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June 04, 2011 at
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It rained for about an hour and the sun was back out by 4:30 however I'm hearing USAC pulled the plug. Very Pathetic! If Port pulled the plug, the new management team lost a lot of respect.
You can keep your USAC talent & skill in Indiana if they're responsible for the cancellation.
We don't have this issue when the Outlaws are in town, at least they want to race!
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June 04, 2011 at
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Wow, that is pretty early. Rumor has it USAC made the call, but who knows if that's true.
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June 04, 2011 at
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Glad I packed it in and drove back to go to Lincoln Park Speedway tonight instead. It was a long drive,but worth it! We are very fortunate here in Indiana to be able to go watch good traditional sprint car racing
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June 05, 2011 at
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USAC packed it in? They should have,I heard them complaining about attendance,well lax promoting by them is the reason,I think over the years of going to USAC shows, their midgets give you a better show and bang for the buck,the sprinters are quite high in their ticket prices for what you get and if you don't get to the top three you as an owner will lose money.I don't think they need to return to the East for about ten years,we got better racing with 600's at Lincoln.So,boo hoo USAC stay in the Hoosier Land and run your bull rings and keep feeding them corn huskers your kool-aid.JMO
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June 05, 2011 at
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on June 05 2011 at 06:25:36 AM
USAC packed it in? They should have,I heard them complaining about attendance,well lax promoting by them is the reason,I think over the years of going to USAC shows, their midgets give you a better show and bang for the buck,the sprinters are quite high in their ticket prices for what you get and if you don't get to the top three you as an owner will lose money.I don't think they need to return to the East for about ten years,we got better racing with 600's at Lincoln.So,boo hoo USAC stay in the Hoosier Land and run your bull rings and keep feeding them corn huskers your kool-aid.JMO
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I disagree, for the third year in a row, I really enjoyed seeing the USAC guys come east at both Grandview and New Egypt. The shows at Grandview have been outstanding, wheel to wheel action, probably what the Hoosier fans get to see every week. USAC kept their end of the deal, bringing over 20 cars for this year's tour. I have no idea whether it was Port Royal or USAC who cancelled the show last night ( I'm leaning toward Port Royal) but hope they continue the Eastern Storm tour for years to come. On a side note, I saw Lincoln Speedway did everything in their power to get their show in last night( 3 rain delays) and people want to know why the get great crowds each week and Port Royal doesn't..................Hmmmmmm.
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June 05, 2011 at
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on June 05 2011 at 06:25:36 AM
USAC packed it in? They should have,I heard them complaining about attendance,well lax promoting by them is the reason,I think over the years of going to USAC shows, their midgets give you a better show and bang for the buck,the sprinters are quite high in their ticket prices for what you get and if you don't get to the top three you as an owner will lose money.I don't think they need to return to the East for about ten years,we got better racing with 600's at Lincoln.So,boo hoo USAC stay in the Hoosier Land and run your bull rings and keep feeding them corn huskers your kool-aid.JMO
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Where did you get the info that USAC packed it in ?. Will agree they could do better promoting when they are in a different area. Will disagree about ticket prices last two times i seen the WOO in Florida general admission tickets was $38.00 a ticket and i can go to any Indiana sprint week show for $20.00 a ticket. and see a great race not a high speed follow the leader parade. Have you ever owned a car then you should know not too many car owners will show a profit .Come on out to Indiana sprint week when you want to see some REAL racing. JMO
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June 05, 2011 at
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on June 05 2011 at 06:25:36 AM
USAC packed it in? They should have,I heard them complaining about attendance,well lax promoting by them is the reason,I think over the years of going to USAC shows, their midgets give you a better show and bang for the buck,the sprinters are quite high in their ticket prices for what you get and if you don't get to the top three you as an owner will lose money.I don't think they need to return to the East for about ten years,we got better racing with 600's at Lincoln.So,boo hoo USAC stay in the Hoosier Land and run your bull rings and keep feeding them corn huskers your kool-aid.JMO
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I wouldn't want to go back out to PA/NJ and race again if I were USAC. The people and track staffs are rude, especially at New Egpyt, and the tracks are garbage. Does anyone out east know what a water truck is?? Only thing they do out there is run the sheeps foot. Port Royal probably cancelled because they were afraid there wouldn't be dust flying in hot laps. The only track out there that is even decent and you can actually race on is Grandview!! If you want to see a real track I suggest you make a trip to Kokomo.
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June 05, 2011 at
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Ticket prices for the Outlaws in Florida 38 dollars,wow,I thought we were talking about USAC,and if you read what I said about packing it in ,it was followed by a question mark,it really doesn't matter does it,they wanted to go anyway,,I am talking about profit just to cover the expenses for ONE Race,not the Whole season and when you pay 38 dollars to see the Outlaws you are seeing the best,not some Johnny come lately who we never heard of.You lewlew are the typical Hoosier defending your corn row racing and I can't blame you for that,no thanks about coming to Indiana Speedweek my heart could take it,even if it was free,just wake me up when its over.
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Posted By: dustbowl5 on June 05 2011 at 09:04:51 AM
I wouldn't want to go back out to PA/NJ and race again if I were USAC. The people and track staffs are rude, especially at New Egpyt, and the tracks are garbage. Does anyone out east know what a water truck is?? Only thing they do out there is run the sheeps foot. Port Royal probably cancelled because they were afraid there wouldn't be dust flying in hot laps. The only track out there that is even decent and you can actually race on is Grandview!! If you want to see a real track I suggest you make a trip to Kokomo.
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Kokomo has the best weekly sprintcar racing in the country in my opinion
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June 05, 2011 at
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Posted By: Bet n Housen on June 05 2011 at 09:04:56 AM
Ticket prices for the Outlaws in Florida 38 dollars,wow,I thought we were talking about USAC,and if you read what I said about packing it in ,it was followed by a question mark,it really doesn't matter does it,they wanted to go anyway,,I am talking about profit just to cover the expenses for ONE Race,not the Whole season and when you pay 38 dollars to see the Outlaws you are seeing the best,not some Johnny come lately who we never heard of.You lewlew are the typical Hoosier defending your corn row racing and I can't blame you for that,no thanks about coming to Indiana Speedweek my heart could take it,even if it was free,just wake me up when its over.
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I am a long time fan of ALL sprint cars and wished the WOO would go back to where the promotor decided to run wingless or wings.The last few shows i have seen with wings (knoxville,osky,ocala,east bay ,volusia i could count a pass for the lead on one hand and that includes all heats .It sucked so bad at osky a few yrs back i left during the b-main. Dust bowl is right come to kokomo sometime and see a good race .Go ahead and stay on your little porch ISW is standing room only so they must be doing something right.
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June 05, 2011 at
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We can get into a debate on what's better, winged/non-winged, but I still think you're just as likely to a great winged race as a non-winged race (and yes I've been to Indiana and only Kokomo is a guaranteed great race). Just look at this week, you had an average race (won from the pole) at Lernerville, a great race at Grandview, a terrible race at Lincoln, and what seemed to be (I wasn't there) a good race at New Egypt. The Keystone Cup race at Grandview was an excellent race with almost a last lap pass for the win, and a 14th to 3rd charge.
You mentioned Osky a few years back, I am assuming that was the night it rained and the track became one grooved. That's a bad example. I also can't imagine you seeing a bad race at Knoxville, but I'll take your word for it.
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June 05, 2011 at
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There are a lot of folks here in PA who don't see a lot of wingless racing, I haven't seen that many shows myself. I made the 2 hour drive to Grandview for USAC and I don't regret it, I saw a great show. This was supposed to be one of Ports biggest shows of the year & I hear they had a good many campers on the ground for this show. Why do you cancel & the sun was shining at 4:30? I would like to know who made the call...so blame can be focused fairly. Attendance should not have been an issue. If you're going to gain fans of your series, this was not a good decision. At least East & Ballou seemed appreciative of the fans who made their mid-week shows out here, they made it sound like we had more than they're used to.
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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2011 at 10:27:08 AM
We can get into a debate on what's better, winged/non-winged, but I still think you're just as likely to a great winged race as a non-winged race (and yes I've been to Indiana and only Kokomo is a guaranteed great race). Just look at this week, you had an average race (won from the pole) at Lernerville, a great race at Grandview, a terrible race at Lincoln, and what seemed to be (I wasn't there) a good race at New Egypt. The Keystone Cup race at Grandview was an excellent race with almost a last lap pass for the win, and a 14th to 3rd charge.
You mentioned Osky a few years back, I am assuming that was the night it rained and the track became one grooved. That's a bad example. I also can't imagine you seeing a bad race at Knoxville, but I'll take your word for it.
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Yes the race at Osky was a couple yrs back.Quite a few people left this race early that yr. You are right both wing/non wing lay a few turds once in a while. As i said before i like both but seems like the better races lately with the WoO are when they run the bullrings. Seen them at Kokomo,Bloomington,Pevely and was always a great race. Let us just go racing and enjoy the races wherever you are at.
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Anyone that questions the quality of wingless sprint racing, catch a show at Haubstadt and Kokomo then get back with us.
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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2011 at 10:27:08 AM
We can get into a debate on what's better, winged/non-winged, but I still think you're just as likely to a great winged race as a non-winged race (and yes I've been to Indiana and only Kokomo is a guaranteed great race). Just look at this week, you had an average race (won from the pole) at Lernerville, a great race at Grandview, a terrible race at Lincoln, and what seemed to be (I wasn't there) a good race at New Egypt. The Keystone Cup race at Grandview was an excellent race with almost a last lap pass for the win, and a 14th to 3rd charge.
You mentioned Osky a few years back, I am assuming that was the night it rained and the track became one grooved. That's a bad example. I also can't imagine you seeing a bad race at Knoxville, but I'll take your word for it.
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A 14th to 3rd charge? Ballou passed what was it, 52 cars in 4 nights? And those are at what you called average/terrible races. I wasn't there but from experience the wingless cars are much more consistent in putting on a show where there passing, heck even the time trials are exciting.
Also its hard to compare this Eastern Swing to what you see weekly in PA as one, these guys have raced these tracks very few times, maybe once a year for most, second, these are much bigger tracks not the bullrings you see in Indiana like Bloomington, Putnamville, Kokomo, etc.
Lastly racing is racing, lets just hope they can keep putting people in the seats and that attendance didn't have anything to do with the cancellation or future Eastern swings for USAC
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LewLew,all kidding aside you are so right about good shows and bad shows they are everywhere and some of the best racing I have seen was at Kokomo and Raceway Park and Terre Haute also at Eldora before Tony got his hands on it,I just don't think the Parent USAC really gives a flip about their shows coming East the CRA used to come East and their shows were comparable to USAC now.I think when Indy started getting the foreign drivers and not American dirt racers the Usacers lost a lot of their market and only a few old heads like me remember those days.Pocono used to bring the Indy influence around as did,so long ago,Trenton and Langhorne but those times will never return and the shows that were at Grandview were the best only because of the track condition and population influence that follows that place regardless of what is running.Maybe,USAC will come back ,maybe not , the followers of that type of racing will be there,but as for the old days when the promoters could have wingless or wings,I feel with the WRG and SLS Promotions you won't see any wingless racing the the fans of that are limited by their loyalty to USAC.Just go racing and fill a seat thats what keeps it all alive.
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OK, kind of twisted thinking, but I feel a bit better... was planning to go to New Egyt and/or Port Royal for my first ever nonwing event, but kidney stones got in the way... YOW! I guess misery loves company... still hoping to make it to Knoxville for non wingers in August, God willin'
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A 14th to 3rd charge? Ballou passed what was it, 52 cars in 4 nights? And those are at what you called average/terrible races. I wasn't there but from experience the wingless cars are much more consistent in putting on a show where there passing, heck even the time trials are exciting.
Also its hard to compare this Eastern Swing to what you see weekly in PA as one, these guys have raced these tracks very few times, maybe once a year for most, second, these are much bigger tracks not the bullrings you see in Indiana like Bloomington, Putnamville, Kokomo, etc.
Lastly racing is racing, lets just hope they can keep putting people in the seats and that attendance didn't have anything to do with the cancellation or future Eastern swings for USAC
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The race at Lincoln, where Ballou "passed" 13 of his cars was shite. Period. Most of his "passes" were driving by on the yellow because they wrecked in front of him. The race at Lernerville was start to finish led by the same guy. Grandview was by far the best of the 3 and the only one I would call great.
Also, they only race Grandview once a year, and it's always a great race.
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OK, kind of twisted thinking, but I feel a bit better... was planning to go to New Egyt and/or Port Royal for my first ever nonwing event, but kidney stones got in the way... YOW! I guess misery loves company... still hoping to make it to Knoxville for non wingers in August, God willin'
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Tracks need to start only watering the top. These cushionless tracks with nothing but the trees to lean on suck.
Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?
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