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Topic: 50th Annual Knoxville Nationals to be 50 laps
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April 02, 2010 at
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Posted By: dirtdevil on April 02 2010 at 12:30:00 AM
your point on mileage and a engine subject to damage was about fuel, (not keeping the bang in the cylinder), a week spring will cause a flat top end or poor pull on straitaways , a broken spring will obviously be catastrophic, but, your changing the direction of your bark? wernt you writing about mileage? if you extreemly overfuel your engine (methanol can) find its way to the crankcase Yes, agreed, upon idel would be most usual, Im no spring chicken to the sport and im not going to treat someone I dont know that way either, Ive drivin in a races where cars are running out of fuel , and it is extreemly dangerous ! , the position your trailing becomes a obstical, luckily nobody tears up a car, or worse, gets hurt, as a fan and a driver , the fuel stop is the safest option, IMO, although alot of contriversy is apparent , Im just speculating your older than I ? , alot of todays drivers are my age, I would imagine you have the decency to respect a drivers or (maybe you drive) competitors opinion? yes?no? I understand your deep "history" of sprint races , and I respect that, Just because I wasnt around to see Opperman, Foyt whomever, run wingless, without a cage, in thier hayday doesnt mean im any less of a fan.
Just a thought , For the 10,000+ odd screaming fans , just watch the first three nights of qualifying (its the best racing anyhow) throw your ticket away after friday night and stay home Saturday, maybe you can read about the 50th finish in the paper ?
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I agree that I got off on a "tangent" on the fueling issue. Most teams are fueling them fat though, even the top guys as I can't remember the last time I've seen a burnt piston. I was speaking more from the aspect on how the injectors have grown over the past 8 or 10 years to the point that there is now a rule on the size. Now, back to mileage, I do realize that the Weikert car burned less fuel than todays cars, but for the day, with the big block engine, it burned a LOT for the day, so the point I was trying to make is that they did what it took to finish ANY race, because fuel stops were unheard of back then. I also understand your safety concern, though I am no driver, stripped off my fair share of leftovers from a junked car, so I know where you're coming from. But to me, it all goes back to doing what it takes to win the race, and if bolting on a bigger tank, then that's what it takes. On the age deal, I'm not that old, even though I was lucky enough to see those names you listed turn some laps on dirt.
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April 02, 2010 at
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I dunno, I voted for 40 laps but I hope that everyone complaining at least voted otherwise they shouldnt complain...It was up to the fans in the vote but ultimately up to k-ville on what they wanted...I want whatever is safest and most entertaining...I happen to think also that hawker does know what he is talking about and I think that he has good posts...So if he is god i guess im hailing...lmao..
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April 02, 2010 at
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Honestly, I don't understand the blasphemy being expressed about the move to 50 laps. Thirty laps, 40 laps or 50 laps would all be fine, IMO. I am only 37 year old, but I remember seeing the Williams Grove National Open as a 75-lapper (only the real old codgers harken back to the days when it was 150 laps LOL).
Over the past 25 years, I am sure I have seen well over 1,500 races. Out of all those races, only a handful really stand out years later. One of those races was a 75-lap National Open when Steve Kinser got put the rear while leading for having too many crew members working on his car during a fuel stop. In less than 25 laps, Kinser passed the whole field and won going away.
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April 02, 2010 at
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you guys would be pissed if they raced 10 laps everyone wants something to bitch about, for the price you pay for the ticket to get in, you would think you guys would want to see more racing, why is it everyone is bitching, if you have tickets you will still show up to watch it so why bitch just sit back and watch it was only like a 2 min pit stop last year damn the race is going to last 2 extra min, if there is a red flag sometime before they have a plan to stop it then you will never know the diff. because thats when they are going to it, man people bitch just to hear themselves.
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April 03, 2010 at
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Posted By: meatbag on April 01 2010 at 02:27:46 PM
I hope I'm still alive for the 100th anniversary, can't wait to see 100 laps @ K-ville!!
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lol
I'd rather be in Knoxville.
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April 03, 2010 at
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Bitch, bitch, bitch. I'm an old fart and bitching. I'll be 50 this year and, god willing, will be attending my 42nd Nationals (42 in a row.) I'm with Hawker and others on this. I would be for 50 laps and NO fuel stop for the 50th Anniversary then next year go back to 40 laps. I have always thought 30 laps was too short for probably the biggest sprint car race of the year, but would rather see 30 without fuel stops than 40 with fuel stops. I don't think any of us have a problem with 50 laps, just the fuel stop. As far as those of us bitching just to be bitching because we have a beef with Knoxville in general? Not the case, at least for me. I have always applauded Knoxville through the years for sticking to it's guns on many issues which they felt were best for the fans and Knoxville Raceway. One point being the Nationals qualifying process. Wednesday and Thursday of the Nationals are still two of my favorite nights of racing all year. Progress, technology, innovation, and change are inevitable, and I'm all for it if it is an improvement. I sure am thankful for penicillin, air conditioning, computers, internet, and etc., but fuel stops are not an improvement. For those of you that claim us "oldtimers" are living in the past and it is better now than then, how do you know? You weren't there to experience it first hand as we were. Sprint car racing is still the greatest sport on earth, though somewhat diluted.
Having a fuel stop in a 30, 40, or 50 lap sprint car race is like track and field having a gatorade break at 50 yards/meters of a 100 yard/meter dash.
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