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December 12, 2009 at
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Assuming that we do all we can do and the city council members and the mayor blow us all off, Does anybody know if there is a charter somewhere, stating that if a track is built within 50 miles of the SFS, that that track cannot run V8 classes or the same class of cars that runs at the SFS?
David Foley
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December 12, 2009 at
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I would'nt thank so but you never know. Why?
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234
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December 12, 2009 at
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Well with the possibility of that new track in el reno, if we get two more years at sfs, and he gets that el reno track ready to go it would be with in 50 miles of the sfs. That could determine for at least a while what he can and can not run there.
David Foley
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December 12, 2009 at
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Posted By: wrench_23 on December 12 2009 at 05:13:12 PM
Assuming that we do all we can do and the city council members and the mayor blow us all off, Does anybody know if there is a charter somewhere, stating that if a track is built within 50 miles of the SFS, that that track cannot run V8 classes or the same class of cars that runs at the SFS?
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Where did you come up with that???
Randy
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December 12, 2009 at
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Brill's is less then 50 miles from OKC I thank. They run V-8s.
JIMMY MINTER 'AKA'dirtrack234
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December 12, 2009 at
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December 12, 2009 at
06:57:43 PM by BobcatJD
I heard that in the past as well, but one city cant tell another what they can and cant do. They can put other pressure on them {somewhat}. But I do remember that. Another old document that is rumered to be out there is something about the person that owned the land before the fairgrounds was there, there might be some requierments in that as well. But that document would be in the hands of the Fair Board.
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December 12, 2009 at
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Posted By: BobcatJD on December 12 2009 at 06:54:17 PM
I heard that in the past as well, but one city cant tell another what they can and cant do. They can put other pressure on them {somewhat}. But I do remember that. Another old document that is rumered to be out there is something about the person that owned the land before the fairgrounds was there, there might be some requierments in that as well. But that document would be in the hands of the Fair Board.
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I heard a story that Sabolich wanted o have a Knoxville Nats race a few years back. Okc would not do it so he called up the officials in Guthrie and they were all for it. Well the story goes that Okc officals called up the Guthrie officals and told them they better not.
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December 12, 2009 at
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Posted By: dirtrack234 on December 12 2009 at 06:42:05 PM
Brill's is less then 50 miles from OKC I thank. They run V-8s.
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acutally i bealive brill is a little more than 50 miles for SFS, cause my grandma lives in chandler and form the start of the turnpike at I-35 to her house 42 miles and thats just from the start of the Turnpike and I-35.
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December 12, 2009 at
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Posted By: rhilbers on December 12 2009 at 06:17:49 PM
Where did you come up with that???
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Heard that along time ago, and it came up agian a few years ago when there was the first talk about the track being shut down.
David Foley
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December 13, 2009 at
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Posted By: wrench_23 on December 12 2009 at 09:54:00 PM
acutally i bealive brill is a little more than 50 miles for SFS, cause my grandma lives in chandler and form the start of the turnpike at I-35 to her house 42 miles and thats just from the start of the Turnpike and I-35.
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According to mapquest, track to track right about 52 miles. Well within 50 as the crow flies, besides, those clauses normally cover new construction. I would think Brill's would be grandfathered in for thier establishment prior to this hypothetical legislature. jmo
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December 13, 2009 at
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What about Noble? The dragstrip?
Keep in mind there was a dragstrip also on the fairgrounds.
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December 13, 2009 at
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Thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. That would be like saying if mcdonalds sells hamburgers then no one else can sell hamburgers within 50 miles. In america we have freedoms and thats why there is lawyers.
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December 13, 2009 at
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Posted By: brian26 on December 13 2009 at 08:09:27 AM
What about Noble? The dragstrip?
Keep in mind there was a dragstrip also on the fairgrounds.
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Most non-compete agreements/clauses get tossed when legally challenged in the court system, so even if there is a 50 mile limit clause in an old document, it is unlikely it could withstand a court challenge in todays climate. When I first started attending races at the fairgrounds, Oklahoma City had two active drag strips. One ran on Saturdays and was on the east side of the metro and the other ran on Sundays at 1-40 and Choctaw Road. It was a great week end of racing.
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December 13, 2009 at
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The drag strip at 40 an choctaw road is not a housing edtion.
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December 13, 2009 at
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Posted By: Dirt-Mod12 on December 13 2009 at 05:25:14 AM
According to mapquest, track to track right about 52 miles. Well within 50 as the crow flies, besides, those clauses normally cover new construction. I would think Brill's would be grandfathered in for thier establishment prior to this hypothetical legislature. jmo
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Exactly if they only cover new construction, than the new track in el reno, is within that 50 miles, If there is a Document that has that clause, they will have to look into it.
David Foley
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December 13, 2009 at
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why are you slamming a guy that will keep racing nearby when the fairgrounds going down. you're going to have to drive 6 hours for an every week sprint show that has more than 10 sprints as it now stands. go for it FOOL.
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December 13, 2009 at
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Posted By: modified156 on December 13 2009 at 10:43:39 PM
why are you slamming a guy that will keep racing nearby when the fairgrounds going down. you're going to have to drive 6 hours for an every week sprint show that has more than 10 sprints as it now stands. go for it FOOL.
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No body is slamming anybody, all i said was if there is a document like i have heard about, Then he needs to check into so if there is he can run a certian kind of cars and if there isnt, then game on, Besides if we dont get the electric fixed according to the sfs website it wont matter.
David Foley
not afraid to post my name.
David Foley
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December 13, 2009 at
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if you bring up crap like this then you are against the El Reno track,FOOL.
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December 13, 2009 at
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That document as I remember hearing stated "as long as it was opened". If it closes there should be no issue.
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December 14, 2009 at
12:40:26 AM by rhilbers
WOW... This tread is getting crazy every body needs to take a deep breath. IMO the 50 mile thing is B.S. Oklahoma has all kinds of stupid laws on the books and alot of them have been challenged, the wording to some of these laws have been changed and so will this one.
The only thing that will help is the NEWS MEDIA and not getting in to a pissing match on-line.
Randy
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