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And who has won more races? Who is generally considered to be in a shitty mood MOST of the time? It'd be amazing what you'd see if you pulled your head out of Sammy's ass.

Correct, that was a bad deal all around.

Danny convinced Arctic Cat to sponsor him (and was convinced that a good showing would give him the sponsor $$$'s to run his own team on the WoO circuit in 2009), but Guy has a relationship with Polaris I think it was.

Danny told Guy the weekend before the Nationals that he was going to run his own car in the Nationals. Fortunately for Guy, Sammy was available to drive the 5.

Danny did good (top 5) and Sammy did OK as I recall as well (top 10).

Danny burned someone he considered a "brother" for a slim chance at a major sponsor (like less than 1% from all accounts). Car looked awesome on the track, but Artic Cat Officials I am sure heard the fans throughout the week lamenting the fact that Danny dumped someone he consdired a "brother" for the money. They had to think he could do the same to them if something he percieved as "better" came along.

From the looks of things, it's worked out OK for everyone. Danny's on the Outlaw Tour like he wanted (results notwithstanding) and Guy is crew chiefing for the Ray Evernham/Erin Crocker Team (building a team). When I saw Ray, Guy and Erin @ Dingus a few weeks ago after the races, they seemed to genuinely like each other.

Danny and Guy were all but done before the whole Arctic Cat deal even came up. That was the final straw. You are right on one account, it did have to do with money though. It had to do with Danny being told they were going to run a full schedule when he agreed to race with Guy and then Guy decides to just become a weekly car at Knoxville. If Danny wasn't racing, he wasn't making any money!! It's as simple as that. No burning of anything other than Guy not keeping up his end of the agreement.

As far as his performance in the 6 car, name me one driver that has been in that car who has done any where close to as good as Danny has done in it? What is your beef with Danny anyway? You do a very good job of making you assumptions sound like facts, I will give you that.

Again, you seem to know all the facts........

As I recall, Danny said in an interview VERY VERY early in the 2008 season that he and Guy were hooking up to run Knoxville because neither of them had any sponsors and it just didn't make sense to run the Outlaws if you didn't have the money to do it right. Neither of them ever said anything about committing to run a FULL Schedule in any media that year. I did hear Danny say that if they could land a sponsor that they'd "like" to hit the road.

If Danny was so against running weekly @ Knoxville in 2008, why didn't he quit once the deal was changed (must have been in Early April) and start his own team??

I do know that he turned the local fans off when he lamented every week that he wasn't out on the road and he was only racing "local" because he "had to" and he felt "out of place" when the Outlaws left town to go to their next stop on the tour.

Left a bad impression with fans as he could have stated it better saying "We'd love to run the Outlaws, but we love to come race locally and maybe we'll build this team up to where we can be an Outlaw calibre team in the future."

As far as how the 6 car is running, I'd say it's about the same as when Shaffer was running it. Can win some nights, but is mired mid-pack the other nights (I think both are capable drivers, but for some reason, there is no consistency with the car (and I highly doubt that besides the owner that anything is the same when it comes to crew or equipment).

I will say that Danny looked as bad as I've ever seen him @ Kville when they were here for hte Outlaw show in June. Even when he was a "weekend warrior" back in the early 80's he looked better than he did in June. I don't know why, but I've NEVER seen Danny have a problem running the bottom @ Knoxville, but he was "out to lunch" both nights in June.

I don't have a "beef" with Danny. I'd like to see him running up front giving Schatz, Sides, Saldana, Meyers and Kinser a run for the $$ every night, but right now it's just not the case.

Remember, there are 2 sides to the story, Guys and Danny's. You can't take 1 side and assume it for fact, you have to hear both sides and interpret what really happened.

Vande77 - I am an expert on Lasoski and most of what you are spreading is total fiction. I've been going to the sprint car racing for 31 years and every driver is a great guy and every driver is a jerk.

And yes the #33 Artic Cat car was by far the best looking car at the 2008 Knoxville Nationals.

EXPERT - A little spurt away from home!

P.S. He can still driver better than anyone posting on this forum!

TSA...It's not a GROPE...it's a Freedom Pat!

"Every driver is a great guy and every driver is a jerk"

Haha, now that is one of the most honest and truthful answers I have ever seen on this board!!!

Vande77, "As I recall" should have turned me away from reading everything that followed it, but I thought I would humor you. The interview you mention was VERY VERY early in the season at an outlaw show when Danny and Guy stated their intentions for the year (which is about the only thing in your statement that is worth keyboard it was typed on). Not one word was mentioned about just running Knoxville weekly.

They stated they intended to start out the year running the full WoO tour running Danny's car when it made sense geographically (southern portion of the states) and run Guys car when the WoO was closer to his shop (northern part of the states). They were going to see if they can get a sponsor to stay out on tour the whole year. If they could not get a sponsor they were going to stay around the Midwest and run Knoxville and Husets as well as the big shows in the area.

When the time came they were unable to secure a sponsor to stay on tour so it was on to the second part of the deal, run a true outlaw schedule in the Midwest hitting Knoxville weekly, Husets almost every week, and the big money shows in the area. This is what they did with some success during the month of May getting a couple victories at Husets and a couple of podium finishes at Knoxville as well as a top 10 at Knoxville with the WoO.

Then Guy started to park his car more and more, eventually by July wanting to only run it at Knoxville. This became more evident as Guy refused to take his car to the July 3rd Outlaw show at Husets (where less than a month earlier Danny had put it on the front row of the June 13th show only to have mechanical failures cause him to pull in after a couple laps).

Now you can bring in the money factor. Danny's full time job is to race. If he is not racing he is not getting paid and he was getting reduced down to part time hours!! What would you do if you were in that situation?!?!? I know I would start looking somewhere else. My employer had promised me a certain amount of hours and now I'm not getting them so I am now searching for another opportunity.

Guy did not start going back on the deal and keeping his car in the shop until mid June to early July so your argument about "why didn't he do something in april" is a moot point. Now Artic Cat comes along with a possible opportunity and you know you are not going anywhere with your current situation, what would you do? Stay where you are with part time hours and a part time job or take the possibility something will come from Artic Cat?

Like I said, the Artic Cat deal was the final straw that caused the Danny and Guy break-up Part V. It had nothing to do with "burning a brother" as you like to put it. It had to do with the so called Mr. Innocent in the whole situation not keeping up his end of the bargain and his employee decided to try and find greener pastures elsewhere.

Let the haters come forth!! haha

The most interesting thing to me about this entire debate is that I can't defend either one (Guy or Lostnutski). Guy does what he does when he wants or does not want to and has been know to take a "my way or the highway" stance without warning. Danny is so hell bent on "being on the road with the Outlaws" that he'd sell out whoever / whatever he needed to in order to accomplish it. I'm not interested in picking a side but do enjoy watching the story unfold :-).

WE have a WINNER!!!!!!

Like I stated at the bottom of my earlier thread. You have to take both sides stories and decide for yourself where the truth lies (kind of like how a Jury Does during a trial).

IMO, neither party is innocent, but Danny knew that they were not going to run the full tour at the beginning of the season unless a sponsor came on board. No sponsor materialized and obvioiusly to keep his operation going, Guy had to cut back on the # of races run to make it to the end of the season (obviously Danny was not in agreement with this).

Seems like all the blame is going to Guy because they didn't run the full schedule even though they stated they weren't going to....

Back on topic....Will Danny be in the 6 next year or what's wrong with the team. I'll stand by my comment earlier that "attitude" has a lot to do with how you race (or perform at your regular job).

As far as being "out to lunch" at the Outlaw show in June you couldn't be any more off base. Qualified quick time the first night and finished 7th in the feature. Pulled in with mechanical issues after 10 laps in the completely inverted field the second night. The final night I would have to say he was out to lunch as mother nature did him in. Other than that, I don't know how you can say he has never looked any worse with a quick time and a 7th place finish in the feature.

I know he dropped out on Friday night, but when you are running dead last within 5 laps of the start of the feature and DANNY couldn't run the bottom while other cars could, I'd call that "out to lunch" any day of the week.

As far as Thursday goes, Danny is 99% of the time WAYYY better than anyone else on the bottom, yet he couldn't do anything down there and got passed by other cars running the bottom (very, VERY unusual).

I'll stand by my statement that Danny hasn't ever looked worse at Knoxville than he did in June.

Yes, Wertz did have the 2 best looking cars that year with the Arctic Cat #33 and the Winters Trucking #23w...

BIG J

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity."

You would be standing alone because I have seen him have lots worse nights than that. I agree 7th sucks and he should be horse wiped and run out of town and lose his ride and never return ever.

You do not have a sponsor and you have a chance at one I think the driver would be a jerk to try for it

Not only can he drive better than anyone on this board he can type better and make more sense

to heck with the race lets give the money to the best personalty

"to heck with the race lets give the money to the best personalty"

You're talking about Sammy now, right?

I thought this post was about Danny.

LOL

Thank you vahn!!! I hope everybody else can pick up on your sarcasm.

HAHAHAHA!!!!! Great post!!!!