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WRG is suppose to allow a driver attend a banquet so he can get up front of everyone and bad mouth the product , not going to happen. Agree or disagree with them stiffing him the money he did make a decision based on a assumption. I believe they should pay him the money but not to hurt any one's feeling Jason Sides does not put butts in the seats.

When TSR and Kahne motorsports appear at non WoO events it sells tickets to WoO events.

Also, do not kid yourselves, if WoO away goes the next group in will require the same no compete clauses. It's good business.

I understand your opinion.

However, I have a couple of Steve Kinser shirts, but I have more than 10 Jason Sides shirts. I listen to dirtvision to see how Jason Sides does. They only have 12 competitors, I just think they could show a little more respect and handle their decisions in a businesslike manner. Talk to the person that has a problem, sit down and discuss the issues.

How do you or they know he will get up and bad mouth them? I think he is more respectful than they have been to him.
First they didn't allow him to pit where he has pitted at least this entire year, then they don't give him a provisional that he has spent a lot of money and time earning this year and then to not allow him to the banquet? If you aren't going to allow him to enter the banquet, then why not tell them ahead of time so they don't spend time in the town, they could have headed on home and not gotten dressed to go to a prestigious event.

When did they start treating him different at the track....the minute he sued. Jason knew that would happen and he has played it great with the social media. He has everyone jumping everytime he gets "disrepected" by the big bad WRG.

You think he would be respectful but you don't know that and neither did WRG. Jason is playing the game and trying to get the court of public opinion on his side. It may work it may not. In the end the courts or lawyers will decide the out come and Jason will be free to race a true outlaw schedule that everyone seems to think is the way to go on this site.

Which WRG employee are you? Because that is the exact attitude they have,ie: Sides is just the little guy,lets walk all over him!

Hang on,I know,this must be Carlton,because that is the exact same crap that constantly spews from his mouth,or maybe its his big mouth minnie me,Carlton Jnr! LMAO

I'm not ready to jump on the Jason Sides "bandwagon!"

We've only heard one side of the story. Getting a bunch of "keyboard commandos" riled up seems counterproductive.

Jason even admitted that he technically did not receive official permission. He assumed that WRG's failure to respond meant, yes, you can race Fargo. Sounds like a piss poor assumption.

I agree, Brian should have called him back, but Jason never received official approval, per his press release.

"so I texted him two more times," seriously... a text message? If Jason wants to play with the big boys, he better start acting a little more professional, sending a text message isn't gonna cut it!

in a court of law a text message is good as gold if you have proof

The only "gold" in this situation is that Brian never said "Yes".

Brian can walk into the court room and say, I never received Jason's text, or he could say I didn't answer/approve.

Jason "assumed" is a very weak argument.

This isn't rocket science; Jason never officially received permission, but he decided to race anyway, and wether we like the WRG or not, Jason made a bad call.

You must not know Jason Sides very well. He has way more class than you are giving him credit for. Don't let the ponytail fool you. He would of went to the banquet and picked up his check and left quitely. Oh, but, they didn't even have a check for him. They decided that they would steal the rest of what he had coming to him. I disagree with you that Sides doesn't put butts in the seats. He has a huge fan following. At Charlotte he had people supporting him that he didn't have before WRG screwed him over. Theres alot to the story, wait for the outcome!

Gawd, imagine that.................a racer actually wanting to do some racing. How gauche. The WRG not letting hime race when there is no WoO race scheduled sure reeks of restraint of trade to me. They let their late model drivers do it all the time. If there is no WoO late model show scheduled, they can race anywhere they want.

Phone records and phone companies will prove the texts got sent, the texts got read, the texts got ignored. The phone call was made, the phone call was accepted, and the phone call wasn't returned as WRGs CEO failed to do! Many things will come out of this! The big boys are the ones that need to be a little more professional. Theres more people on his side than they think! Let the courts decide!

Go Sides/Sides Motorsports get your money!!!!

There are distance and time restirctions for the WoO Late Model Series just like the sprints have!

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At the end of the day, the only thing that matters is that Jason didn't have approval.

It's unfortunate that Brian/WRG failed to respond in a timely manner, but that doesn't justify Jason's trip to Fargo!

He should have avoided Fargo and settled the lack of response issue before he strayed; instead he put himself in a box.

It doesn't matter if Jason is a good guy, or if he has a pony tail, or if a lot of fans are supporting him, or if he just wanted to race, or if the WRG is unpopular.

The only thing that will matter, if this issue goes to court, is that Jason didn't have approval.

All the emotion, opinions, and facebook garbage will be reduced to noise in the back ground!

Of course there is a no compete in their contracts. The phone calls and texts will be a he said she said deal. Its not if the decision was a yes or a no. No response is no response. If it in fact does go to court the biggest factor will be that the #9 and #15 were allowed race. I don't think any judge will agree that WRG can pick and choose who is allowed to race outside the WoO. Either they all are able to race that date or none.

That is the problem though. WRG considers its fans just background noise.

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At the end of this, the only thing that will matter is what the courts, judges, and jury will have to say.

I SUPPORT JASON SIDES FROM DOWN UNDER

I agree, I never said I liked how the WRG is handling the situation.

This issue could easily be resolved minus a law suit, if both parties (WRG included) would be willing to communicate.

Jason has been a staunch supporter of the Outlaws for a number of years; they need to treat him like an asset, instead of a liability!

The whole situation is very, very unfortunate!

Not going to bash those with the opinion that Jason is wrong. That is their right and they have every right too that.

I think one of the things that have people all pissed off is you can let a couple other teams do it and not others. To me that is wrong and not very good business. Also withholding his earnings, no matter how upset you are with an individual is also not very good business either. This could make it to where others will take a second look at running with the WoO full-time for fear if they do mess up, they will lose everything.

Not a Jason Sides fan, although I do respect him (and yes I do know him) but Jason is getting the shaft on this deal and that isn't right.

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The main point is, that if a phone call back at the time of the question as to "could he race the race" would of occurred and a phone call after the discussion of the points position issue, no phone call after the WRG person said he would call. This is per Jason Sides and not me. I will voice my opinion on the internet because I feel strongly on this issue and if the WRG does not realize that Jason has people behind him, they will continue to treat the small teams with the same disrespect.

I have a username because it was set up like that 10 years ago.

My name is Gina Doogs and I believe in justice.

I was a car owner and totally understand the expense of traveling and racing. There is a reason a team races for points, the money and the prestige of the accomplishment. Car owners, teams and drivers put their hearts and souls into racing and do not deserve to be ignored when an issue arrises.