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Topic: TK's chassis after a fllip last night at Tulare... he was OK Email this topic to a friend | Subscribe to this TopicReport this Topic to Moderator
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sprinter25
November 14, 2010 at 08:31:05 AM
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This message was edited on November 14, 2010 at 12:37:21 PM by sprinter25

Note the break in top tube of the cage... this is either a KPC(Steve Kent) or a Maxim, not sure which one... but my point in posting this picture is that ANY chassis can come apart...it's likely that the country of origin of the tubing had nothing to do with the cage failure... TK posted on his Facebook page that he's been released from the hospital and that he's OK.......Photo by Steve Lafond, Tear Off Heaven...


Chuck.....


dad197
November 14, 2010 at 09:42:50 AM
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we have been having trouble with the steel in some of our equipment, 4x3 inch steel tube. with some just have clean breaks others develop a small crack the break. this has just happened in the last 3 to 4 years.



Sprint_99
November 14, 2010 at 12:12:17 PM
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If this had been a XXX everybody here would be screaming about how those cars are unsafe chinese junk, this is just proof that even JUNK can be made right here in the good ol USA




racinround
November 14, 2010 at 12:23:05 PM
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Posted By: dad197 on November 14 2010 at 09:42:50 AM

we have been having trouble with the steel in some of our equipment, 4x3 inch steel tube. with some just have clean breaks others develop a small crack the break. this has just happened in the last 3 to 4 years.



Just wondering if your failures are near a weld, and if you are using material thats certified?


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dad197
November 14, 2010 at 05:50:12 PM
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Posted By: racinround on November 14 2010 at 12:23:05 PM

Just wondering if your failures are near a weld, and if you are using material thats certified?



there has been some break two inches away from a weld ,and three feet ....wish i had pics to show very strange. we never had this problem in 20 years same dealer manufacuter all these years



rachasin
November 14, 2010 at 08:09:05 PM
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As hard as that crash was something. Has to break!


rbjr
November 14, 2010 at 11:24:33 PM
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All I'll say after witnessing that crash last night is that I'm amazed (and impressed) that TK's car held up as well as it did. It was as violent and brutal as anything I've ever seen and I was very surprised and happy when he climbed out. The cage did it's job.



dirtybeer
November 15, 2010 at 01:26:31 AM
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No that cage didn't do it's job,it should have bent,not broke.One more flip and TK could have been a shiskabob.He is very lucky to get out of that car healthy.



maradamx3
November 15, 2010 at 01:22:34 PM
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Yes, the cage DID do its job. Doesn't matter if it breaks or bends, its job is to absorb energy, rather than the driver absorbing the energy. The point is there wasn't one more flip and TK is ok. Unless you can see into the future, you have no idea what would have happened. The car and not the driver is hurt - job well done. Throw the chassis away and get another. Any time a sprintcar crashes, all drivers are lucky to get out unhurt. The danger is inherent.




Wheelied1029
November 15, 2010 at 05:00:49 PM
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It looked more like the top of the roll cage where it broke actually shattered.....When I was at Hanford earlier this year and Steve Kent son crashed , the frame did the looked almost exactly like Tim's Saturday night...I'm just saying



origopnwhlr
November 15, 2010 at 05:57:46 PM
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Wheelied...was TK in a Kent or Maxim?

thanx,

leon


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dirtdevil
November 15, 2010 at 06:07:00 PM
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a charateristic of moly tubing is to shatter ,high carbon count aids this, its ductility is present when forming bends or the radius of roll cages ect, upon impact , a quick ,sharp healthy blow will cause it to sheer, almost cause a shattered type look, if the welds were in tact, the chassis did its job , the driver luckily walked away from a "bad one" , sometimes chassis intergrity is put to a "worse case senerio" type crash,

the chassis is junk,however, the driver is not ,thank god the incident was over before another point of impact was absorbed , Im only assuming without being there personally it did its job as designed. any video of the wreck? I am curious , what did the upper portion of the cage strike?




tailtank
November 15, 2010 at 08:15:03 PM
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Didn't Shane Hmiel's cage break similar to that?


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21wforacer
November 15, 2010 at 09:10:42 PM
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wow guess it could have been a whole lot worse if he was in a chinatown chassis made with tubing from recycled pop cans.


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I aim to hit the target.

origopnwhlr
November 15, 2010 at 09:14:38 PM
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Another "tubeologist" now on the forum! Frown

Cubic III


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sprinter25
November 15, 2010 at 09:36:11 PM
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Video fo the crash here...

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usacracing.com%2Fsprint_index%2F&h=fef7a

 


Chuck.....

Hooka60
November 15, 2010 at 11:15:28 PM
Joined: 09/11/2006
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After seeing that video, any car could've done the same thing. That was a wicked wreck!!



Hawker
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November 15, 2010 at 11:22:59 PM
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Posted By: sprinter25 on November 15 2010 at 09:36:11 PM

Video fo the crash here...

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usacracing.com%2Fsprint_index%2F&h=fef7a

 



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88sprint
November 15, 2010 at 11:31:11 PM
Joined: 08/13/2006
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Cubic, 21, got the material data sheets from this one by chance. Hopefully you didn't misplace them like you did with the XXX papers you got your info from. Maybe this was one of the free cars, TK is surely considered a "good" one, isn't he Cubic? HAHAHA



dirtdevil
November 15, 2010 at 11:42:47 PM
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Posted By: 21wforacer on November 15 2010 at 09:10:42 PM

wow guess it could have been a whole lot worse if he was in a chinatown chassis made with tubing from recycled pop cans.



wow, you really are intellegent? pop cans? like aluminum pop cans? really? maybe ill let the block heads and othe componets slip such as "Winters" but, the moly tubing?, and recycled? are you aware your proubly typing on recycled plastic, alot of materials have been recycled since ,what? 1965?, good pointless post, ill give you that





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