.
You've also attacked me (and I can only assume others) in personal messages. This message board would be better without you.
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May 27, 2012 at
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As a proud Sammy hater, and the president of the local "Anyone But Sammy Club", I was not surprised by anything that Sammy did on the track. His nickname of "Slamming Sammy" stuck for a reason. His interview only proved why I hate the man. The other 23 cars on the track are there for
Sammy to pass. It is not there jobs to race him, but to get out of his way. His ego knows no limit.
I have watched him race earlier in the year and thought that he was making some overly agreesive moves. Based on the interviews in the pits, the other drivers are tired of his antics.
I have always enjoyed Brad Doty as a TV commentator. He seems to a really nice guy. I just don't think it is in his nature to call someone out two times in a row. I think he was looking for a reason not to call out Sammy.
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May 27, 2012 at
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laudarevsonhunt you must be new to the sport! Kinser,Swindell and Wolfgang the big 3 that made the outlaws what they are!!!!!! As far as Brad Doty he is the BEST thing for sprintcar racing on tv ... It was great too hear Ralph back now if we could only bring back Katie Hauss from TNN we would have another big 3!
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The thing is if this would have happened to Sammy he would have been stomping around and whining like a little b1tch ready to fight the world. I still can't believe he didn't blame it on Goodyear...
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