Forum: HoseHeads Sprint Car General Forum (go)
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There's certainly a lot of debate over the XXX chasis that owners have chosen to purchase. What about what we the fans purchase...how much are we willing to spend for products MADE IN THE USA?

T-shirts etc:

Jerzees - Made in Mexico

Hanes - El Salvador

Gildan - Made in Nicaraugua & Honduras

Port & Company - Made in Haiti

Fruit of the Loom - Made in El Salvador from USA Fabric (Although I've found no driver t-shirt that was "Fruit of the Loom"

I do have 1 Fred Rahmer thermal made by American Apparel that is Made in the USA!

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I was at Cabella's recently and checked out Big Game Treestands. Great supporter of sprintcar racing but they are made in China. Do we stop supporting them because of this? Seems like everything is made overseas. Is there any treestands made in the US?

 In answer to US made treestands ?? ...yes  ... Idaho's Boise/Cascade Corp. marine 3/4" plywood and Georgia made Wolmanized preserved wood 4X4's and 2X6's ...and good old yankee (Iowa) ingenuity (hammer and nails.)

S.H.S.

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and who do they sponsor ?

Everybody knows the world is going to end in 2012. Eat what you want, drink what you want, and buy whatever products you want despite their country of origin. Who cares!

Who cares where a product is made...if it benefits our sport, we should support it!

The world won't end in 1012. Our coutries as we know them now wont be the same in a few years. We have the people from 3rd world countries coming in and wanting their laws, and we're giving in. Just my two cents. America and Canada won't be the same in 10 yrs. Look whats happening in Europe. Its coming here. Nuff said.

Keep It Real

Manufacturing is only one small part of our economy in this country now anyways. There is far more money made in this country off of the shipping, marketing, and selling of these products than will ever be put into our economy by the manufacturing of them. Manufacturing now accounts for such a small percentage of an items value that it is almost non-existent. For example, your $25 tshirt probably cost about 25-50 cents to make. No joke. All of the other costs are in transportation, and markup from the middle man and markup at the vendor's booth. Same with the tree stands from big game. I dont know what a tree stand costs, but it likely cost big game about 10-12% of the selling price of the tree stand to have it manufactured. All of the other money is money that stays in this country and everyone else involved in getting the tree stand from the manufacturer to the buyer distributes this money.

Not saying i like this, I am a machinist. But unfortunately, this is the truth. Our country is going to continue to cut manufacturing.

Everyone whining about "made in the USA" products typed out their complaint on a foreign-built computer made of foreign components while sitting in a chair built in another country while wearing clothes that undoubtedly were made in another country with products from another country.

It's a global economy, folks. The sooner you embrace it... the sooner your blood pressure can resume normal levels. Relax.

You're talking about sharia law, right? I agree, with you there. Right now, at this time, it is not too late to save this country. The irony is that 90% our politicians will not do what is necessary to save it because that wouldn't be "politically correct".

Sorry I got political folks, just wish the West would wake up.

Sprintcrew, your right. Don't let it get to your country or mine(Canada). Your leader isn't helping your cause though, and all the politically correct stuff is getting to be pretty thick. Too many do-gooders.

Where did you get those numbers at WOW

You are right you do not know what a tree stand cost

I think you should check on the impact of manufacturing in this country

I hope sooner or later the US people will vote for someone that will do what needs to be done instead of the person that says the right things.

And delivers a speech from a teleprompter that everyone believes,

Grady

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I supervise a small machine shop with around 40 employees. I have a manufacturing engineer background and have been in the business for 20 years this summer. I deal directly with buyers that purchase our product and either resell or put the product into an assembly and sell the assembly. I see a lot of our products in catalogs. What i am telling you is, if we build a part for them and sell it to them for 10-12 dollars, their catalog price will be somewhere in the neighborhood of 100 dollars. No joke. If the volume of this part is high enough, they will move the job oversees, as we cannot compete with someone who will build it for 3-4 dollars. Oh by the way, if they get them for 3-4 dollars a piece, they will still cost you around 100 dollars. I think the average american consumer is clueless as to what something actually costs to make. The money is in advertising, inventory, transport, inside and outside sales and corporate earnings. The only reason manufacturing leaves this country is, corporate needs to find one more place to save a penny on the dollar. There was still 88-90 dollars to work with when they bought the product from me, but now they have 96-97 dollars. That is why manufacturing leaves this country. Not because it is impossible for profit to be made making it here, but because there is a few more pennies to be made sending it overseas. I have dealt with it first hand for 20 years, so dont question my sources. Those tree stands. Marked up 500% for sure from the actual manufacturing costs. Maybe more.

Oh and by the way, the US people dont pick the president. The people who send our work oversees do. Or they at least pick the choices we have to vote one. Either way, those shirts are going to be made overseas and you wont have someone to choose from to get them made here.

I produce about a half million T-Shirts a year. Blank shirts cost me $1.50 to $2.50 apiece depending on the color. An American artist charges me $600.00 to $900.00 for a design. My American made ink cost me an average of $80.00 per gallon. I print those shirts on American made machines that cost over $130,000.00 each. I employ 25 Americans who pay their taxes and social security. Property taxes on my building are over $1000.00 a WEEK. Until we get our government and unions under control it's not going to get any better. If you have never owned your own business you have no idea how much it costs to operate. I constantly fight with the IRS and other government agencies who are after all the revenue they can get as well. The incentives for the American manufacturer have been pretty well stripped away. Egras, I can tell you are a salaried or hourly employee, Try seeing things though my eyes. Try not taking your salary for 2 or 3 weeks at a time because you have to make payroll for your employees. Try taking out a loan so you can pay your taxes that seem to go up constantly for no reason. Instead of worrying about how much a company is making, I would worry more about how much our government is wasting.

i think you really missed my point. i am on your side. what i am trying to say is that the american consumer is so quick to think the cost of an item is majority manufacturing cost. the point i am trying to make is that the middle man is generally the overwhelming majority of the cost of an item by the time it gets to the consumer. i guarantee you dont make anywhere near the money on one of your t'shirts that the vendors do selling them do you? 130,000 dollar machines? we have 10 machines that cost us over 250,000 and many more that cost more than 100,000 so i feel the pain. i am in charge of turning a profit in our shop. i am responsible for getting the right equipment, hiring, firing and overtime. my pay is based on our performance. I GET IT!! i am very close with my boss and i have my job because i treat his money like my money. I was simply trying to say that consumers need to stop blaming the manufacturers in this country for the high cost of their. what do you make your t'shirts for? i'll bet a tenth of the cost that i could buy one for from your customers. so i wont blame your company or your labor costs for the cost of the t'shirt. you are just a guy getting by paying your bills trying to put a little money in your pocket while someone else buys your shirt for 3.50 and puts it on sale for 30 dollars at the knoxville nationals.

hope business is good for you. good luck