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Just got home from Minot,ND after spending a few days with relatives, and see here that a few were upset abut Dollansky being given time to fix his car after he was bumped into by Sweet during parade laps B-4 the feature. Payback? Probably. I see Johnny Gibson and a few others set them straight.

What was not mentioned here was Saldana, who during the feature developed steering problems and stopped. Half the grandstand could understand that he couldn't possibly continue, but continue he did, being pushed off and falling in at the back. My buddy said "what's he doing"? The car was barely driveable at 30mph caution laps, and after a couple laps, they threw the green flag and let the field go at which time Joey instantly coasted to a stop, and he stopped at nearly a 45 degree angle right in front of the flag stand in the middle of the track, this as the field was flying down the back straight. Yellow flag quickly thrown as cars entered 3&4. Joey was just delaying so his crew had enough time to get everything they needed to fix whatever might be the problem. And they fixed it.

This was an odd situation that happened in Minot, letting a possibly dangerous car restart the race, one that could have gotten cars wrecked or people hurt and yet nothing written here. Can you imagine the outrage on this forum if Terry McCarl or worse yet, that other guy, lets see, what do the jealous pricks call him, fatty, burger boy, donut kid, the azzhole, the cheater and other equally disgusting crap. Most guys on this forum could only dream of being as thin as him. Actually, too bad it wasn't one of them two guys as the posts here would have been hilarious reading. It'd be the "Schatz rule" or the "McCarl rule".

PS What a great new grandstand! Wide seat space and my knees couldn't find the backrest in front of me. Seeing both 11's parked in the work area w/flat tires at the same time---Priceless. Wrong compound boys!

Lawlessness + liberalism = HELL -  NYC, Detroit, Chicago, 
Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 

Are you "accusing" the WoO boys of showing favoritism to one of their "own" drivers?

Hard to believe. I can't see them doing that.

TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!

Try going to a track with no walls and combine it with the fact that the WoO has no two spin rule. Or the same track on any given night. You'll see more intentional yellows in one night than you will in a lifetime at other tracks.

And who, exactly, was Saldana hurting/helping by his on track activities? If he stopped twice, or three times, the only car that got penalized by his stopping was the 9 car......talk about making mountains out of molehills... sheesh!!!

Chuck.....

I also believe Saldana hopped the cusion in his heat, shut the car down, and bought out a yellow, Friday night, Kraig pitted twice also bringing out the yellow twice, Its part of the game, unfortunatly the teams know the rules well, and play them to thier advantage , Dollanskys shredded frontend (repair time) was a good call IMO, that is cheap move to damage a car in pacelaps ,but , I also didnt see the whole deal unfold in the dash , frustration is understandable, Sweet needed to remove his emotions from the track and put that wreck behind him . easier said than done , as far as wrong compound ? , its a gambel everytime you choose your settup and tires , sometimes a wrong compound will put you mid to late in the field, purely never within striking distance of a win at the checkers , the track took heavy abbrasion late, nobody had a good tire left , conservation is key, and like i said, easier said than done. the teams are good they know the rules well, I feel the racing and the drama made a pretty entertaining night . as far as safety, everything about racing is unsafe , but thats JMO ... take it as you wish ..

I rarely disagree with you but on this one I'm surprised that you don't see that he is BENEFITING by doing this (not penalized). The fans get screwed. Drivers who are starting to make their charge - perhaps in traffic - get screwed. You've been around long enough to know that momentum is crucial in this sport especially for the fast guys. How many times have we seen a great race develop at the front when some mid-packer or worse slides off the stop and instead of continuing on stops to draw a yellow? Makes my blood boil......

He was penalized, since he was placed at the back, wasn't he?

I agree that any car stopping on track slows down and probably kills a good show, but in the great scheme of things, he's not the first to do it...............

Chuck.....

They just need to impliment the "2 yellows and your done" rule. But stopping to cause a yellow happens everywhere and it's actually smart for the drvier to do so.

any chance the rule book to be sent to the WORK AREA in the off season?

bring back the 1 lap time trial format!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

bring back the 1 lap time trial format!

BRR, I like that idea!

TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!

wow, a car stalling on the track to bring out a yellow to get back into competition? never seen that one before. I would have to say I've literally seen that 500 times in my life, and less than 20 of them were world of outlaw drivers. Happens all the way from 4-cylinders to Nascar. Give me a break. Is it shady, hell no. Theyre competitors and want to do what ever it takes to win. Until there is a clear cut rule on this, it will go on forever. will never be a clear cut rule though because there is too much gray area.

should go back to flat tracks of Aussie!

No worries mate. Kerry be fine driver, loves his VEGAMITE and does very well here.

At one time or another I have seen ALL of them do something "weird" so it's just another race!

In fact, I remember a night years ago at Watsonville when the 14 car used the 69 car as a side-wall and more than once that evening!

TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!

That's funny - I've seen Sammy do that when absolutely nothing was broken on his car.

It's bad PR/business for the Outlaws to keep getting their asses kicked all the time. They need to be able to justify $35 ticket prices.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

So far, it has only been the Posse who has beaten them.

Cubic, I don't think you and I are on their Christmas card list!

TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!

witnessed this while racing outlaw karts and still in sprintcars it can cause wrecks if u dont know what your doing...

Outlaw-Kart Crewchief
Sprint-Car Crewchief

WOO needs to get rid of the work area, problem solved. I can't think of any other track or series in all of racing that hold up the race so a car that's crashed can make repairs.

A

and YES 1-lap TT's for large fields definitely.

A

Wow. I think Madsen did what any other race car driver would have done in his position. Let's see: he had the fastest car on the track, he was still leading the race with just a few laps remaining, and he got caught up in a lapped-car wreck. What would you do? Any good racer would at least give it a shot - and that's what he did. Was his RF shock broken? Yes. Was he going to be able to make it and hold on to the win? Only one way to find out. So, to me, as a racer he did what he had to do. Which was stay out and see if he could pull it off - so I admired him for trying and he owed his hard working crew to at least try it.

Was it a potential bad move in that it may take out some other drivers? Yes, but that's racing - nothing more than risk taking. You can't be successful without taking some risks when it comes to racing. Of course, nothing happened at all - he never took out the field. He actually controlled his 'uncontrollable' car back to the pits after trying it a couple laps and dropping like a rock through the field. He deserved to win that race, but luck just wasn't on his side. That was my viewpoint of the situation in GF that night.