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I think I heard them say on Dirtvision it's a production corvette motor he is testing. Can anyone confirm?

What about that WoO rule????

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River Cities Speedway hosts a WoO Sprint Series race. WoO Platinum Member teams cannot race non-sanctoined events at tracks that DO NOT host WoO events.

Thanks Johnny. I thought this was probably the case.

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Two weeks ago the when they were testing the car, an old Parker Stores yellow car, the announcer said at least 3 or 4 times that it was a GM production LS7 crate engine that comes in the ZO6 Vette. I thought, no way, not a production crate engine, that's only 505 HP. He starts at rear of his heat alongsite Dobmeier, and tears to the front, said to my wife, "production LS7 crate engine my ass". Find out from a track official that Danny had called, wanting to test this LS7 engine up at Grand Forks. BUT, they put $5,000+ into the "crate engine" and it had about 750+ HP, not 505HP. The rest of the story. Apparently the extra cubic inches (410 to 427 for the LS7) was forgiven for the test. He was flying to the front in the feature and got involved in a wreck passing the 3rd place car. After last night, two DNQs with this test. I can see big arguments in Grand Forks bars about whether it was a production LS7 engine that anyone can buy for $15,000, afterall, that's what the announcer implied several times.

Adding $6 trillion of debt in his 1st term and now if 
elected again he wouldn't have to worry about an 
electorate in 2016 so the sky is the limit.And his EPA 
would continue to put the screws to oil drilling and 
mining for coal.Can you say bankruptcy.

They wouldn't be dishonest about something like this would they?

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Thanks for the clarification

No way!

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You didn't mention that they cannot run any ASCS sanctioned event even if the track does host WoO events. Seen this earlier this year at Lone Star Speedway.

Anyone know if this $15,000 crate engine test with the $5000 plus added to it that was mentioned, was something the Outlaws are doing? Don't understand why Danny Schatz would be testing a GM crate engine, as his son drives for TSR now. But I do believe there are some tracks that use crate engines in their late model class. Seems to be cheating would become a big issue.

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Seattle, LA  Who the H runs those cities. 

Maybe because ASCS has nothing to do with this thread?

This thread is mutating fast...

Was it Danny or Donny at Grand Forks? Was the $15k before or after the mods were made?

Was the crate test for WoO? or TSR? or GM? or for Shatz? or all the above?

So little real information, but so many opinions...

pushingthecushion said that it was mentioned on DirtVision about Schatz running the crate engine. Did they talk about this as if he was running it at that WoO race being broadcast on DV or were they talking about the fact that he was only testing it at Grand Forks. I'd also like to know why he (Danny Schatz) is doing this? Doesn't make any sense. Maybe the Outlaws are considering cutting costs by mandating a crate engine and they've hired Danny Schtaz to do some testing??? A long shot I know. And there has been nothing on this site about it or in NSSN.

Adding $6 trillion of debt in his 1st term and now if 
elected again he wouldn't have to worry about an 
electorate in 2016 so the sky is the limit.And his EPA 
would continue to put the screws to oil drilling and 
mining for coal.Can you say bankruptcy.

Sorry, I missed seeing gofast123's post. The LS7 engine is $14,900 at GM Performance parts, but in a search it can be found for between $13,600 and $16,000. I was told they had added aproximately $5000 (making it about $20,000) to get it to a competetive 750 to 800hp, doubt that that HP range would be competitive in WoO series. Apparently no one has any info about why this was done twice on consecutive Friday nights in Grand Forks, which is 70 miles north of Fargo. PS Donny was driving.

Adding $6 trillion of debt in his 1st term and now if 
elected again he wouldn't have to worry about an 
electorate in 2016 so the sky is the limit.And his EPA 
would continue to put the screws to oil drilling and 
mining for coal.Can you say bankruptcy.

I talked to Danny last night for about 30 minutes about this deal & apparently they are trying to get a type of crate motor program to lower cost of sprint car racing on the local level. They are trying to get it back to where locals can buy a competitive engine that will last a entire season for us weekend racers. The engine they are running is approx $20k from Shaver & they are going to test this setup at Knoxville nationals on an off night to see if it can be competitive there as well.

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I believe 360 car counts are even going down,engine cost needs to be looked at.I have always thought a bigger engine modeled after the 305 class would be a good way to go.Instead of a 305 block,use a 350 or 400 block and keep pretty much the same engine rules,give it a set of easily available and reasonably priced heads such as Dart or World product,and you would have a strong running engine for about the same bucks as a 305.

This motor uses titanium intake valves and connecting rods but the crankshaft is 4140 forged steel. They even have an optional Callies forged steel crank available. As far as electronic fuel injection I am certain that is not being used in the sprint car testing. In fact that is probably where a good deal of the $5000 was spent, injection and setting it up for a mag, cam swap etc.. I like that it uses dowel pinned forged steel 6 bolt caps too that means potentially longer bearing life from a reduction in torsional flex, at least in my humble opinion.

I have to say I think this is a very good step if they can get the results their looking for in testing. A solid good performing motor for around $20,000 is not a bad deal. This could very well revive big cubic inch sprint car racing and give racers/tracks another option rather than going 360ci. To make horsepower you need displacement and or RPM. When you restrict cubic inches you need to twist the motors harder and that leads to premature failure of critical parts. I think this deal has legs and we will see this on racetracks soon.

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