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Things just got a little more interesting in Ohio............

O�Reilly All Star Circuit of Champions join forces with Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company

Camargo, IL (10-21-09) � By Kelly Brown � When the All Star Circuit of Champions embark on their 2010 race season, it will be on the wings of Goodyear. Today the O�Reilly All Star Circuit of Champions announced it has entered into a multiyear agreement with the Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company to be the Official Tire supplier.

When the 2010 season takes the Green Flag in Florida for the Winter Nationals in February, O�Reilly All Star Circuit of Champions competitors will be required to race with Goodyear tires on the left rear and right rear wheel positions.

�Goodyear recognizes Sprint Car racing as one of the elite forms of motorsports,� said Justin Fantozzi, Goodyear�s Marketing Manager of Global Race Tires. �We have a strong history in sprint car racing and we look forward to building on that tradition in 2010.�

Goodyear and O�Reilly All Star Circuit of Champions officials are currently working with teams and tracks to identify the compounds and construction that best suit Sprint Car racing. Multiple compounds will be coupled with stiffer construction in order to achieve objectives of reducing traction, increasing maneuverability and creating even more exciting racing for Sprint Car fans.

�We are excited to have Goodyear as the official tire of the All Star Circuit of Champions.� stated All Star Circuit of Champions President Guy Webb. �It is an advantage for everyone involved. They are committed to making a significant investment in Sprint Car racing through providing teams with world class tires that will produce the best racing possible. Goodyear is also providing major promotional support and will be supporting the All Star Circuit of Champions through various marketing initiatives.�

Goodyear�s first foray in racing was in 1901 and it is a tradition that continues to today. Their first victory was in 1901 when Henry Ford put Goodyear�s on his car sponsored by the Detroit Driving Club and next year they will be continuing their winning ways with the All Star Circuit of Champions. For the most up to date information on the All Star Circuit of Champions, bookmark www.allstarsprint.com on your computer.

About Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company

Goodyear is one of the world�s largest tire companies. It employs approximately 70,000 people and manufactures its products in more than 60 facilities in 25 countries around the world. Its two Innovation Centers in Akron, Ohio and Luxembourg strive to develop state-of-the-art products and services that set the technology and performance standard for the industry. For more information on Goodyear, please visit www.goodyeartires.com or www.racegoodyear.com.

Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.

Things are really going to be interesting at Attica and Fremont!

Chuck.....

What are Attica and Fremont gonna do or are they still under contract with Hoosier?

Not surprising considering the ASCoC frequent "co-sanction" arrangement with the WoO.

Phil Taylor

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Attica and Fremont just signed a new deal with hoosier. You thought that the car counts were low this year at some allstar shows....wait 'til next year.

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I don't know if I feel that the All Star car counts will fall; a lot of teams that currently forgo All Star shows may now show up since some of the FAST cars that run with the ASCoC will elect to stay away due to the tire rule.

The thinking may be that with fewer FAST cars, they have a better chance of competing with the ASCoC......

Just sayin'.......

Chuck.....

When you copy and paste a bunch of text written in microsoft wurd it always shows up in my computer with stacks of artifacts where comma's and such should be.

The top teams will have a selection of tires if they choose to run. With the All Stars sanction races ,,,,,,,if there is any at Fremont and Attica the majority will have tires either way .J.M.O. We will see but I think it will work out.

Once again, as with the WoO new agreement, it won't make a rat's butt bit of difference in car counts.

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Most right rear tires are new for the feature races for the top teams anyhow so unless the price is out of line I dont see a problem.

well if it keeps 360's away that help complete their fields outside of the 410 areas.......it very well could.

thats plausible right?

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That is great news. We have WoO, Knoxville and now All Stars on Goodyears. Next is the PA and Ohio tracks and then throw in NorCal.

I don't understand what difference a Hoosier vs. a Goodyear right rear would make for 360s filling the field at a WoO race or an AllStar race for that matter.

The ASCS tire rule and WoO tire rule was different this year... did it matter? Nope. Friends of mine that ran a WoO race with a 360... they bought the WoO legal tire and didn't run the ASCS tire. Did it keep them from running the race? No. Do they have a bunch of $$$? No.

What would it matter this year with a different brand? No. Different from ASCS is still different... doesn't matter what brand because it's still different.

It's not like cars that start a WoO or AStar race are starting on a 4 race old right rears... you burn off the rears and get another tire for the next race. Run the same rears for a couple of WoO/Astar races and you're not wasting tires.

How many teams show up with 4 tires on the car and no spares? None. Run the Goodyears at "no tire rule" races and run them at the WoO/Astar races. It ain't rocket surgery! Throw them in the trailer and burn them off at a dry slick or daytime race in a heat.

If they are going to run stiffer construction and harder compounds, it just might make some of the 360's more competitive as they fill the 410 fields. If nothing else it may even up the 410 fields. This seems like a winning deal for the fans at least. The best tire rule (imho) was the old NCRA 360 rule. Medium compound lefts and Hard RR's. That's my $.02 MB

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The part some of you are not grasping here is the new rule includes the LEFT rear, too. So you are not just buying a right rear...you might be buying a right rear and 3 or 4 left rears if you want to adjust your stagger at any point throughout the night. At the very least - its a new RR and a LR and that's about $400 right there off the top. Want to be competitive? Double that!

Former Owner/President of FAST and Black Swamp Media
Group. Currently just another fan in the stands.

What you're not understanding is that the "base" for the allstars is attica/fremont. When the allstars have a weekend off, most of them run these two tracks. When speedweek comes around each year a large number of the cars that travel and support the series are regulars from these two tracks. That's not to mention guys like Byron Reed, Brock Mayes, Chris Andrews and several others that will hit the odd allstar race here and there at the end of the season.

Both tire deals (attica/fremont and the allstars) mandate both rear tires, so when an allstar show comes to town the local drivers will be forced to spend a large amount of money to purchase tires that they can't use at any other times and vice-versa for the allstar teams that run locally on their off weekends.

Also, as OKC mentioned, if it wasn't for 360's you'd have about 10 cars per show in the thunder through the plains.

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All the posters saying that different tire rules will not affect car counts are just wrong. I realize this is a Sprint Car board, but for proof of what a conflicting tire rule does to a car count look no further than this past weekend's Eastern States 200 for DIRT Modifieds. Eastern States Weekend dates back to 1961 and is the most historic race all year on the Northeast Modified calendar. This season, Orange County dropped the DIRT sanction and went with their own tire rules for racing their this season. In one year, the car count went from 75-80 Modifieds down to 47. The race attracted only a handful of outsiders for $20,000 to win and several of the biggest names in Modified racing stayed away expresssly because of the cost of buying tires for one race.

On one of the Modified boards I post on, driver Gary Tomkins said his team was not going to Eastern States because it is not just a matter of buying one set of tires. Like Swamp said, if you want to be in the ballpark on stagger, you are not just buying one right rear and one left rear.

The same thing is happening at other Northeast Modified tracks because of exclusive tire rules at various tracks. Last year, Fonda (N.Y.) ran a $9,500 to win show at the end of the season that drew 31 cars and just two outsiders because they are on an island with their tire rule. The same thing will happen with Sprint Car racing when there are various tire rules between different tracks and sanctions.

One of the things I am real curious about is if they have a tire that actually works. We ran their crap back in 03 and it was a freakin joke. All the Goodyear guy's would keep saying is "This one will work, we're getting better". I learned how they were all hand made, all the details about the manufacturing process that quite frankly..... I didn't care about and still don't. I just wanted a tire to race.

I realize that was six years ago but ...... The overall performance and quality was absolute crap. Tires way out of round and out of balance. Usually we would end up mounting three right rears to get one that you could balance out so the car wouldn't shake like an old John Deere B.

I really hope for the sake of the sport and the guys paying the bills that they have a product that will work.

I also wonder if all the racers are going to get the "same" tire. When we ran them they would have a compound number on the side but in reality it would be something else for compound and casing. Granted you can enforce a compound rule somewhat with a durometer but the casing is as important as the compound and who monitors that? We could never rely on what the tire had on it for markings then so who is going to police it now? Is the outlaw team going to get the same tire off the truck as the weekly racer? I personally don't believe Hoosier gave everyone at every level the same tire either but that's a whole different can of worms.

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