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Where are all the good year haters at. Two races and no problems. from what i understand the tires hook up really well and last. i thought they were gonna ruin racing as we know it.

You're right, BIGGIE.

Something must be wrong... I thought this tire change would ruin racing, bankrupt teams, increase global warming, increase the federal deficit, etc.

The racers don't seem to be that worked up about it. Maybe they realize "that's the way it is" and whining is only that... whining.

I thought the sky was falling and the world was coming to an end. GY seems to be gaining more series and tracks every week.

A smart crew chief can adjust the car to work with the tires. Teams should've never had to change a complete shock/bars/wing angles and such to adjust for the tires though. Teams still can't get anymore than 9-11" of stagger in the rear. Racing still isn't too exciting. In the first 2 races, they have both been freight trains with only a few guys moving up more than 5 spots.

I don't think GY was a fixall-endall solution kind of deal. As for them adjusting shocks and bars, what difference does it make if they had to. Only on rare occasions does the winner start back farther than the 3rd row. Not just the WoO, but any kind of sprint racing.

Goodyears solution to get back into the "game" was to produce cash flow and pay off the tracks from their existing Hoosier deals. They did so, now they need to produce the tires so teams can have between 9 and 14" of stagger at every race. If they do that, racing will be better.

I got a call last night from a crew chief stating that the track was "too fast" and the only guys passing anyone continuously was Rahmer and McCarl. If those two guys can come up 9 positions each, how come nobody else who started closer to the front could catch Dollansky and pass him? Craig even said himself that this was the first time they ever ran Goodyears. They never tested them like the other teams did as they practiced with them and the 3 Kahne teams tested at 311 Speedway. The tires aren't better or worse, they're the same as Hoosiers and the problem will just be continuous.

I don't think GY has a bad product. They're basically making a (spec) tire. I think the problems we will see are going to be supply issues. GY racing division's number one priority is Nascar. An engineer told me that the second priority is NHRA. Once we get into full swing with Cali and PA going, if there's a glitch in NASCAR I think there could be a sprint tire shortage. JMO

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Dude, seriously quit your FU%@ING WHINING!!!!!!!!! Are you a fan or not? If so shut up and support and if not shut up and stay HOME! Are you new to the sport or what? Incase you didn't know Teams change stuff on thier cars all the time and all night long, no matter what tire, chassis, engine and wing thier running. The racing looked pretty good to me, the track was just "hooked up", nothing you can do about that, same thing if the track was junk and dry slick.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

Whining? No. Being realistic? OF COURSE!! Am a fan? You could say that, a little more though. Am I new to the sport? Not even close. Been around a long time. Teams don't change all 4 bars on their cars and teams don't change all 4 shocks on the cars just to help a tire hook up. It happened, last night. These tires were to make the racing better and allow guys to pass continuously. Didn't happen.

a couple tires did not make the distance tonight...im just sayin!

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Does anyone here remember when Woo ran Goodyear tires a few years ago?

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One tire, Hodnetts. He could have cut it on something, ther were only about 11 laps down when it shredded.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

Ok a few more tires shredded, but it was dry slick and the tires still might have been cut, maybe they still had good tread left.

The older I get, the faster I used to be.

Didnt Haud lose a LR later in the race, after the fuel stop

how many cars were running 50 minutes later when Saldana crossed the line?

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Member of this message board since 1997

these tires are the fact of money and greed , all or nothing, yes mam, no sir, do it or dont show up, play or go home, your good im better, Nothing About Passing, in that case ,the tire rule would be open, and the best tire(nightly) would win on a well prepped car , Hoosier-Goodyear I think they both provide a good product, Ive seen teams make the same changes on a Hoosier not because of a tire, but because the track was prooving to be locked down ,big locked down tracks become predictable, dont kid yourself.

The only ones losing out is USAC and Hoosier tires. After what they tried on AR they can kiss some ass!

What's old is new ....what's new is old ....GY 'stiffs' Hoosier ....Hoosier had 'stiffed' McCreary ....McCreary had 'stiffed' GY (spec track tire rule) on and on. If the GY's are priced with-in a couple of bucks (or the same) of what Hoosiers were .... fair enough.

It sounds like GY is putting up points funds and sponsorship monies to various tracks and sanctioning bodies so that's a positive. I'd just hope someday they go to a hard right and hard left tire. Only one hard compound avaialable that you can sipe or cut as the team wishes, but not soften artificially.

Then all teams would run the same hard tire which should un-hook the cars and put a little more driver finesse into the equation. Bet the same guys will still win but the racing would be more exciting and that can't do anything but help the crowd count.

R.A.

S.H.S.