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6969U812
May 20, 2010 at 12:15:11 AM
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Just heard from a little bird that Mr. Stidham was DQ after the last WC360 Race in Tulare due to some adative found in his fuel. Glad to see that no one is perfect. Just curious why it has been so hush hush, and not blown up all over the internet, news papers, and put on the side of a bus like things usually are by the cryer's in the WC360 series( I am mentioning it because i think it's funny how so much time is spent inspecting these cars). Now on the other hand you would think that the USAC WC360 series was a NASCAR series where the winner gets a million dollar pay check or something the way they are teching the cars week after week. What will the top 3 cars see next weekend in Bakersfield from the USAC officals, maybe they will be DQ for going too fast and making the other cars look bad. Here is an idea USAC just RACE!!! build a car count up, establish a fan base, get bigger series sponsors so you can get bigger payouts, and then enforce your "rules" to a "T". Until then all i see happening is a bunch of finger pointing and bickering like little kids.
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micro19
May 20, 2010 at 08:08:27 AM
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Posted By: 6969U812 on May 20 2010 at 12:15:11 AM
Just heard from a little bird that Mr. Stidham was DQ after the last WC360 Race in Tulare due to some adative found in his fuel. Glad to see that no one is perfect. Just curious why it has been so hush hush, and not blown up all over the internet, news papers, and put on the side of a bus like things usually are by the cryer's in the WC360 series( I am mentioning it because i think it's funny how so much time is spent inspecting these cars). Now on the other hand you would think that the USAC WC360 series was a NASCAR series where the winner gets a million dollar pay check or something the way they are teching the cars week after week. What will the top 3 cars see next weekend in Bakersfield from the USAC officals, maybe they will be DQ for going too fast and making the other cars look bad. Here is an idea USAC just RACE!!! build a car count up, establish a fan base, get bigger series sponsors so you can get bigger payouts, and then enforce your "rules" to a "T". Until then all i see happening is a bunch of finger pointing and bickering like little kids.


Are you serious. USAC spending too much time teching cars? This will hurt car count?

Actually doing nothing and letting everyone do what they want will lose car count. Why in the world would you want to run each week against someone that was cheating? Not saying that Mr Stidham was cheating cause I haven't heard anything official, but if someone is cheating they need to be caught.

Be happy and feel lucky that your officials take time to make sure people are legal...



RichCee
May 20, 2010 at 09:23:33 AM
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You know what is really shocking about this? Hearing that there really are USAC officials who are actively policing the technical rules. The least shocking part? Central Cal limited sprint car guys complaining about something. If they gave out free beer after the races I think most of them would complain that it's the wrong type.

I think it's great that they are looking over the cars that hard. To me, anyone actively complaining about it would be the first I'd tech because that means they might be fudging the rules a bit. That's a series I want to participate in because it means the officials care and that they want everyone on the same playing field. Hearing this just confirms my thoughts that Mr Kearns is on the right track




RACERX3C
May 20, 2010 at 11:58:55 AM
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From a safety point, I am happy that USAC inspects it's cars so closely. They found a problem in the cockpit of our car the first night we ran with them and made us fix it. The last thing sprint car racing needs is injury's or worse to help fuel the fire of those who want to shut us down. More importantly, I don't want to see anybody hurt, especially my own son.

I wish more tracks would do a simple inspection of their race cars.

 



BigMatt38
May 20, 2010 at 08:57:29 PM
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Posted By: RACERX3C on May 20 2010 at 11:58:55 AM

From a safety point, I am happy that USAC inspects it's cars so closely. They found a problem in the cockpit of our car the first night we ran with them and made us fix it. The last thing sprint car racing needs is injury's or worse to help fuel the fire of those who want to shut us down. More importantly, I don't want to see anybody hurt, especially my own son.

I wish more tracks would do a simple inspection of their race cars.

 



i agree completly ruels are meant to be enforced so if you bend them dont be surprised when you get busted the last thing anyone needs is to see family and friends get hurt or the car count drop because people are tired of the officials turning a blind eye to cheaters. good job to doug and everyone involved with the west coast sprint cars series


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chriskearns
May 21, 2010 at 12:30:54 AM
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This message was edited on May 21, 2010 at 12:31:50 AM by chriskearns

Let me clarify what happened. Craig Stidham was running a Top Lube. I believe that he was doing for maintenance purposes, but the rule clearly states NO Fuel aditives. Top Lube is added to the fuel. I do not feel in anyway that Craig was trying to cheat. He was very straight forward with our Race Director about what was in the fuel. We had the fuel tested on Monday and it came back negative with a HydroMeter.

Unfortunetaly, it is still a rule. Top Lube companies advertise that it has Horse Power gain, but I realize it is for maintenance. The reason USAC rules say, NO aditives is that how to you tell the difference in aditives? If you allow Top Lube, then how do you tell if another aditive is in the fuel.

None of the other 3 car tested had anything in their Fuel.

I feel bad for Craig, and want to make it clear that I do not feel it was a cheating move on his part. Nor do I feel it had ANYTHING to do with him winning 3 races and being the points leader. He is still the points leader. Craig is a very easy racer to deal with and does not complain.

As for the first post: That is rediculous. If we were not going to check rules, then why have them? I feel it is our duty to make sure everyone follows the rules and everyone is on an even playing field.


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Doug Bushey
May 21, 2010 at 01:55:52 PM
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This message was edited on May 21, 2010 at 01:56:46 PM by Doug Bushey
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Posted By: chriskearns on May 21 2010 at 12:30:54 AM

Let me clarify what happened. Craig Stidham was running a Top Lube. I believe that he was doing for maintenance purposes, but the rule clearly states NO Fuel aditives. Top Lube is added to the fuel. I do not feel in anyway that Craig was trying to cheat. He was very straight forward with our Race Director about what was in the fuel. We had the fuel tested on Monday and it came back negative with a HydroMeter.

Unfortunetaly, it is still a rule. Top Lube companies advertise that it has Horse Power gain, but I realize it is for maintenance. The reason USAC rules say, NO aditives is that how to you tell the difference in aditives? If you allow Top Lube, then how do you tell if another aditive is in the fuel.

None of the other 3 car tested had anything in their Fuel.

I feel bad for Craig, and want to make it clear that I do not feel it was a cheating move on his part. Nor do I feel it had ANYTHING to do with him winning 3 races and being the points leader. He is still the points leader. Craig is a very easy racer to deal with and does not complain.

As for the first post: That is rediculous. If we were not going to check rules, then why have them? I feel it is our duty to make sure everyone follows the rules and everyone is on an even playing field.



This is another example of why Chris Kearns is a great promoter...he sells tickets because he treats the fans to a great show everywhere he goes, but he brings cars through the back gate because he is always there for the drivers. Must feel good to know that your promoter is actually looking at ways to back you up, instead of stab you in the back...two very recent examples are Craig Stidham and Bud Kaeding...Chris spent a great deal of time analyzing ALL of the facts in both cases before jumping to any conclusions or going by word-of-mouth calls. Keep up the great work Mr. Kearns!


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Wrench83
May 21, 2010 at 02:15:52 PM
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Posted By: Doug Bushey on May 21 2010 at 01:55:52 PM

This is another example of why Chris Kearns is a great promoter...he sells tickets because he treats the fans to a great show everywhere he goes, but he brings cars through the back gate because he is always there for the drivers. Must feel good to know that your promoter is actually looking at ways to back you up, instead of stab you in the back...two very recent examples are Craig Stidham and Bud Kaeding...Chris spent a great deal of time analyzing ALL of the facts in both cases before jumping to any conclusions or going by word-of-mouth calls. Keep up the great work Mr. Kearns!



what was the deal with bud kaeding?

schulerracing
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May 22, 2010 at 09:29:18 AM
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Found this on another post. I don't want to throw the Kittle Motorsports team under the bus but I thought WC360's were running ASCS engine rules also. If not, would you please clarify what the new engine rules are. I am mid stride building another ASCS legal engine and would hate to find out I could have ran my open set of heads.

Brian

Just want to let our fans know that Danny Sheridan and Kittle Motorsports will not be at Perris tomorrow. We were looking forward to getting back there in a 360 and had everything ready to go. Unfortunately, we found out this morning that ASCS rules do not allow raised port heads (regardless of any combination of gaskets / intake restrictors) and this is all we have. The motor that we ran in 2008 and 2009 is sitting at the engine builders and we just haven't been able to get it freshened. We will be ready to race the 410 at Perris and Tulare next weekend!

Randy




ljennings
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May 22, 2010 at 10:36:04 AM
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Rules for the USAC West Coast 360 Sprint Car Series can be found at www.westcoastsprintcars.com or www.racesantamariaspeedway.com.

Here are the rules regarding engines:

CA315 Engine

A. 360 Cubic Inches: plus 1% maximum displacement (360 plus 1% = 363.6).

B. No aluminum blocks. No Titanium in engines, excluding valves and valve retainers.

C. Engine Rules are as follows: Legal ASCS spec cylinder head; or 1 7/8” restrictors with any open head.

D. Descriptions are as follows:

1. Spec Heads: Brodix heads part # 27-211, #27223, and #27-222 with ASCS stamp may not have any performance-enhancing alterations in any way. Intake opening no larger than original opening, the only exception being, inlet opening may be ground or polished 3/4 inches, or no further into port than the closest edge of the closest letter of the ASCS logo. During this polishing the left side of the letter "A" is sometimes inadvertently brushed with polish wheel. This is permissible as long as letter is still intact. During polishing of inlet port sometimes polish marks may go slightly further than the 3/4 inch. Intake port at no time may exceed 215 cubic centimeters. Intake port polishing will be allowed no more than 1 1/2 inches below the bottom of the original seat ring on the back side of the bowl area and no more than 1 inch on the short side. Polishing will be allowed in the combustion chamber area to avoid hot spots. Polishing will be allowed in exhaust ports as long as the original "ASCS" logo is not affected or port shape is not altered substantially.

Absolutely no intake or exhaust port relocation, raising, enlargement or reshaping of any type. Valve angle and placement may not be altered in any way on the ASCS spec head. All spec heads must remain within 1 degree of the original manufactured dimensions. ASCS checking fixtures to check the above specifications and dimensions will be used by sanctioned ASCS tracks. Any internally repaired ASCS spec head must be re-certified by Brodix.

All spec heads must remain within 1 degree of the original manufacturing.

Penalty for altered spec head will be subject to suspension, for one calendar year. Forfeit all points and moneys won, during the race which the infraction was found, and subject to a $500 fine that must be paid before reinstatement.

2. Restrictor size for ASCS legal head:. 2 3/16 inch maximum inside diameter of injector stack - 2.187 at least 3 inches in length. No relief hole may be drilled above the Butterfly on any injector. No Alteration of injector manifold mounting holes will be allowed.

3. Restrictors for all other open head: 1 7/8 inch maximum inside diameter of injector stack- 1.875 at least 2” in length. These injector restrictors must be used with any non ASCS legal spec cylinder heads. ASCS Intake gasket is no longer needed or used as a legal estrictor. Even if you leave them in, you have to have the 1 7/8 injector restrictor. No relief hole may be drilled above the Butterfly on any injector. No Alteration of injector manifold mounting holes will be allowed.

E. Electronic or timed fuel injection will not be allowed. Only one injector nozzle per cylinder. No down Nozzle Injectors. No injection nozzles drilled directly into head. No computerized injection. Injection throttle body must have one shaft operated round butterfly per cylinder. Slide or barrel injectors will be not allowed.

F. All oil pans must have inspection plug, pans without plug will be subject to pan removal at anytime.

G. Engines must be normally aspirated.

H. Only two valves and one spark plug per cylinder allowed. No big blocks.

I. All heads must remain within 1 degree of original OEM valve angle. Example: Chevy- 23 degree + or - 1 degree,



ljennings
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May 22, 2010 at 10:41:43 AM
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Other series rules include:

CA318 Exhausts

A. 180 degree Mufflers or Flow Master large Suitcase muffler are the only 2 Mufflers approved for the USAC West Coast 360

B. 95 decibels @ 100 feet NO TOLERANCE If you do not meet this requirement at any time of the night, you will not be allowed to race. NO EXCEPTIONS

CA312 Tires

A. The right rear tire must be a Hoosier RC 3, 102x16x15 or a Hoosier- VRA stamped, 102.0/16.0-15. The left rear tire must be a Hoosier RC 1. Both front tires must be Hoosier sprint car tires with the compound optional. Tires may have optional width and height, except for right rear.

B. Any device(s) used for warming the tires prior to competition is prohibited.

C. Any solvents or chemicals applied to the tire that alter the chemical makeup of the compound or have the effect of altering tire durometer is prohibited.

Any tire that is found to deviate from the original factory specifications will be confiscated. Absolutely no chemicals to be used on inside or outside of tires. If you need lubricant to your seat your tires on the bead, use soap and water. If any chemicals are detected by smell or visually, the tire will be confiscated and your purse money will be withheld. The tire will then be sent off to a laboratory to be analyzed. If the tire is found to be chemically altered, you will be fined in the amount equal to the amount you have earned in prize money on the West Coast 360 Sprint Car series for the entire 2010 season. You will also be suspended for the remainder of that racing year.



schulerracing
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May 23, 2010 at 09:09:26 AM
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This message was edited on May 23, 2010 at 09:12:28 AM by schulerracing

Thanks Lance! I droped a sleave in the #1 cylender at Tucson during the McCluskey classic so I had to start over again.

 

Brian





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