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leadfoot23
August 14, 2011 at 03:58:36 AM
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So did anyone else notice this...Only 2 regular WoO drivers in the top 10, 1 mostly WoO driver, 1 substitute WoO, 1 ASCS, 2 Posse, 1 All Star and 2 Knoxville regulars.

Schatz - WoO

Stewart - ASCS

Swindell - mostly WoO

Shaffer - All Stars

Pittman - Posse

Dobmeier - Knoxville regular

Brown - Knoxville regular, sort of this year

Sweet - Filling in for Saldana in a WoO car

Dewease - Posse

Dollansky - WoO




blitzman
August 14, 2011 at 08:49:43 AM
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Thats what makes the Nationals what it is.. You dont have to be a big outfit team to make a strong run & make some nice money...


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sprintman11
August 14, 2011 at 10:18:38 AM
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It just shows how close the cars are these days. If you are off just alittle bit it shows big time! Everything comes off store shelves anymore, and everyone has all the same stuff.




madsen
August 14, 2011 at 10:47:12 AM
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Also, they are all Outlaw drivers, Dobmeier and Brown are the only two who were never regular WoO drivers at one time and Dobmeier did fill in for Tatnell a few races during a WoO season. Believe me, they all wish they were regular WoO drivers.


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oswald
August 14, 2011 at 12:11:59 PM
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Posted By: madsen on August 14 2011 at 10:47:12 AM

Also, they are all Outlaw drivers, Dobmeier and Brown are the only two who were never regular WoO drivers at one time and Dobmeier did fill in for Tatnell a few races during a WoO season. Believe me, they all wish they were regular WoO drivers.



Brown was a regular on the WoO tour several years ago. Casey's #6. Too soon, he wasn't ready.

racerman123
August 14, 2011 at 12:18:16 PM
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Does anybody know the pay off to make the A main last night???


CarWash Mike
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August 14, 2011 at 12:40:10 PM
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Posted By: oswald on August 14 2011 at 12:11:59 PM
Brown was a regular on the WoO tour several years ago. Casey's #6. Too soon, he wasn't ready.


I think Brown was ready for a decent rookie run in the 6 car. Getting hurt when the axle broke while he was leading at Manzanita sure didn't help him that year.

MSPN
August 14, 2011 at 12:45:18 PM
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18 Current and ex W of O drivers, 4 Knoxville regulars and 2 all-time Posse greats, sorry to burst your bubble but that's the real deal....



jmartz11
August 14, 2011 at 12:49:42 PM
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Purse Breakdown for the 2011 51st Goodyear Knoxville Nationals
Saturday:
Best Appearing Crew: 1. $1,000 2. $500 3. $300
Total Purse for Best Appearing Crew: $1,800
E Feature: 1. $600.00 2. $600.00 3. $800.00 4. $775.00 5. $750.00
6. $725.00 7. $700.00 8. $675.00 9. $650.00 10. $625.00
11. $600.00 12. $575.00 13. $550.00 14. $475.00 15. $450.00
16. $425.00 17. $400.00 18. $375.00 19. $350.00 20. $325.00
21. $300.00 22. $300.00
E Feature Total Purse: $12,025
D Feature: 1. $800.00 2. $800.00 3. $1,200.00 4. $1,100.00
5. $1,000.00 6. $950.00 7. $900.00 8. $850.00 9. $825.00
10. $800.00 11. $775.00 12. $750.00 13. $725.00 14. $700.00
15. $675.00 16. $650.00 17. $625.00 18. $600.00 19. $575.00
20. $550.00 21. $525.00 22. $500.00
D Feature Total Purse: $16,875
C Feature: 1. $1,000.00 2. $1,000.00 3. $2,000.00 4. $1,750.00
5. $1,500.00 6. $1,400.00 7. $1,300.00 8. $1,250.00 9. $1,225.00
10. $1,200.00 11. $1,175.00 12. $1,150.00 13. $1,125.00 14. $1,100.00 15. $1,050.00 16. $1,000.00 17. $950.00 18. $900.00 19. $850.00 20. $825.00 21. $800.00 22. $800.00
C Feature Total Purse: $25,350
B Feature: 1. $1,000.00 2. $1,000.00 3. $1,000.00 4. $1,000.00
5. $8,000.00 6. $7,000.00 7. $6,000.00 8. $5,000.00 9. $4,000.00
10. $3,500.00 11. $3,000.00 12. $2,500.00 13. $2,250.00
14. $2,000.00 15. $1,750.00 16. $1,500.00 17. $1,450.00
18. $1,400.00 19. $1,350.00 20. $1,300.00 21. $1,250.00
22. $1,200.00 23. $1,150.00 24. $1,100.00
B Feature Total Purse: $60,700
A Feature: 1. $150,000.00 2. $75,000.00 3. $37,500.00
4. $26,000.00 5. $21,000.00 6. $20,000.00 7. $19,000.00
8. $18,000.00 9. $17,000.00 10. $16,000.00 11. $15,000.00
12. $14,000.00 13. $13,000.00 14. $12,000.00 15. $11,000.00
16. $10,000.00 17. $10,000.00 18. $10,000.00 19. $10,000.00
20. $10,000.00 21. $10,000.00 22. $10,000.00 23. $9,500.00
24. $9,500.00
Total A Feature Purse: $553,500
Total Saturday Purse: $670,250
Total 4-day Purse: $1,000,435

Long Live  20 Time  World Of Outlaws Champion Steve 
Kinser #11 


dsc1600
August 14, 2011 at 04:18:05 PM
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Sammy is 90 percent WoO, he's counted as an Outlaw. 4 Outlaw cars in top 10 and for the 21st time in the last 22 Nationals, an Outlaw won. 21 of 22!

cubicdollars
August 14, 2011 at 06:15:32 PM
Joined: 02/27/2005
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Posted By: leadfoot23 on August 14 2011 at 03:58:36 AM

So did anyone else notice this...Only 2 regular WoO drivers in the top 10, 1 mostly WoO driver, 1 substitute WoO, 1 ASCS, 2 Posse, 1 All Star and 2 Knoxville regulars.

Schatz - WoO

Stewart - ASCS

Swindell - mostly WoO

Shaffer - All Stars

Pittman - Posse

Dobmeier - Knoxville regular

Brown - Knoxville regular, sort of this year

Sweet - Filling in for Saldana in a WoO car

Dewease - Posse

Dollansky - WoO



Outlaws are overrated anymore. They race half as many races as they used to and they don't run against a lot of competition anymore because 410 racing has died off around most of the country. There are more Outlaw caliber race cars in Central PA than on the Outlaw tour. Take away the NASCAR money/influence and they would really be in dire straights.


 

 

 

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msu12
August 14, 2011 at 10:40:22 PM
Joined: 07/31/2005
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Posted By: cubicdollars on August 14 2011 at 06:15:32 PM

Outlaws are overrated anymore. They race half as many races as they used to and they don't run against a lot of competition anymore because 410 racing has died off around most of the country. There are more Outlaw caliber race cars in Central PA than on the Outlaw tour. Take away the NASCAR money/influence and they would really be in dire straights.



Just like before the NASCAR money/influence right? More Outlaw caliber race cars in Central PA than on the Outlaw tour yet the WoO still puts more in the top 5 and top 10 on a regular basis when they visit.... interesting opinion.




MSPN
August 15, 2011 at 10:43:18 AM
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Outlaw calibre cars in PA, huh? Over the years they can hardly ever put a car in the top 10 at the Nationals, took about not having a clue, sheesh....



Dirthawk
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August 15, 2011 at 10:53:49 AM
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But in recent years, Stevie Smith finished 3rd in '09, Stevie Smith and Greg Hodnett both had top 10's in '10 and Daryn Pittman and Lance Dewease both had top 10's in '11.



MSPN
August 15, 2011 at 11:19:13 AM
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Stevie left Posse land to drive for Al Hamilton about 2 decades ago and has been in OK for years but he is in a Posse car, I'll give you that. Heck, Sean Michael had back to back good runs about a decade ago 10th and 12 methinks, always liked him and is brother. Pittman is in a Posse car but is also an Okie just like Tyler is a CA surf dude. As for Greg, I sure wish there were enough decent Outlaw rides to see him back on the tour and in a GOOD car capable of winning regularly because he is good enough to do it. He would represent a company so well, he is NASCAR smooth, smart and impressive enough to do all the things a sponsor would love, quality guy......




BigRightRear
August 15, 2011 at 11:23:53 AM
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Posted By: MSPN on August 15 2011 at 10:43:18 AM

Outlaw calibre cars in PA, huh? Over the years they can hardly ever put a car in the top 10 at the Nationals, took about not having a clue, sheesh....



If I am reading these results correctly on Kville's website - McCarl has (5) top 10 finishes listed in his career...not bad compared to others who run there weakly...

McCarl, Terry, Des Moines, IA (17) – 1987, 5m, 12 (12)
..Pleasanton, CA – 1992, 88, 16 (19)
..Altoona, IA – 1993, 27, 24 (6)
..Pleasant Hill, IA – 1994, 5, 8 (6)
- 1995, 24, 11 (5)
- 1996, 51, 11 (8)
- 1997, 8h, 16 (19)
..Altoona, IA - 1999, 5, 24 (23)
- 2001, 24, 5 (4)
- 2003, 24, 13 (15)
- 2004, 24, 5 (1)
- 2005, 24, 18 (18)
- 2006, 24, 19 (23)
- 2007, 24, 3 (6)
- 2008, 24, 8 (23)
- 2009, 24, 17 (15)
- 2011, 55, 15 (14)

how many of these one track wonders will be on hand for the Grove Open? 50k on the line and the corn should already be husked...


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
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weather." Van May

MSPN
August 15, 2011 at 12:31:29 PM
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So Terry has made the A-Main 17 times, (most of them as the car owner to boot) is what you are telling me and in just a few more years than Lance and Freddie have made it 12 times between them, Yikes!! As per usual the stuff you give me is more beneficial to my argument, keep up the good work, thank you!



BigRightRear
August 15, 2011 at 03:50:50 PM
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and how many times have Rahmer and Lance missed the Grove Open A Main?

you never know where I am going with it until the saw blade hits your gizzard...

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


jackhole22
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August 15, 2011 at 04:03:46 PM
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BRR, that Knoxville history page comes in handy. I am not going ot look it up right now but I think Terry is in the top 5 for most A main starts. I am not a Terry fan but I give tons of respect to the guy, for having a dream to be a race car driver, and has been going after it at all costs. Some might say it is a bad father but had Austin kept it on all 4's I wouldn't have suspected dad was going to give son an inch. heck on the start Terry was already half jumped around Austin then backed off a little to not be black flagged. I don't call it bad father I call it dad reminding son you need to race to earn your position.

 


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sprintfanatic
August 15, 2011 at 04:09:54 PM
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"As for Greg", he is from Memphis, Tennessee. Another Possee adoptee. wink





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