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No doubt about it, under Brill management that place has done a 180. Track surface has improved, facility finally has some curb appeal, and you don't have to wait until it gets dark to take a leak.(severe hornet allergies, never could go in the old pit outhouse)

I'll answer the question the JD posed, Outlaw does a damn fine job to cater to fans and racers. It's a bit of a drive, but has always been worth the trip. (did get covered in dust for the USMTS guys...ewwww dirt..lol)

It's called the feature or main event for a reason. Who wouldn't want to see 8 in the heats, 10 in a "B", and 24 car mains? Fact is that those days are few and far between. If 4 car heats gives a better shot of all 12-17 cars in a class to start the feature, then I can accept it. To rag the promoter is plain silly. Most tracks pay top 3 in a heat finish. He's out that extra money to ensure he pays everyone to start the main. Sounds like a helluva good promoter to me to try to take care of his patrons in these hard financial times!

Just for JD and the other concession connoisseurs, the BBQ samiches are quite tasty out there in Lincoln County.

Dirt-Mod 12, Thanks for answering my question, I to like Outlaw , nice place and runs it pretty good and you speak wise of how promoters are running their shows in these tough economic times.Just wish OMS served Ice Tea, but good to hear what other people think (Opinions) on what track they think runs it the right way and does it best.

Those BBQ sandwiches are tasty at BMS, had one a while back earlier in the season when taking in a show at the place , but did not get one last Friday as the Free Hot Dog night was to much to resist and had me several of those and ya know those might have been Hornets instead of Yellow Jackets , but just remember they had a large hotel/nest built and would get quite pissed when you walked up to buy your pit pass, funny that it never seemed to bother the folks taking money at the Pit Window , they sure were brave hombres, guess the Waltons or whoever was running the place back then (Can't Remember just to many owners) must have had em there so if you did'nt pay for a pit pass they would come after ya and it saved on paying security people.

Not trying to change the subject going on but I wanted to give a shout-out and welcome back to Holly Williams and the 64 car. Your fans missed ya!

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When we were racing we would have 4-5 cars per heat so everyone could earn more points as well as not tearing up cars and not making the features. Seemed our points were 1-50, 2-40, 3-30, 4-20 and 5-10.

I kinda miss racing but I sure enjoy watching!

Haven't made it out to BMS yet this season but I'd like to before the year is out. I just want to place my 2 cents on what you said about the 4 car heats.

1) Entertaining race fans on the sport of auto racing is to produce racing excitement with passing of cars testing their machines against one another. As a 40+ year race fan, all I see four car heats do is string out and offer little passing thus producing less excitement. Sure there will be occasional good for car heats just like there are the occasional ho-hum 8 car heats. But as an average, there are more ho-hum 4 car races than there are 8 car ones. In fact, the difference in percentages about would be fairly great.

2) On one hand, it can be understood that a promoter would want to "salvage" his cars and save them for the feature (as you alluded to). This is 'almost' an admission to a paying fan that the track will offer lesser action early on for the hopes that the feature will be "the nights show". If it isn't (not all features are great), then the whole night goes into the tank. How does a fan feel about the show then? While this approach is different in nature, promoters all across the country DO NOT submit to this philosophy for the fear factor that their program would be "watered down".

3) As for the reasoning that 4 car heats keep the "points battle" closer, I don't get that meaning at all. The cream always rises to the top, fast cars prevail. Thats just racing. Using inverted heats based on points, Your top cars are going to pass 3 cars in a heat way more readily than they will pass seven. Thus this reasoning is hard to understand.

I hope for the future success of BMS (as I do all tracks). As a "fan" of the sport, I want as many cars on the track at one time as much as possible for the maximum amount of competition. I don't believe placing a few cars at a time on a track is very entertaining. Works for drag racing but not for dirt track racing.

John Lemon

Sooner Circles @ "Hoseheads.com"

Let me chime in on this a little bit. Last Tues sport mod show and last nights heats had at least six cars in each heat when car count allowed it. So Mark is willing to work with everyone on making the racing better. There were even seven cars in an heat at one point.

Some of the best racing of the night last night was in the heats.

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You guys are doing an awsome job.

"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands 
in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he 
stands at times of challenge and controversy." 
Martin Luther King, Jr. 

Erich Petersen