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Topic: Blast from the Past - Green and Kinser 1983
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October 04, 2009 at
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Tim Green and The King at the Knoxville Nationals in 1983
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October 04, 2009 at
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Posted By: PorschePeteTx on October 04 2009 at 12:19:09 PM
Tim Green and The King at the Knoxville Nationals in 1983
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Lee,
Your pix are THE BEST! Only have to ask my self "Man am I really old enough to remember and appreciate these pix"!
Keep them coming
Coz
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October 04, 2009 at
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Lee,
Thanks for posting. Seeing this made me step into the way back machine. The old orange left rear beadlock add-on on SK's left rear was coming into play at this time. Lyle Marsh had the stranglehold on the beadlock market for at LEAST a year before all the other wheel manufacturers jumped on board. You can plainly see the MRT sticker on Kinz's front wing... I wonder if the younger set ever seen any of the plastic wheels MRT turned out? BTW: Who needs hydralic wing sliders?...
Way cool stuff you are posting up!
Take Care,
BC
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October 04, 2009 at
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October 04, 2009 at
06:36:29 PM by filtalr
Looking at the 11 car I was struck by how much heavier the car looks and how much lighter the driver looks. 
I know ... I got no room to talk ... I've put on a few over the years too ... just sayin ... 
Phil Taylor
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October 04, 2009 at
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Greta memories.... I still have a poster of the Coors Light Silver Bullet sprinter hanging in my garage. Reminds me just how much this sport has changed over the decades but remained the same.
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October 04, 2009 at
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Posted By: filtalr on October 04 2009 at 06:36:02 PM
Looking at the 11 car I was struck by how much heavier the car looks and how much lighter the driver looks. 
I know ... I got no room to talk ... I've put on a few over the years too ... just sayin ... 
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yep. go figure, no full containment seats back then when they both were skinny.
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October 04, 2009 at
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Tim Green's car has a coil over front end obviously (you can't see any torsion arm framework out front for a start - and those of us that can remember know it was a coil over car anyway), was that a Trostle car, it doesn't look like a Trostle cage but rather a Stanton design.
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October 04, 2009 at
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Green's car was owned by the Lovell Bros. out of Yuba City, Calif. and yes it was a coil over car. Love the old pics!
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October 05, 2009 at
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And would you look at the size of them tail tanks!! Bet they would let you run more than 30 laps even with today's motors.
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October 05, 2009 at
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'83 was when I was getting old enough to remember things about the races in detail... lots of memories of that year for me at the Bowl, Big H, Lawton, OKC... the old TX/OK tour that the WoO did.
I don't know the origin of the Lovell car but it definitely looks like a Stanton product; the Trostle cage was considerably different at this time. I remember seeing the coil car at the Bowl, have pics of it. Need to look at my pics to see if it was 4 or 2 coil... I honestly don't remember. It was purpose-built coils in the front for sure.. wasn't like they just plugged on coil overs and removed the torsion bars one night. Possible clipped Stanton car? Stanton one-off? Stanton played with coils on his own #75 cars (the white ones Rick Hood drove wingless... see Open Wheel article pics) and there was a Lealand McSpadden car with the same coil design that appeared "Stanton" like the Hood car.
MRT beadlocks... that was the standard. Sammy used Centerline wheels with Nance and then Weld with Beadle. Those bright orange rings were all over the place with a few exceptions such as Sammy... and even he had some of them, too. Someone was making some yellow beadlocks (our car had some of them... don't recall the manufacturer) in '83. Streaker had some as well it seems.
My reaction to the pic was like someone else's here... DUDE look at the tailtanks! They didn't look big at the time... there were Saldana tanks that were a little smaller looking than this but those look like Silver Crown tanks compared to today's 4 ouncers. Looking at pics like this make me even madder about fuel stops and organizations that don't tell teams to run bigger tanks. INSANE.
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October 05, 2009 at
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Here is another shot of Tim in the coilover car, this time at the traditional Iowa State Fair races the day after the 1983 nationals.
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October 05, 2009 at
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Where's the upper rear shock mount?
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