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I was told by a board member, when the new fence was put in, the 1/2 mile was measured 15 feet off the inside berm at Knoxville. Basically the outside of the bottom groove, so 5/8 around the top sounds about right. I know what you mean about 1/2 mile claims. I think you could fit Eldora, stands and all, inside Knoxvilles fence. But who doesn't stretch the truth when it comes to size.

That is the way I have always heard how a track is measured. When you stopping by for that drink, Henry? After Santa Anita one day?

This is a interesting thread. Thanks for those who have posted to this point for that....

On that note I hope people actually get on here more to talk of the races they see this year. Maybe that matters more to me now than before - because my weekly track here in OKC wont be runnin this season (if ever) - but I've always kind of been interested in it.

I like the Big J reports and Husets stuff. the notes and results from Farmington. The same with Central PA racing. Singlefile gets some good conversing stuff goin bout it and is always open to many questions. Would like to see more detailed stuff from Ohio and Indiana - 2 states of racing that fascinate me. Lonnie Wheatley does a simply outsatnding job with the ASCS website - as well as the Vleck (sp?) fella that writes in such fine detail about the Patriot region races. I really enjoy Bill W's writings. Kevin Eckert's ramblings is the best read ever and probably always will be. But I would really like to hear more. Would like to see more stuff from Missouri's weekly tracks and WOW stuff. I hope some NM race fans get on this year - would love to hear about the big 305 and ASCS races out there this year (who knows maybe win the lottery and just go lol). I enjoy the talk about ASCS races, WoO races, and All-Star races (believe it or not lol - as long as its not the bs from Katich -- just being honest here lol). Lastly, I'd really like to see detailed info from the California, Oregon, and Washington racing scenes. I think I know/see less about than anything else.

I know many would say - just go see these races. But it's just not practical for me. I do get around Oklahoma quite a bit. Half a dozen or so trips to Texas every year (Cowtown and Devils Bowl). Maybe an I-30 or Dodge City/Jetmore trip here or there. And of course the Knox 360 Nat's. And I do see about 12 or so tracks in Oklahoma - maybe more this year with no SFS. Plan to see a lot of micro racing as well - LOVE I-44 Speedway here in OKC. But anyways. outside of the micro races - I like putting results and quick recaps together. Hope to maybe share some on here this year - been dong it on the Oklahoma/Tidbits forum for a while now. But think that its rather unreasonable to wish/hope for other to do the same if I don't as well. On David Smith's forum on here - we've got it going pretty good with results and recaps. Many nights last year we would have results maybe even stories from 6 or more tracks some weekends - that may not sound like a lot. But just a couple years ago - many weekends there were none. I hope maybe the same type of thing could happen on this forum - it could bear so much neat and informative info and really broaden horizons for many. not meaning that negatively like folks need it - but wouldn't it be cool to read recaps and bits of info from tracks all across the country and from fellow race fans? There can never really be enough.... Ok I have really run far with this lol. Should maybe just post this in a more specific form later or something.

As I have taken the long way around - I was thinking when Big J wa stalkin bout Volusia being a small halfmile (if one at all) - I think the same about Devils Bowl Speedway in Mesquite, TX. Because many years I have seen both Knoxville and Devils Bowl in the same season. Unless Knoxville is bigger than a half mile............. Devils Bowl is just noticeably smaller than Knoxville. I know the shape/banking is much different. And not to complain about devils bowl - its a fast SOB - but.......it just seems more like a 4/10ths. Does anyone know the exact sizes of Devils Bowl? or maybe do that neat Google thing Speed1 was talking about?

sorry if this was all too much rambling.

I'm not sure that there is a proper way... but measuring off the inside wall or berm at a dirt track can be tricky since most tracks don't actually race that far down. Certainly not scientific... but I've been using the centerline in the corners and sweeping out to the wall on the straights as that is a probable line at most tracks and splits the diffference betwen the low groove and the outside groove for generating average speeds. Measuring the outside wall is kinda useless most places as well (except Eldora and Knoxville to name a few) as most places you can't actually race right up against the fence.

That said, Devil's Bowl is .44 in the middle and .46 against the cushion (which is actually visible in the sattelite image). That makes it the same size as Eldora and Volusia and qualifies it as a 1/2 mile in my book. Knoxville is .52 in the middle and .55 on the cushion... no question, a 1/2 mile.

Thanks for the responses.. so regarding the 11K do you really not believe that some of Tony's money isn't being filtered down into Kraig's car? Do you really think Steve would fill the seat his son had for the last 2 years without a little financial help to get Kraig back in the family car? Seems like common sense to me without confirming anything.

BIG J