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minthess
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January 10, 2010 at 09:09:31 PM
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Pass Time just showed a small block Mustang run an 8.80. It said it was a 460 small block! I've never heard of such a thing but wouldn't another 50 cubic inches on the cushion at Eldora make things interesting again.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


BigRightRear
January 10, 2010 at 09:18:55 PM
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probably already been done...just not publicized!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

harriet_othelo
January 10, 2010 at 09:43:13 PM
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And sure as hell not with a Ford.




Hawker
January 10, 2010 at 11:42:27 PM
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F1 engines are putting out about as much horsepower as most 410's these days. The kicker? Normally aspirated 2.4L (roughly 160 cubic inches).
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n2sprints
January 11, 2010 at 06:56:48 AM
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Posted By: Hawker on January 10 2010 at 11:42:27 PM
F1 engines are putting out about as much horsepower as most 410's these days. The kicker? Normally aspirated 2.4L (roughly 160 cubic inches).


Hey Pat, how do you think that f1 hp would react to a "dry slick" track



minthess
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January 11, 2010 at 04:09:52 PM
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Posted By: Hawker on January 10 2010 at 11:42:27 PM
F1 engines are putting out about as much horsepower as most 410's these days. The kicker? Normally aspirated 2.4L (roughly 160 cubic inches).


No turbo and 800 HP with 160 cubes? Wow.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?


slide22
January 11, 2010 at 04:26:50 PM
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Posted By: minthess on January 11 2010 at 04:09:52 PM

No turbo and 800 HP with 160 cubes? Wow.



that would be one helluva midget.



darnall
January 11, 2010 at 05:39:37 PM
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Something that would turn 17,000 rpm in a midget would be cool as hell


Loose is when you hit the wall with the rear of the
car, tight is when you hit the wall with the front of
the car. Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall and
torque is how far you move the wall.

lewlew
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January 12, 2010 at 02:22:10 PM
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Posted By: minthess on January 10 2010 at 09:09:31 PM

Pass Time just showed a small block Mustang run an 8.80. It said it was a 460 small block! I've never heard of such a thing but wouldn't another 50 cubic inches on the cushion at Eldora make things interesting again.



Have not seen a cushion at Eldora in a long time.




minthess
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January 12, 2010 at 05:33:55 PM
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Posted By: lewlew on January 12 2010 at 02:22:10 PM

Have not seen a cushion at Eldora in a long time.



good point


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?

throttlejohnson
January 12, 2010 at 09:43:44 PM
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Could of been a mistake (big block) or the motor is a stroker. Question is why waste your money on a FORD! I have an 434 stroker kit for a 350 small block chevy, so it is possible, but way to expensive for a ford.


The older I get, the faster I used to be.

Hawker
January 12, 2010 at 09:52:06 PM
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Posted By: darnall on January 11 2010 at 05:39:37 PM

Something that would turn 17,000 rpm in a midget would be cool as hell



They were turning 21,000 rpm until the put the rev limiter on them @ 18,000 2 years ago.
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Hawker
January 12, 2010 at 10:00:27 PM
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Here's the "old" 3.0L V10 engine (183 CID) from 4 years ago....5 valves per cylinder, normally aspirated....

 


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SteveV
January 12, 2010 at 11:14:07 PM
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I've seen stories in drag racing mags (and on line) of small block Chevy's and Fords going out to almost 500". The tall deck blocks with a raised cam make room for some massive strokers.



doublenuthin
January 13, 2010 at 05:57:58 PM
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I think a lot of 430 to 460 small blocks time trial during the Knoxville Nationals then mysteriously develop a miss crossing the finish line on the second lap. I asked Earl Wagner a few years ago why they didn't pump every one that came out. He mumbled something and walked off.




BigRightRear
January 13, 2010 at 07:28:44 PM
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lol...exactly.


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

henry chinaski
January 13, 2010 at 07:39:30 PM
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Posted By: doublenuthin on January 13 2010 at 05:57:58 PM

I think a lot of 430 to 460 small blocks time trial during the Knoxville Nationals then mysteriously develop a miss crossing the finish line on the second lap. I asked Earl Wagner a few years ago why they didn't pump every one that came out. He mumbled something and walked off.



Ding Ding Ding....we have a winner! HAHA this guy gets it.


Cheers!

JeremyAnderson
January 14, 2010 at 01:25:28 PM
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4.185" bore and 4.200" stroke with a 9.500" deck 351w block equals 462cid. Pretty easy build with a Ford.




minthess
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January 14, 2010 at 07:30:39 PM
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Posted By: JeremyAnderson on January 14 2010 at 01:25:28 PM

4.185" bore and 4.200" stroke with a 9.500" deck 351w block equals 462cid. Pretty easy build with a Ford.



Thanks.


Luna's Ford engine style that won 2 WoO titles and 3 
Kings Royals before a weight rule against the best EVER
in their prime and now DOMINATES super dirt late model
racing is no longer allowed/wanted in a WoO sprint
car.... Was Luna a miracle worker?



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