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fish
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June 11, 2007 at 02:09:04 PM
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This message was edited on June 11, 2007 at 03:07:02 PM by fish
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Posted By: MSPN on June 11 2007 at 08:59:03 AM

Once again more BS from the king of it. That night Kevin made the A from the 4th row, not easy to do at the Grove. Who'd he pass to get there, Lucas Wolfe, Brian Leppo and Mark Smith all touted as FOAW. The kid then went on and won an Outlaw show in Charlotte to become the youngest W of O winner of all-time, not too shabby. When was the last time ANY Posse driver went on the road and one an Outlaw show, let alone a teenager. The FOAW does nothing against the best in the bizness while the real FOAW like Ricky hit the highway to improve their game, wake up.

Fish, your need to spend more time taking better photos than whining in here, grow up. Take It Easy....




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fish
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This message was edited on June 11, 2007 at 03:06:19 PM by fish
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Posted By: MSPN on June 11 2007 at 08:59:03 AM

Once again more BS from the king of it. That night Kevin made the A from the 4th row, not easy to do at the Grove. Who'd he pass to get there, Lucas Wolfe, Brian Leppo and Mark Smith all touted as FOAW. The kid then went on and won an Outlaw show in Charlotte to become the youngest W of O winner of all-time, not too shabby. When was the last time ANY Posse driver went on the road and one an Outlaw show, let alone a teenager. The FOAW does nothing against the best in the bizness while the real FOAW like Ricky hit the highway to improve their game, wake up.

Fish, your need to spend more time taking better photos than whining in here, grow up. Take It Easy....




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fish
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June 11, 2007 at 03:04:46 PM
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Posted By: MSPN on June 11 2007 at 08:59:03 AM

Once again more BS from the king of it. That night Kevin made the A from the 4th row, not easy to do at the Grove. Who'd he pass to get there, Lucas Wolfe, Brian Leppo and Mark Smith all touted as FOAW. The kid then went on and won an Outlaw show in Charlotte to become the youngest W of O winner of all-time, not too shabby. When was the last time ANY Posse driver went on the road and one an Outlaw show, let alone a teenager. The FOAW does nothing against the best in the bizness while the real FOAW like Ricky hit the highway to improve their game, wake up.

Fish, your need to spend more time taking better photos than whining in here, grow up. Take It Easy....



MSPN: Congratulations, you are the greatest of all time. Those of us that might respect what you have done tend to lose that respect over time by reading some of your posts. Knowledgeable you are and many times you are correct, but your feuds have clouded the things you type here.

Jim Fisher

www.fscpictorial.com


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Bear
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This message was edited on June 12, 2007 at 07:45:00 AM by Bear

I bought a ticket to the Indy 500 and sat next victory lane where I was surrounded by throngs of onlookers and I took pics of Sam Hornish wiht my camera phone.  I've sold tens of thousands of them on EBay.Does that count?? Can I now be a member of this super special club. 



gasitup71
June 11, 2007 at 04:18:32 PM
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...since when do you have to be "validated" to have an opinion on sprint car racing...

...holy shit !...here I thought NASCRAP people took themselves a little too seriously...



BigRightRear
June 11, 2007 at 06:56:29 PM
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here is the whole story from the "night before" the now famous Nelligan meltdown in the VIP section, notice that the author of the BRR Report credited the 1 car with the "Pass of the Night".

Heat 4 Grid: 8 Laps / Top 5 Transfer / Top 12 TT Transfer to Dash
Row 1: 15 Schatz / 5w Wolfe
Row 2: 71 Leppo / U1 Layton
Row 3: 24 McCarl (6 Time Kville Champ) / 1z Smith
Row 4: 30 The Hammer / 1 K. Swindell
Row 5: 17b Freeland / 49 Walters
Row 6: 28 Paulus /  
Heat 4 Finish: 15, U1, 1, 5w, 30 / 28, 1z, 71, 24 (6 Time Kville Champ), 49, 17b
Heat 4 Action:

Schatz takes the early lead as McCarl drops to 7th. Kevin Swindell on the extreme bottom, prying his way forward. Lap 3: The Hammer gets sideways ahead of the 24 in turn 4 but continues, Smith spins to avoid and collects the 17b, who exits on the hook. Smith returns. Restart order: 15, U1, 5w, 1, 71 / 24, 30, 28, 49, 1z. Lap 4: The Hammer moves into 4th as Leppo fades trying to run No Man's Land on the top. McCarl receives the POSSE Red Carpet Ride, backwards, DNT.

 

You might NOTICE that Kevin also passed McCarl to "get there"...no mention in the Mulligan version of the night of the A Main action....where as Coachbob would say "ole Rocky was AWOL", just ahead of the 83

Notice that provisionals were taken by two of the best young guns on the tour. Schatz goes on to run 15th behind MANY of the FOAW.

there is a certain irnoy to what the foggy memory choses not to retain...

 

A Main Grid: 25 Laps / Top 4 Lock-In for Friday
Row 1: 7 Dollansky / 6 Shaffer
Row 2: 69k Kreitz / 25 Dewease
Row 3: U1 Layton / 22 Johnson
Row 4: 11 Kinser / 11h McMahan
Row 5: 88h Rahmer / 20 Lostkoski
Row 6: 5 Sammy / 5w Wolfe
Row 7: 77 Hodnett / 1z Smith
Row 8: 14 Meyers / 71 Leppo
Row 9: 15 Schatz / 35a Cole
Row 10: 32 Weibley / 2 Saldana
Row 11: 21 Pittman (PM) / 30 The Hammer
Row 12: 7s Sides / 1 K. Swindell
Provisionals: 11k Kraig / 11e Erdley
Provisionals: 83 Kaeding / 7k Kauffman
A-Main Finish: 7, 25, 20, 11 / 69k, 5, 88h, 1z, 21, U1, 14, 71, 77, 30, 15, 11h, 5w, 22, 11e, 2, 11k, 35a, 32, 7k, 6, 1, 83
A-Main Action: Initial Start: Dollansky takes the lead and checks out. Lap 4: Lance takes 2nd from Shaffer. Lap 8: Traffic, 7, 25, 6, 69k, 20, 11, U1, 88h, 5, 1z, 71. Lap 11: Lostkoski laytonizes Kreitz into the bottom wall approaching turn 3. 83 is blowing smoke and oil covers the left side of the engine. Lap 16: Sammy passes Layton for 6th. Running Order: 7, 25, 6, 20, 69k, 11, 5, U1, 88h, 1z, 71. Shaffer is smoking badly but still running fast and holding third. Lap 19: Sammy passes Kinser as the battle wages for the Lock-In Spots. Lap 20: 7, 25, 6, 20, 5, 69k, 11, 1z, 88h, U1, 71. Lap 24: Kinser passes Kreitz and the flags as the 6 car blows and slows in turn 1, done for the night. The 83 retires under caution.
Restart Order, Green-White-Checkers: 7, (11e, 2), 25, (11k, 35, 1, 32, 7k), 20, 5, 11, 69k, 1z, 88h, U1, 21, 71, 14, 77, 15, 30, (7s), 11h, 5w, 22
Return to Action: Kevin stops under caution, pushed to pits, out of fuel? Kinser and Kreitz take to the bottom and move by Sammy in the challenge for 4th.
Theme: Miserable ass track conditions after a run of perfect tracks in recent months. Good POSSE Performance, spitting the Top 10 and field. Looks like 6 Outlaws were parked for the A Main! Not on par with 4 local cars making the A as in parts unknown, but we have to start somewhere with our comparisons.
Prime Mover: Pittman: Finished 9th from 21st.
Pass of the Night: Kevin Swindell in Heat 4. Blowing by the 30, 24, 71, 5w.
Crowd Pleasing Moment : Paulus tags the rear of Heat 4 after missing TT due to the connection to the turn 3 fence. Made his way thru the field and pulled even with the Hammer and RODE A FULL SPEED WHEELIE TO THE FLAGS…missing the transfer by a photo finish, and spinning on the bottom after he put'er down. Simply amazing, and clearly the Crowd Pleasing Moment for the traveling Mechanicsburg native.
FOAW Spotlight : Leppo DENIED McCarl (6 Time Kville Champion) an A Main start, just one night after holding off Rahmer for 33 straight laps at the Lincoln. Lucas Wolfe struggled on dismal track conditions. Erdley hits Shaffer as he was moving forward in the heats. Mark Smith spun in his heat after the Hammer got sideways in front of him.
Attrition: TT: Shepard NT, Paulus hard in the wall in turn 3, back up car for 1 lap.
Hard Luck Award: The BHG Hard Luck Award tonight went to Young who flipped twice. The BRR Hard Luck Award goes to Paulus who wrecks in TT, brings out the back up and nearly transfers after the best wheelie of all time, ALL THE WAY TO THE FLAGS…AT SPEED.
WTF: Track Conditions: Pathetic. Stevie Smith and Sides nearly collide on the backstretch as BOTH cars are pushed off for TTs, Sides from the FS and Smith from the BS.
Track Note: Back to CLEARING the scoreboard after the events…I guess the advertising is not selling as planned.
Evaluation of the Racing Product: Heats: C-, A-Main: C+ ; Dismal Track Conditions = Dismal Racing Product.
Fast: Hodnett
Half Fast: Hodnett
The Beat Goes On: Once again POSSE has more cars in the Top 10 than parts unknown transfer to the A.
Missing: Nouse, Stambaugh, Coldren, Knopp, Kluge.
Mulligan Moment: 12 No TT: packs it up before dark. 24 DNQ. A good businessman would have used this opportunity to do a product demonstration of a TREE STAND on a backstretch lighting pole and gain a better vantage point for "viewing" the A main to boot.
Travel Advisory: You made the tow, why didn't you run the A?
VIP Section Guests: 71fan, Leppo Grandparents, Qman, Skinner, 1080 among others.
* The BRR Report © 2005 remains a "not for profit product" of my personal observations after paying admission without privileged access and should not be confused with official results, rulings, look-alike products, magazine & newspaper articles, 30 second run time videos, 10 second highlight clips or real time cell phone relay of race results which are currently under scrutiny by local promoters with exclusive contracts for analog video services. Any unauthorized use if this report or segment of this report without the expressed permission of the originator is prohibited.
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Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


Andrew S Quinn
June 11, 2007 at 08:57:31 PM
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Amazing how a post about a non wing USAC race even ends up being a Pa Posse vs the world bitch fest...............



Bear
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June 11, 2007 at 09:15:37 PM
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AQ, Did you go east? Sounds like Big D was a great show. Waitin' for sprint week or whats left of it.



Andrew S Quinn
June 12, 2007 at 04:31:41 AM
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Yeah I went east for the USAC races,and rain at Williams Grove too,then made it back in time to go to Kokomo as well.


Big Diamond was OK, but Grandview was better.




DrakPak
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June 12, 2007 at 06:07:32 AM
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G-View was without a doubt the best show.  Clayton is a pleasure to watch, I just wish we got a few more laps out of him at G-View before he got stuffed in the wall.  He spent as much time on 2 and 3 wheels as he did on 4.  Great swing for the USAC boyz and the PA tracks that stepped up and booked them.   The crowds were great, and I heard talk that USAC is looking for 6 dates in PA for 08.............SWEEEEEEEET!!

 

Still lookin' for the stats on total # of photo's sold somewhere/anywhere.  I Googled it to no avail.  Mikey, perhaps you can direct us to the statistical information that you refer to..............otherwise your claims are just like all the rest of your schtick............


"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

BigRightRear
June 12, 2007 at 07:08:07 AM
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independent verification is always the most reliable indicator.

not sure why FISH erased/edited several posts above...they were real funny while they lasted...maybe the MSPN intenet help desk intervened?


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

MSPN
June 12, 2007 at 09:06:56 AM
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Yadda, yadda, yadda, who cares, trust me, I don't. I hit the pillow every night with a clear conscience and nothing but great thoughts of the many years spent in the sport. You clowns are merely speedbumps in an otherwise paved road with no speed limit, man it sure was fun. Take It Easy....




DrakPak
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June 12, 2007 at 09:28:57 AM
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............so there are no stats to back your claim?? Didn't think so.


"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

Bear
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June 12, 2007 at 10:38:55 AM
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AQ,  The POS Van must be back in one piece again?



MSPN
June 12, 2007 at 11:39:08 AM
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Drak, you need to check with my accountant, lol or try to find some taxforms, that'll be a test. Maybe ask some of the shooters what quantity was their top selling enlargement of all-time, seriously, if they have 3 or 4 in the multi thousands then get back to me. Heck, if any of 'em even sold what I kept in my van as inventory I'll be impressed. You need to do this for your own good, this bothers you a lot since you've brought it up so often. I eagerly await your 'honest' reply, lol. Hurry now, Take It Easy.....




BigRightRear
June 12, 2007 at 12:07:59 PM
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searching for a tax return? sounds like evasion to me...


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

DrakPak
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June 12, 2007 at 03:27:18 PM
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This message was edited on June 12, 2007 at 05:14:29 PM by DrakPak

I only question you on this and bring it up when you do Mikey...............take notice.

What honestly bothers me, as well as countless others, is your appetite for quoting statistics to validate your claims, and then having nothing to back up this fantasy that you keep spouting. Physician, heal thyself!!! The fool who makes the claim has to prove it.............I won't be questioning any other photog's, Lord knows there's only one arrogant enough to make this claim.........just you Mikey. A simple statistic or proof of your claims as a legendary photog retailer is all I am asking for. Where do they keep such records Mikey?? How do you come about to make this claim?? Did you keep track of every other photog in the continental US, or is it just another story from your years on the road that no one ever called you on cuz they just wanted you to STFU?? I will not persue your accountant Mikey...........we both know that's a crock. Just bring some sort of proof to the table to back up your claim.........that's all I ask. Put up or STFU.wink

I guess we all know by now that you won't STFU, but without the proof or some kind of validation........it's all lies and unfounded drivel Mikey. Take it easy now......


"The Outlaws have people out here that don’t know 
anything about racing. I don’t understand how they 
come up with some of the calls they do. It makes me 
think that they just might be that stupid. It’s 
scary."     -Steve Kinser

BigRightRear
June 12, 2007 at 06:47:16 PM
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lucrative careers seldom end with humpin' beers...


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


Andrew S Quinn
June 12, 2007 at 08:57:11 PM
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This message was edited on June 12, 2007 at 08:58:44 PM by Andrew S Quinn

The PMP van is the main stay these days,although I did have to break out the POS van for a backup ride to Haubstadt a couple weeks ago,after the PMP encountered problems in Lawrenceburg the night before.


I almost took the POS van to Pa. for the USAC races,but it developed an exhaust leak just before heading to Pa. and I had told Eckert he could ride back to Indy with me if he needed to. Even though the POS van is legendary,I think just the looks of it scares most people off from riding in it. Bob Clauson always gets a kick out of seeing it at the tracks though...........



Rogue-9
June 13, 2007 at 12:43:40 AM
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Posted By: DrakPak on June 12 2007 at 06:07:32 AM

G-View was without a doubt the best show.  Clayton is a pleasure to watch, I just wish we got a few more laps out of him at G-View before he got stuffed in the wall.  He spent as much time on 2 and 3 wheels as he did on 4.  Great swing for the USAC boyz and the PA tracks that stepped up and booked them.   The crowds were great, and I heard talk that USAC is looking for 6 dates in PA for 08.............SWEEEEEEEET!!

 

Still lookin' for the stats on total # of photo's sold somewhere/anywhere.  I Googled it to no avail.  Mikey, perhaps you can direct us to the statistical information that you refer to..............otherwise your claims are just like all the rest of your schtick............



Was it? That's the only one I could make it to, so I'm glad to hear it was the good one. Hell, I drove 4 1/2 hours just to see it as I live north of Syracuse. Worth the trip though.





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