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Sprint3522
April 10, 2011 at 08:02:26 AM
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Please put Haud in the great clips car!That car looked bad at Attica




sprinter25
April 10, 2011 at 08:40:01 AM
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Won't happen; Kasey has a deal with Darrrah, and even kept the ride for him for a year, and found a way to keep Paulie in a WoO car this year.

I'd say that Kasey supports his picks - except Craig Dollansky!


Chuck.....

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April 10, 2011 at 08:56:01 AM
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Posted By: Sprint3522 on April 10 2011 at 08:02:26 AM

Please put Haud in the great clips car!That car looked bad at Attica



It is really ashame that Jac and many other drivers are out of rides , it's because of costs , not enough incentives for a guy to get into the business .MAYBE it's time to put some focus on other areas of the business .




cdn blast
April 10, 2011 at 11:58:31 AM
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Posted By: sprinter25 on April 10 2011 at 08:40:01 AM

Won't happen; Kasey has a deal with Darrrah, and even kept the ride for him for a year, and found a way to keep Paulie in a WoO car this year.

I'd say that Kasey supports his picks - except Craig Dollansky!



I think we're goin to find out how much pull Dennis Roth has in this deal. Now please everyone I'm not bashing Paulie, but come on already. I have nothing against Paulie, he's a nice guy. However, last year he was in the Great clips car all year, with all the support that anyone could ask for ( KKR and TSR have the best of everything, from equipment to personal ) and ALL he could manage was 1 win???? Ya, he was quicktime a bunch of times but thats with no one on the track. Haud had less funding, smaller crew, and STILL had 5 wins, coming oh so close on 3 other occasions ( loosing by a mere wheel ) WHILE being out with a broken hand for 3 weeks. Yes he was something like 5 in points, but with that much funding, you need to be putting up wins in a KKR car, like Joey does. His sponsors demand exposure, wins not showings. He had one of the worst records for positions gained/lost last year and has gotten off to the same start this year ( see IBRACN,com for the stats ).

If Dennis has any pull, he'll get Paulie out of that ride and give it to Haud who deserves it. If Kasey Kane would open his eyes he would see what we all are seeing, Paulie just doesn't have it, and should not be on the WoO's tour.


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petey
April 10, 2011 at 12:11:53 PM
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Don't understand the beef some people have with Dollansky. He's one of the hardest running drivers out there. Maybe he and Woodring didn't click or maybe the 19 car was second rate equipment compared to Saldana. He's done more than McMahan has since Kasey canned him.



WFOB_0
April 10, 2011 at 12:38:47 PM
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Posted By: cdn blast on April 10 2011 at 11:58:31 AM

I think we're goin to find out how much pull Dennis Roth has in this deal. Now please everyone I'm not bashing Paulie, but come on already. I have nothing against Paulie, he's a nice guy. However, last year he was in the Great clips car all year, with all the support that anyone could ask for ( KKR and TSR have the best of everything, from equipment to personal ) and ALL he could manage was 1 win???? Ya, he was quicktime a bunch of times but thats with no one on the track. Haud had less funding, smaller crew, and STILL had 5 wins, coming oh so close on 3 other occasions ( loosing by a mere wheel ) WHILE being out with a broken hand for 3 weeks. Yes he was something like 5 in points, but with that much funding, you need to be putting up wins in a KKR car, like Joey does. His sponsors demand exposure, wins not showings. He had one of the worst records for positions gained/lost last year and has gotten off to the same start this year ( see IBRACN,com for the stats ).

If Dennis has any pull, he'll get Paulie out of that ride and give it to Haud who deserves it. If Kasey Kane would open his eyes he would see what we all are seeing, Paulie just doesn't have it, and should not be on the WoO's tour.



I'll help your case with a stat from last year on Paulie: He won 8 dashes (eight!) and only won 1 feature like you said last year.

The Roth deal with KKR has been a real fishy deal from the get-go, and there is no other way to detail it other than saying that. Paul will be in the car the whole year and will continue to go backwards on a nightly basis (-59 on the year). I just wish Roth would have some pull, but he's just a "sponsor" it sounds like that check has been cashed.

As to who should be in the 83 car is based on strictly everyone's opinion, but there are no denying the eye-opening numbers over the last year of its current driver.

BIG J


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April 10, 2011 at 02:14:05 PM
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...it's the Golden Rule, he who has the gold rules.

Thanks to KKR for bringing four cars to Attica when they all came from California and haven't been home in weeks. Not sure if you were at Attica but Paul's car was a rocket all night.

 

Cody will be just fine, new crew chief, new team, new tracks...I remember saying who is this Schatz guy several years ago. Cody comes from a racing family and grew up in the most competitive sprint car environment in the country (and I live near Attica and Fremont where his crew chief lived until 3 months ago).

 

I'd love to see Haud back on the tour, hopefully he can put something together yet this year.



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April 10, 2011 at 02:14:53 PM
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You people need to go out and get ALOT of money , Buy you a sprint car

and put whom ever you want in the seat ! Then you will not have to WORRY

who is in the 83 car . I'm sure there was 46 other drivers that would of loved

to have finished where Paul did last night .



cdn blast
April 11, 2011 at 04:04:04 PM
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Posted By: Good Buddy on April 10 2011 at 02:14:53 PM

You people need to go out and get ALOT of money , Buy you a sprint car

and put whom ever you want in the seat ! Then you will not have to WORRY

who is in the 83 car . I'm sure there was 46 other drivers that would of loved

to have finished where Paul did last night .



Ya, whoa, another 2nd place finish. Always the bridesmaid...........


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grizzley71n
April 11, 2011 at 04:14:35 PM
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Posted By: cdn blast on April 11 2011 at 04:04:04 PM

Ya, whoa, another 2nd place finish. Always the bridesmaid...........



How many wins do you have?



smoke4ever
April 11, 2011 at 04:53:20 PM
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The last I checked 2nd is a whole lot better then 19th.



WFO81
April 11, 2011 at 05:00:20 PM
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Posted By: cdn blast on April 10 2011 at 11:58:31 AM

I think we're goin to find out how much pull Dennis Roth has in this deal. Now please everyone I'm not bashing Paulie, but come on already. I have nothing against Paulie, he's a nice guy. However, last year he was in the Great clips car all year, with all the support that anyone could ask for ( KKR and TSR have the best of everything, from equipment to personal ) and ALL he could manage was 1 win???? Ya, he was quicktime a bunch of times but thats with no one on the track. Haud had less funding, smaller crew, and STILL had 5 wins, coming oh so close on 3 other occasions ( loosing by a mere wheel ) WHILE being out with a broken hand for 3 weeks. Yes he was something like 5 in points, but with that much funding, you need to be putting up wins in a KKR car, like Joey does. His sponsors demand exposure, wins not showings. He had one of the worst records for positions gained/lost last year and has gotten off to the same start this year ( see IBRACN,com for the stats ).

If Dennis has any pull, he'll get Paulie out of that ride and give it to Haud who deserves it. If Kasey Kane would open his eyes he would see what we all are seeing, Paulie just doesn't have it, and should not be on the WoO's tour.



Love to know what it cost a car owner to have Haud drive a sprint car all year. What he makes and how much it cost for all the eqiupment he rips up?




smoke4ever
April 11, 2011 at 05:07:30 PM
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This thread started out about putting Haud in the 91 and then became a Paul Mcmahon bashing. I am a Paul Mcmahon fan but also love Haud and wish he had a world of outlaw ride. but last year Paul was very impressive all year long yeah he might not of won alot of races but only 4 other drivers had more top 5 and top 10 finishes then he did. So he was very consistently up front. So all you people that say he doens't belong out on the tour should look at results before posting with your heart cause somebody is your favorite driver and you want him in a car.



smoke4ever
April 11, 2011 at 05:27:22 PM
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and as for WFOB_0 comment about -59 positions if you start up front and something happens and you don't finish it looks alot worse then when you start in the back and fall out. My best example I can give is Williams Grove cause that is my home track, last year when they had the big crash with Shatz. He started 2 and crash but finished something like 26th so that is - 24 spots and Fred Rahmer was to start 24th but when they relined up he was like 10th but in the record books it shows he past 23 cars that night.



dirtracefan21
April 11, 2011 at 06:56:08 PM
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Posted By: cdn blast on April 10 2011 at 11:58:31 AM

I think we're goin to find out how much pull Dennis Roth has in this deal. Now please everyone I'm not bashing Paulie, but come on already. I have nothing against Paulie, he's a nice guy. However, last year he was in the Great clips car all year, with all the support that anyone could ask for ( KKR and TSR have the best of everything, from equipment to personal ) and ALL he could manage was 1 win???? Ya, he was quicktime a bunch of times but thats with no one on the track. Haud had less funding, smaller crew, and STILL had 5 wins, coming oh so close on 3 other occasions ( loosing by a mere wheel ) WHILE being out with a broken hand for 3 weeks. Yes he was something like 5 in points, but with that much funding, you need to be putting up wins in a KKR car, like Joey does. His sponsors demand exposure, wins not showings. He had one of the worst records for positions gained/lost last year and has gotten off to the same start this year ( see IBRACN,com for the stats ).

If Dennis has any pull, he'll get Paulie out of that ride and give it to Haud who deserves it. If Kasey Kane would open his eyes he would see what we all are seeing, Paulie just doesn't have it, and should not be on the WoO's tour.



You must be high dude. Where did Paul finish in points last year? Where did Jac finish?? Paul is one of the most consistant drivers on the Outlaws circuit and here you are saying you arent bashing him but really you are. Paul didnt win that much last year but he was ALWAYS in the Top 5. I would rather have a driver drive for me that finished Top 5 with only a win or 2 than win 10 times but have a bunch of DNF's!! Its called a points championship and you win quite a bundle of cash if you DO win the championship and that, my friend, is how you win championships!!


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April 11, 2011 at 08:18:44 PM
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Posted By: dirtracefan21 on April 11 2011 at 06:56:08 PM

You must be high dude. Where did Paul finish in points last year? Where did Jac finish?? Paul is one of the most consistant drivers on the Outlaws circuit and here you are saying you arent bashing him but really you are. Paul didnt win that much last year but he was ALWAYS in the Top 5. I would rather have a driver drive for me that finished Top 5 with only a win or 2 than win 10 times but have a bunch of DNF's!! Its called a points championship and you win quite a bundle of cash if you DO win the championship and that, my friend, is how you win championships!!



Good come back ,,Pauls doing great in that car theres only a few guys out there that win more than a single outlaw race or 2 each year ,,if someone really wants Jac on the outlaw tour gather up bout $500,000 and build a team and get him out there just don't bash kasey or TSR or anyone else cause he's not in there cars ,,jacs as exciting as they come but it comes at a price and kasey and his guys obviously don't see it being beneficial to there team ..

wbh16
April 11, 2011 at 08:33:33 PM
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Posted By: WFO81 on April 11 2011 at 05:00:20 PM

Love to know what it cost a car owner to have Haud drive a sprint car all year. What he makes and how much it cost for all the eqiupment he rips up?



Well said WF081. Jac is exciting to watch drive, but I enjoy it simply because I'm not replacing the torn up cars and equipment.


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April 11, 2011 at 09:31:55 PM
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This message was edited on April 11, 2011 at 09:35:50 PM by jholz2002
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Posted By: L.O.G on April 11 2011 at 08:18:44 PM
Good come back ,,Pauls doing great in that car theres only a few guys out there that win more than a single outlaw race or 2 each year ,,if someone really wants Jac on the outlaw tour gather up bout $500,000 and build a team and get him out there just don't bash kasey or TSR or anyone else cause he's not in there cars ,,jacs as exciting as they come but it comes at a price and kasey and his guys obviously don't see it being beneficial to there team ..


$500,000?? Haha, that might get you to July. About 8 years ago in a conversation with Danny Lasoski he stated to do the whole tour and do it with the best equipment would cost around $1,000,000. He said you could do it for less, but it would be tough to keep running up front with "tired or weaker" equipment. That is why money speaks louder than actual ability.




dirtracefan21
April 11, 2011 at 10:14:35 PM
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Dont get me wrong...I love when The Wild Child is running with the Outlaws but the thing about Jac is he either wins or demolises the car. He has always been one of the exciting drivers in the history of the Outlaws to watch but there is a really good chance on any given night he will wad the thing up trying a "Wild Child" move and I really think thats why he doesnt have a full ride this year. As you all know, he isnt patient. He tries these "wild" moves and it gets him in trouble. Always has, always will. How many rides has he been through his entire career?? I cant count the cars hes driven but I guarantee you the reason he lost the ride was because the car owner couldnt afford the up-keep when Jac tears one to shreds.


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April 11, 2011 at 10:14:45 PM
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The truth is they are both great drivers!

The fact is we need more opportunities, I hope an opportunity becomes available for Jac soon.





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