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September 18, 2010 at
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“You think jumping a little snowboard off a couple cliffs is dangerous?” Brown asks.
“Try strapping yourself into one of these (sprint cars) at 140 mph with 23 other wild men. We need to get the kids involved and bring them out here and show them that these guys are crazy just like their heroes from extreme sports.”
I'd rather be in Knoxville.
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September 18, 2010 at
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Indeed! 24 of those monster cars on a bullring or a 1/2 mile, now that's extreme racing. I think there is a series out there in some part of the country called Extreme Sprint Cars Series or something like that. Winged sprint cars if I'm not mistaken.
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September 19, 2010 at
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Yet he won't get on a roller coaster...
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September 19, 2010 at
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wish i had all my roller coaster money back. wonder what them bumper cars coulda done back in the day if they had wings.
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September 19, 2010 at
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on September 18 2010 at 05:05:18 PM
Indeed! 24 of those monster cars on a bullring or a 1/2 mile, now that's extreme racing. I think there is a series out there in some part of the country called Extreme Sprint Cars Series or something like that. Winged sprint cars if I'm not mistaken.
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Yes and they race on Asphalt, and is kind of boring (IMO) Dirt is for racing . Asphalt is to get you to the track.
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September 19, 2010 at
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Todays kids are interested in things they can do. They can buy a dirt bike or skate board snowboard . They cant get a sprint car and participate. They can connect with the dirt bike world by goin to honda and so on . There is not that kind of connection with the sprint car world. Basicly money being the issue . I have been going to knoxville off and on since I was nine or so. The last name of most drivers hasnt changed alot. People need to figure out a way to make sprint car racing more participant freindly.
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September 20, 2010 at
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With price of tickets to get into a WoO show they can't afford the tickets.
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September 20, 2010 at
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Check out English Creek Speedway
We have at lest 9 drivers come from our track to Knoxville.
www.englishcreekspeedway.com
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September 20, 2010 at
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Outlaw sprint karts are kind of getting to be that "connector" between sprint car racing and younger people. They're affordable and fast!!! I race them and I love them! I'm 16 and I have been into sprint car racing since I was 2 years old. It's my life! If people would just get to the track and actually watch sprint car racing in person, most people would love it!!! It is by far the greatest sport ever!!! People just need to go and watch and I feel they would be addicted!
I'd rather be in Knoxville.
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September 21, 2010 at
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My son started racing the Winged outlaw Karts at age 5. He even ran the 1st English Creek nationals.
After 2 years he had enough. He enjoyed the racing part. he hated having to be on the road 4 hours per night to do it. He hated having to wait for Saturday night then possibly getting rained out. He hated the high pressure atmosphere that some of the parents of the next Jeff Gordon created at a local weekly kart race. He hated 10 hours of shop time every week for no more than 12 minutes of track time once a week.
He was willing to sell the kart to build a skateboard halfpipe. We did. He is amazing on a skateboard. He loves it. He can do it whenever he wants, for however long he wants, with as much or as little "go for it" attitude as he feels that day. He can do it by himself or with 15 or more of his best friends. He can compete or just skate for fun. He can turn ANYTHING into something to skate.
As far as the safety/extreme danger factor....I felt safer watching my 5 year old kid run 60MPH in a gokart than watchin him at age 9 huck that skateboard off a set of 8 stairs. Now he's 11 and he flips the board under his feet while flying off that set of 8 stairs. Scares the hell outta me every time but makes my chest swell up big when he lands it.
You are not going to convince the typical teenager that having all the rollcages, firesuits and helmets at 140MPH is more dangerous than backflipping a BMX bike off a ten foot tall ramp. They see racecar drivers crash and walk away all the time. They see X games athletes crash then have to set out for a year with injury surgery and rehab.
But the biggest thing is cost and opportunity to play with the toy. A competitive kart operation will set you back between 6 grand and up to 75 grand if you want the biggest trailer of anyone. A Sprint car deal 10 times that much. A skateboard, top of the line stuff, costs 100 bucks. Top notch BMX bikes go for between 300 and 1500 bucks. Snowboards are under 300 bucks. Even dirtbikes can be had for 500 to 4000 bucks. A kid can work a summer job or save his allowance and afford these kinds of toys and play with them whenever he wants then watch guys on TV make millions of dollars doing the same thing.
I feel that instead of trying to pull kids away from these activities we should encourage them to do ANYTHING that gets them off the couch and out the door with no XBox controller in their hand.
I was one of those kids who was ATE UP with sprint car racing since I was 6 years old. I also dabbled in some of the BMX stuff and typical sports but it's always been sprint cars for me. I used to take a buddy every chance I could and seriously NONE of them ever saw what I saw in it. I started racing gokarts at age 11 and once again none of my friends were that impressed. Hell now when I race a sprint car or midget I have to practically club someone on the head and drag them to the track with me in case I get my bell rung and can't drive home.
lets face it. There are going to be people who no matter what aren't going to give 2 shits about racing. The best thing we can do is find the kid who sees us at the carwash or in the shop and oohs and aahhs at the car. Then we need to make them feel involved and get their parents on board to let the kid come to the races. I am amazed when I go to a race how many kids spend the whole night playing football under the grandstands instead of watching the races. Next time leave that kid at grandmas and find the one neighborhood kid who is amazed with racecars and take him instead.
Too many entertainment options and too many short attention spans these days. I really don't have any idea what the solution is but thanks for letting me rant.
Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.
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Posted By: Bill W on September 19 2010 at 01:48:23 AM
Yet he won't get on a roller coaster...
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I won't get on a roller coaster either....If i ain't drivin the thing I have ZERO interest or trust in it...period!
Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.
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September 21, 2010 at
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Posted By: Bill W on September 19 2010 at 01:48:23 AM
Yet he won't get on a roller coaster...
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We were up at Brainerd a few weeks ago and some people flew over the track with some kind of parachute contraptions. They were about 500 feet in the air sitting on these things with their feet dangling in the air and a big old propeller right behind them. One of the Sprint Car drivers looks up and says "they're crazy"! 
It's all a matter of perspective.
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September 22, 2010 at
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hey those roller coasters are scarey
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Posted By: darnall on September 21 2010 at 06:11:05 PM
My son started racing the Winged outlaw Karts at age 5. He even ran the 1st English Creek nationals.
After 2 years he had enough. He enjoyed the racing part. he hated having to be on the road 4 hours per night to do it. He hated having to wait for Saturday night then possibly getting rained out. He hated the high pressure atmosphere that some of the parents of the next Jeff Gordon created at a local weekly kart race. He hated 10 hours of shop time every week for no more than 12 minutes of track time once a week.
He was willing to sell the kart to build a skateboard halfpipe. We did. He is amazing on a skateboard. He loves it. He can do it whenever he wants, for however long he wants, with as much or as little "go for it" attitude as he feels that day. He can do it by himself or with 15 or more of his best friends. He can compete or just skate for fun. He can turn ANYTHING into something to skate.
As far as the safety/extreme danger factor....I felt safer watching my 5 year old kid run 60MPH in a gokart than watchin him at age 9 huck that skateboard off a set of 8 stairs. Now he's 11 and he flips the board under his feet while flying off that set of 8 stairs. Scares the hell outta me every time but makes my chest swell up big when he lands it.
You are not going to convince the typical teenager that having all the rollcages, firesuits and helmets at 140MPH is more dangerous than backflipping a BMX bike off a ten foot tall ramp. They see racecar drivers crash and walk away all the time. They see X games athletes crash then have to set out for a year with injury surgery and rehab.
But the biggest thing is cost and opportunity to play with the toy. A competitive kart operation will set you back between 6 grand and up to 75 grand if you want the biggest trailer of anyone. A Sprint car deal 10 times that much. A skateboard, top of the line stuff, costs 100 bucks. Top notch BMX bikes go for between 300 and 1500 bucks. Snowboards are under 300 bucks. Even dirtbikes can be had for 500 to 4000 bucks. A kid can work a summer job or save his allowance and afford these kinds of toys and play with them whenever he wants then watch guys on TV make millions of dollars doing the same thing.
I feel that instead of trying to pull kids away from these activities we should encourage them to do ANYTHING that gets them off the couch and out the door with no XBox controller in their hand.
I was one of those kids who was ATE UP with sprint car racing since I was 6 years old. I also dabbled in some of the BMX stuff and typical sports but it's always been sprint cars for me. I used to take a buddy every chance I could and seriously NONE of them ever saw what I saw in it. I started racing gokarts at age 11 and once again none of my friends were that impressed. Hell now when I race a sprint car or midget I have to practically club someone on the head and drag them to the track with me in case I get my bell rung and can't drive home.
lets face it. There are going to be people who no matter what aren't going to give 2 shits about racing. The best thing we can do is find the kid who sees us at the carwash or in the shop and oohs and aahhs at the car. Then we need to make them feel involved and get their parents on board to let the kid come to the races. I am amazed when I go to a race how many kids spend the whole night playing football under the grandstands instead of watching the races. Next time leave that kid at grandmas and find the one neighborhood kid who is amazed with racecars and take him instead.
Too many entertainment options and too many short attention spans these days. I really don't have any idea what the solution is but thanks for letting me rant.
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GREAT POST!! You said exactly what I would have if I could organize my thoughts that clearly...it's just a different world out there for young people these days.
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I think some are missing the point here. We need to make FANS of the young ones, not racers. I was a fan of people who did things I couldn't do, not so much of those who do what I do. I think all the little kids driving sprint cars these days is more of a detriment than an asset. If a 12 year old sees a 12 year old winning, he thinks-"these guys can't be that good, heck I could go out there and beat them". Hook em, young and make them want to grow up to be racers, or crew members, or fans. Don't tell them that they can be a driver tomorrow, because when they don't win, they'll move onto something more gratifying.
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September 23, 2010 at
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Quote: Too many entertainment options and too many short attention spans these days. I really don't have any idea what the solution is but thanks for letting me rant.
This applies just as much to adults as it does kids. I've hit on this point before, but I feel that too many race programs today are too drawn out. Whether it's because of too many support classes, too long of intermissions, or some other cause, casual fans just aren't going to tolerate 4 or 5 hour programs.
Look at Tri State Speedway in Haubstadt, Indiana. Most of their shows run just one support class. (usually modifieds) This allows most of their shows to conclude in a timely manner. Case in point, this year's July 4th weekend MSCS sprint feature pushed off before 9:00 CT. You want to get more first time fans to actually return to the tracks? Run more programs like this.
And be careful about how long your intermissions run. Most casual fans are accustomed to 12-15 minute halftimes at regular sports, so while I get that promoters need to sell as much beer and concessions as possible, taking 30-45 minute breaks before the features really won't win you over too many casual fans.
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