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Doug Bushey
October 02, 2011 at 01:59:57 AM
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VICTORVILLE RACEWAY PARK – October 1, 2011 – FULL RESULTS

OPEN COMPETITION SPRINT CARS

1. Ronnie Gardner 93

2. John Aden 7a

3. Austin Williams 2

4. Cody Williams 44

5. A.J. Bender 12

6. Johnny McCall 44j

7. Ronnie Case 8

8. Logan Williams 3

9. Adam Frith-Smith 62 (DNS, Flipped in Heat)

SPORT MODIFIEDS

1. Mark Nustad 17

2. Jesse Gordon 10

3. Jeff Singer 87x

4. Joe St. Louis 43

5. Dallas Smith 72 (DNF)

6. Ben Bachar 26 (DNF)

Tom Smith 33d (DQ)

J.D. Wilson V8 (DQ)

Jim Snow 49 (DQ)

Vince Porter 7 (DQ)

Andy Moreton 07 (DQ)

STREET STOCKS

1. Joe St. Louis 6

2. Pat Coley 99

3. Kevin James 83

4. Ralph Cooke 78

5. Dave Taylor 36

6. Tony Warner 11

7. Mike Miller 44

8. Tom Smith 33

9. David Reed 58

10. Justin Dunn 14

11. Kevin Irwin 72

Alan Grubel 71x (DNS)

SPORT COMPACTS

1. Robert Gleason 3

2. Aaron Englert 96

3. Ernie Mendez 10

4. Teresa Timmerman 49

5. Travis Wade 32


Doug Bushey

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October 02, 2011 at 02:59:49 AM
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Congrat's to Ronnie Gardner for the Win, and Thanks to John Aden for the
Track Help and a great job for 2nd.....He was on a rail till the yellow, when
Gardner got his car hooked up and took the lead!!!! We also want to Thank the
Sprint Cars that were there for a great Show in front on the Largest Sat. Night
Race Night Attendance of the year!!!!! This was a fun Show that offered
something for everyone...."VRP" will continue to support 410 Open
Shows!!!!!!



Roy Bleckert
October 02, 2011 at 09:40:39 AM
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In the Ventura Fans Thread , It looks like The Promoter called it , less than 10 Sprint Cars & a Bigger Crowd , did anyone take your bet Promoter ?


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October 02, 2011 at 01:53:07 PM
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Hi Roy....Below is the Post you were talking about!!!!! No Takers..(lol)
Unfortunately I did hit it.....Sad that we are at this point with Car
Counts....I ask myself is it because it was not a Guarantee Purse???? But then I
look at our Last Show where we posted $2,500 to Win....and to be Honest with you
if it was not for the Arizona guys.....We would have still been at about 13
Cars....I guess reality is that if it is not a USAC Show...It is what it
is.....About 9-13 Guys that Really Love (or can afford) Weekly Racing....and we
Thank those Teams that were there!!!! Many hard core on this board made fun and
joked about what Promotion we did for this event with the addition of Monster
Trucks and the Dragon and the other classes.......But it did deliver the Biggest
Crowd of the year!!!!! I was hoping for a great turn out of Sprint Cars to show
case to a new fan base....But nope!!! So as a Promoter trying to keep the lights
on, reality is that the days of big weekly 410 Races (other than USAC) are
pretty much DEAD!!!! I saw this in Drag Racing where every Sat. or Sun. you
could go to Irwindale, Lions, Carlsbad, San Fernando and see a great Nitro
filled Show......Now there are 23 National NHRA Events....and No local tracks to
see weekly "Nitro" Drag Races.....That is where 410's are heading....(Pray
Perris stays alive).......The Days of seeing 35 - 410's in weekly Racing action
are GONE!!!!!! (Sad but True). We will continue to support 410 Sprint Cars cause
they are just flat "Bitchin", and I love them!!!!! But expect "Billy the Bomb"
and other Circus Acts at that same Show.......(Just my 2 cents)....Anyone have the answer?????

 

Hi Derp....We are not trying to Schedule against any other
Tracks....Problem is that Ventura has 3 Sprint Car Shows this month, and I have
to run x amount of Dates per my contract or we get fined!!!! The other thing is
that we saw from our 360 only Show, that even with Ventura off, the 360's really
don't show up at Victorville...This is mainly a 410 Show that is open to
360's????....We said from the beginning that we would run 410 Sprint Car Shows
to give who ever wants to Race a place to race. Doesn't matter if it's 20+ cars
(Which we would like) or 10 Cars...(Which is more realistic) at least they have
a place to come play!!!! it's sad, but it is what it is....Unless it is a USAC
Show, you better have support divisions, and Monkey's riding elephants, if you
want any crowd.......I will put money on it right now, before I head out to the
Track....That we have less than 10 Sprint cars tonight, and a Bigger Crowd than
we normally do.....It is almost noon.....Let's see at 11PM if I called
it....Hope I am wrong about car counts.....But bet I'm not!!!!



wallscraper
October 02, 2011 at 02:10:54 PM
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As Southern California’s lone remaining 410 enters the straight for the final time, a dust cloud rises over the mummified corpses of the last big block fans huddled atop the Perris turn four stands. It's on to the big dirt oval in the sky where there are no 360s!


Everything you know is wrong.

turn4rob
October 02, 2011 at 02:50:49 PM
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I'm done,time to learn to fish,anybody out there have any fishin gear for sale and can you teach me where and how to fish.

ROB




racerdon
October 02, 2011 at 04:48:27 PM
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Looks to like sprint car racing at Victorville is a waste of time. Nine cars! Another disaster in the desert. Time to take the Victorville off me schedule until there is a new promoter

 



sprintfan86
October 02, 2011 at 05:24:51 PM
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Oh no racerdon wrong thing to say your gonna catch alot of crap now but ill join you there is just some reason vrp cant pull in a good car count i have no idea is it the purse is it the track i think the track is great myself is it that racers dont like the way things are ran there maybe the racers or teams dont like the promotor i really wish i knew i know in the past i have said $1500 to win isnt enough but i really have no idea why vrp cant get a car count maybe when a big crowd like i guess they had last nite and they see only 9 cars the first time fans think coming back to another sprint car race is a waist because there last time there they only had 9 cars just wish i knew

turn4rob
October 02, 2011 at 05:55:14 PM
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could someone please tell me what a promoter is supposed to do?here we have a promoter who offers a purse he can afford and nobody shows up.there are alot of drivers who can use the track time look what its done for the Williams boys and R.Gardner .

I'm sure the promoter would pay more if he could,but he can't chew up some leaves and shit dollar bills

ROB

 




sprintfan86
October 02, 2011 at 07:19:22 PM
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Whats your opinion rob why cant vrp get a good car count ?

turn4rob
October 02, 2011 at 08:18:45 PM
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Posted By: sprintfan86 on October 02 2011 at 07:19:22 PM
Whats your opinion rob why cant vrp get a good car count ?


I wish I knew the answer.

ROB



sprintfan86
October 02, 2011 at 09:03:15 PM
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Could it be maybe alot of the usac cra regulars have something against vrp because of the misunderstandings. Earlier this year because of vrp backing out of the races they had scheduled maybe there is alot of stuff we just dont know about i know the economy. Sucks and it takes alot of money to run these cars me and harleyman were at speedway races in costa mesa last nite and they had a great crowd just really hard to figure it out


Buzzard-
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October 02, 2011 at 09:27:15 PM
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This message was edited on October 02, 2011 at 09:27:48 PM by Buzzard-

I have to think its money.

Noone has any and to finish out the CRA or other track schedules or even hit the money shows, you have to not tear your stuff up before those shows.

Looking who was at VRP there are some teams I spoke to last week that wanted to go for the seat time but really couldnt afford to run three weeks in a row with Perris last week, VRP this week and Perris next.

I think its that simple at the moment. Everyones broke. Even the support classes are showing some serious attrition.



MikeyT
October 02, 2011 at 09:29:58 PM
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Maybe its just me...But the usac guys have there 2 biggest shows comming up. And yes they are National shows that pay big money. Why would any of the top team risk there equipment at a track that has a reputation of not being very good. I work on one of the best usac teams and have worked on cars at all the victorville shows except last night. To be truthful...i didn't want to run my cars at victorville because of how the track has been the last few races.

 

Mikey T.

 



gkaz
October 02, 2011 at 09:35:48 PM
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Did John Aden do the track prep last night ?




race88
October 02, 2011 at 09:39:34 PM
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Posted By: gkaz on October 02 2011 at 09:35:48 PM

Did John Aden do the track prep last night ?



Thanks to John Aden for the
Track Help and a great job for 2nd.........I'd guess YES



Roy Bleckert
October 02, 2011 at 10:09:54 PM
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Posted By: turn4rob on October 02 2011 at 05:55:14 PM

could someone please tell me what a promoter is supposed to do?here we have a promoter who offers a purse he can afford and nobody shows up.there are alot of drivers who can use the track time look what its done for the Williams boys and R.Gardner .

I'm sure the promoter would pay more if he could,but he can't chew up some leaves and shit dollar bills

ROB

 



Promoter is hitting on it , You need more Big Events that attract attn. in today's market . We need to get back to Running Sprint Cars & Midgets & not this alphabet soup of 43 gazzillion classes of Sprint Cars

You need rivalries like NARC vs CRA vs ARA Sills Gurney vs Thompson Oskie vs Shuman McSpadden & promote the Clash of these drivers of EPIC proportions etc , may be corny but I see very little controversy,attitude ,swagger being promoted amongst drivers & teams every one seems to be in the Rodney King mode can't wee all get along LOLLLLLL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you need some guys in black hats to contrast the dudes in white hats , I bet Steve understands this , I will be interested in his thoughts on this ?

If we adjust our thinking a little you can build a brand new Midget for 15,000 & be as fast as the cars today but not with the current specs today , a Midget at 15 K brand new puts it in the realm of the avg Jane & Joe toting a lunch pail to work , more cars = more fans

Sprint Cars need to be racing under 1 set of rules whether it is a local show or a traveling series that way if a local show has a special event the travelers can show up against the locals something you can promote

On a local show take VRP if Aden & Steve had a deal were the kids can run 1/4 midgets ,mini dwarfs , sprint 500, 600 micros etc. from 2-6 on Adens track, Mom & Dad can race their Big cars @ VRP from 6:30-10 now you have a deal were families can spend 1 day racing instead of having to make a choice between kids or adults racing , helps make a local show work

Example on a local deal, VRP could headline 6 sprint shows , 5 Midget shows , 8 Stock Car shows & then have 3-5 Special events that you bring in the Heavy Hitters vs the Locals , again you have a Big deal to promote

It's going to take cooperation between Promoters, Car Owners, Sanctions, Track Owners/Fairgrounds , something that is easy to type on the puter ..... but very difficult to accomplish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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race88
October 02, 2011 at 11:05:37 PM
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'If we adjust our thinking a little you can build a brand new Midget for 15,000 & be as fast as the cars today '.....................Show me how....midget roller alone cost upwards of $17000 without motor




boggsdude
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October 02, 2011 at 11:10:28 PM
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What did I miss, why can't USAC/CRA schedule races at Victorville?

Roy Bleckert
October 02, 2011 at 11:17:48 PM
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'If we adjust our thinking a little you can build a brand new Midget for 15,000 & be as fast as the cars today '.....................Show me how....midget roller alone cost upwards of $17000 without motor



Short Story , Sidewinder Roller 10k , Motorcycle Engine 5k ... Thar You Go


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