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I think this meeting is a great idea. However with what is talked about may change one group or association (track). With the 305's running different rules like Ohio, Burlington (34raceway), Knoxville, and so on there will never be the same rules at them tracks. With whatever rules are made or changed I hope it brings more cars to all the 305 tracks. Also whats the point to limit what you can spend????? (Remember racing cost money, cuz you sure as hell aint gunna make any). Also guys like Brady Bacon, Kevin Swindell and many other YOUNG drivers are winning races because they have the BEST of equipment. (Makes the driving alot easier). Running a racesaver motor is the same as running a late model.......who wants to watch a race like that. So the bottom line is there will always be a faster car than someone else and that person is just gunna complain that some rules need to be changed. Hope the meeting goes good but since we are not a sanctioned group people are gunna build a car to run at a track that they choose.

What is the "plan" to limit spending by the racers? An engine rule isn't going to limit the cost of racing. People are going to spend money, a LOT of money, on racing. There is no rule that will ever change that. Everyone complains about Knoxville allowing drysumps, but I am 99% certain the 2 motors everyone talks about were not drysump (go to the classifieds and check for yourself). Weight isn't going to stop anything, I see cars all the time with all Ti bolts and chunks of lead strapped on. Don't get me wrong, I am all for saving money, but don't think making a bunch of rules is going to make it cheaper. People are going to spend money, there is always someone who spends a little more than the next. If they can't find anything else to buy for the car, they will go buy a toter and stacker trailer. Wasn't the spec head and tire ASCS branded supposed to make racing cheaper and more equal? I have delivered a set of $10K ASCS heads, how is that cheaper? I am pretty sure the ASCS RR is the most expensive RR spec tire on the market. All the rules usually make it MORE EXPENSIVE. Just look at ASCS and tell me how the rules are working to make it cheaper........

If you want a spec tire, I can understand that. But it needs to be opened up to allow 1 tire from each manufacturer. Only letting 1 company in on the deal isn't going to make it cheaper, it's a perfect way to get prices inflated because you HAVE to run that exact tire. Tell me what would happen if you allowed 1 tire from each manufacturer, if Hoosier was $30 higher than American Racer and they were an equal size and compound, who would you buy from?

What is the "plan" to limit spending by the racers? An engine rule isn't going to limit the cost of racing. People are going to spend money, a LOT of money, on racing. There is no rule that will ever change that. Everyone complains about Knoxville allowing drysumps, but I am 99% certain the 2 motors everyone talks about were not drysump (go to the classifieds and check for yourself). Weight isn't going to stop anything, I see cars all the time with all Ti bolts and chunks of lead strapped on. Don't get me wrong, I am all for saving money, but don't think making a bunch of rules is going to make it cheaper. People are going to spend money, there is always someone who spends a little more than the next. If they can't find anything else to buy for the car, they will go buy a toter and stacker trailer. Wasn't the spec head and tire ASCS branded supposed to make racing cheaper and more equal? I have delivered a set of $10K ASCS heads, how is that cheaper? I am pretty sure the ASCS RR is the most expensive RR spec tire on the market. All the rules usually make it MORE EXPENSIVE. Just look at ASCS and tell me how the rules are working to make it cheaper........

If you want a spec tire, I can understand that. But it needs to be opened up to allow 1 tire from each manufacturer. Only letting 1 company in on the deal isn't going to make it cheaper, it's a perfect way to get prices inflated because you HAVE to run that exact tire. Tell me what would happen if you allowed 1 tire from each manufacturer, if Hoosier was $30 higher than American Racer and they were an equal size and compound, who would you buy from?

It'd help if you did more calling on the phone to tracks and drivers if you want attendance (or even a PRESS RELEASE).

You don't gain much respect from me (as a fan) when you can't even spell the name of the town you are meeting in correctly (its STORY CITY, IA).

Good luck controlling costs, take a look at IMCA as example, guys are spending $15,000 on motors that are supposed to be claimable for $325, guess what, no one is claiming motors because they are all spending a ton of $$ to build their own and they don't want to be the one that starts the avalanche of motors getting claimed every week.

It'd help if you did more calling on the phone to tracks and drivers if you want attendance (or even a PRESS RELEASE).

You don't gain much respect from me (as a fan) when you can't even spell the name of the town you are meeting in correctly (its STORY CITY, IA).

Good luck controlling costs, take a look at IMCA as example, guys are spending $15,000 on motors that are supposed to be claimable for $325, guess what, no one is claiming motors because they are all spending a ton of $$ to build their own and they don't want to be the one that starts the avalanche of motors getting claimed every week.

The Midwest 305 Sprint car Association is having a meeting to standardize the engine rules for all 305 racing in the Midwest. A representative from each track or club should try and attend this meeting. We believe this standardization of engine rules will make 305 sprint car divisions stronger. Allowing for more interchange of drivers between tracks and stopping the division from heading down the obvious path of cost destruction.