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so with okc going under will the 2 barrell classes at meeker and lawton get bigger will anyone pick up the super sprint rules is there anywhere within a couple of hours that run an ascs rule weekly

The only track "close by" per say that runs ASCS rules on a weekly basis is Cowtown Speedway near Fort Worth and 81 Speedway in Wichita, Kansas, which run NCRA rules but they are the same as ASCS rules.

Brandon (cheese) hit the nail on the head on all accounts.

David Smith Jr.
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could i-44 expand to run a sprint car show would they be willing to

Well there were quite a few parents willing to do that every Friday night for 50 years, so why would it be any different now?

Friday Night Lineup: ASCS, Champs, E-Sprints, & Mini Sprints.

Saturday Night Lineup: Mini Stocks, Factory Stocks, Mods, E-Mods.

Not too shabby, and if he paid $1000 to win with a bolstered back end like he always does he could have 25 ASCS cars a night alone. Dad and I had a petition going at SFS for 1 week and 15 of the 22 drivers signed it. That's not counting any of my family. So that's at least 17 of the supers that are for it. I also talked to Brady Bacon and Donny Ray Crawford and they both said that they travel to Cowtown for weekly shows for $750 to win. There are cars out there to be had. And on top of that there will be more champs there on a weekly basis too... Just something to ponder.

Cheese, Mark wont run two shows a week, we've talked about that in the past.

He wont pay $1000 to win for Injected cars with Cowtown doing it for $750.

Meeker OK. will not go to the races 2 nites a week tell me any track that does run twice a week on a weekly basis {not a special event}.

Mark has a machine shop that is open on Fri. and no time to prepare a track.

Expense are double but fan count with running all sprints one nite and stock cars another cut attendance each nite.

You can probably forget about Fri. nite racin "IF" SFS closes. {This is one time I agree with KOP}

I'm not tryin to burst your bubble but you might want to get a 2 brrl. or a gas card to run at TX. or KS. or continue to try to keep the gate open where you and your Family have run for years.

Again nothing personal like some other threads have headed.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

There will be an ASCS weekly show somewhere in the metro area one way or another within 2 years. There are 22 ASCS cars that I can count off the top of my head and at least 5 more supers that would put the big wing on. Who would turn down the possibility of 27 cars on a consistent basis. Also Mark will pull more cars than Lanny because he's a good guy that actually cares about his drivers. Besides, the Sooner Region host races at tracks in OK, so I'll stick with lobbying for what I want which is coincidently stuff that doesn't affect you, since you don't have a sprint car and you aren't Mark. OK wow, he may not want to run Friday nights, that doesn't mean he might not want to run ASCS. Hell he would probably drop all 5 weekly mods in a second to pick up around 25 ASCS cars that actually put fans in the stands.

where is mark going to race

Most likely the same place the Sprint Cars race on Friday.....Nowhere, Oklahoma.

did they put a track in there it is up by fort cobb is there still a weekly sprint show in kellyville

or, you could go with OCRS....

"its useless to put on the brakes when you are upside 
down"   -Paul Newman

My question is that now that SFS has closed and the ORA begged us to join, What are they going to do to find us a place to race? And especially the Super Sprint Class. Allot of us have lots of money wrapped up into our cars and are unable to afford an ASCS motor or get a new manifold and Carb set.

We are working on it trust me. These things take time, but we are working as fast as we can. We should know alot more in a couple of days.

The best thing for you injected Drivers to do is get a 2 brrl. for next year IF SFS closes. Or step up to ASCS and travel. As far as the ORA goes it can still be an asset to racers and fans, if for nothing else for the info but it has to be run corrcet so everybody has a vote and equal representation. Talked with Mark some about that but the ORA probably needs to contact him to iron things out, if he's even intrested. Remember there wern't very many ORA teams at his track last year and they all ready have a good system and teams that have been loyal. It might be time for the ORA to to tell Promoters what they can "offer to them" instead of what a promoter "needs to do for them".

Car count

Fans

Car Shows

ETC

But SFS isnt offically Closed yet. IMHO

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

OCRS is a great series. As I said earlier, we had already planned to race ASCS this year so we planned to travel, but it would be great for sprint car racing around here to have a weekly ASCS race. I do plan however on racing OCRS someday in the future when I can afford both ASCS and OCRS.

Dekal, the beauty of Meeker is that the super motor will definitely hang with an ASCS motor there.

Plan 1;

You know what you Injected teams are fearing is what I was fearing when Lanny came in. Everybody knew that Lanny is a Sprint Car Promoter and felt safe but the two other stock car classes didnt know what was going to happen. He ended up changing Pro Stocks to Quick Changes and blowing out the rules in Factories and lowering the pay in both. That cost those teams money as well to adapt to the change. To make an Injected back to a 2 brrl isnt as much as that if you buy smart. If you want to run Injected you'll just have to pony up and do it but your still some what restrickted where you go. Most of you havnt traveled in the past with the ASCS for all season so ask someone that has how much that will cost and I think the economical answer is apperant. A 2 brrl may not be as responsive as an Injected but hey it is still a Sprint.

Plan 2;

Contact Brill, Ada, Lawton El Reno or any other race track in OK and try to put a series together. A series of 8 to 10 races might be about right for an inagural season series. You all do probably have more fans than any other class {Mods have quite a few too} that would travel short distances to see you run. Put together a great show that each Promoter can see the benifits to running you weekly and find a home.

Plan 3;

Quit thinking the fight is over today it aint. It might be over shortly but it's not now. Dont act defeated however bleak the outlook may be until we find out in a week or so. Everyday has brought more info part rumer part fact but who can tell the difference yet? Your best bet is to keep the SFS gate open if you can.

Plan 4;

Sale all your stuff for $.50 on the dollar and go fishin.

"Racing is an Addiction cured by Poverty"         
BOBCAT

I actually really like plan 2. That's a cool idea.

I like plan 3. Don't act defeated and "Never Quit".

I think if Mark Brill had wanted additional races to promote, he would have jumped on the Enid situation and taken on that challenge. One of the most difficult things about Friday racing at Meeker would be the I-40 traffic on Friday. If you have ever been on I-40 between 4:00 and 7:00 PM you know what I mean. For those of you that race, you guys will go through anything to get to a track, but if it is too difficult a trip for a family to make, they will stay home. For me, Meeker would be a great deal since it's a short trip, but I can't see Mark taking on a second night. If he could get 5-10 cars per class that now run weekly and pick up 250 to 500 fans on Saturday, he would be a happy man.

There has been some preliminary discussion about expanding I-44 to a 3/8 mile and keeping the small track inside much like the old Fair Grounds Speedway used to be. If that happens, 2011 would be the best estimate of racing.

OKC injected sprints have been a great class for years, but you could see the end in sight when Devil's Bowl went ASCS rules. I would think Lanny would have adopted the same rules here if he was assured of a future for the Speedway. He probably felt that 2010 was going to be the last year and by keeping the OKC rules, at least you would have had a year to use up those engines.

Oh well, at least I can listen to the midgets in Kansas City on the computer tonight. Jackslash.com