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cubicdollars
July 14, 2009 at 08:11:50 PM
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They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



PCR FAN 2
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Cubic What does it mean in lay mans terms



cubicdollars
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Cubic What does it mean in lay mans terms



Since hardly anyone seems to run the cheap traction control that goes inside the box, they all run the external module, I figured I'd ask MSD if it was possible to make a box that would at least be able to sense if the timing was tampered with or not. So when the tracks send the boxes back for tech it would at least act as a deterrent. Not sure if it is even feasible, MSD hasn't replied yet. At least they didn't say no right off the bat...lol? Figured I might as well put it out there before Knoxville. Maybe someone who understands the technology better might be able to shed a little light on if it is doable or not, or have a better idea along the same lines.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com



BigRightRear
July 15, 2009 at 01:24:07 PM
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1 WoO car in the top 10 on Posse Soil vs. 1 local car in the top 10 in parts unknown...thanks for playing along at home there Chad Little!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

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July 15, 2009 at 01:35:13 PM
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Is this a lame attempt to deflect the attention to the fact that nobody outside of PA and Ohio has defended their home turf this year?

See? It can work both ways.


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July 15, 2009 at 02:40:32 PM
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I'm from Ohio. Mcarl has toured and ran the majority of the year on the road. On the other hand, PA and Ohio had winners that have ran the majority of their season on home turf. Big difference there wouldn't you say?

It's just like if Jac would have won when the outlaws were at attica. Sure, we're damn proud of the man and he's on his home turf, but it's not a local team or a team that has ran most of it's season here.


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singlefile
July 15, 2009 at 02:44:43 PM
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Personal bias and hatered aside, anyone posting on a Sprint Car board that Williams Grove, Eldora or Knoxville don't matter is foolish. Those are the three tracks that matter in Sprint Car racing.



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July 15, 2009 at 03:47:47 PM
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I'm not making up any rules. I'm simply stating my opinion and attempting to discuss it. This is a message/discussion board after all. If you don't know where I'm from after all this time, you obviously havn't been paying attention or have a serious problem with reading comprehension. If this is the case, I'm sure that there are resources available to you in your local area. I do realize that this is a problem for some of you folks out in corn country. Anyone in the same general area of Katich is liable to have stupidity rub off on them to a certain extent.

In the case of Mr. Rahmer and his success or lack thereof at certain tracks, the same could be said for Mcarl. I seem to remember a certain WoO race at a north central Ohio track where several qualifying attempts were made and he didn't even move forward from the b-main. I'm sure that our friends in central PA could site several such failures by him and others from your area over the years. Where were YOUR EXCUSES when that occured?


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sprint 82
July 15, 2009 at 06:07:56 PM
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I thought for sure this thred was about traction control.

NOT BULL SHIT!


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BigRightRear
July 15, 2009 at 09:01:05 PM
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FORD97 - i gotta hand it too you...1 car in the Top 10 for K-ville regulars IS an achievement...even if it is Tmac who just fell off the road a few weeks into the season. around here, as thoughtful hosts...we reserve a nearby tree (stand) for McCarl to watch the A main in the event that he cant put a local car in the wall to qualify.



Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

rj5150
July 15, 2009 at 09:32:07 PM
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Personal bias and hatered aside, anyone posting on a Sprint Car board that Williams Grove, Eldora or Knoxville don't matter is foolish. Those are the three tracks that matter in Sprint Car racing.



And for pete's sake........don't forget about Chico!! Because i sure as hell don't see Eldora getting the amount of car's as Chico does, hell even throw Williams Grove in for that matter. And the Gold Cup has been around FOR a long time. Anyway's not trying to start a riot, but just stating it should be included in every topic if we are discussing the most important tracks in the country.


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July 15, 2009 at 10:49:46 PM
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They are ALL running it on every level. You get it, or you chase it, it is what it is......




sprint 82
July 16, 2009 at 09:35:30 PM
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This message was edited on July 16, 2009 at 09:38:07 PM by sprint 82

After seeing this devise, you know damb well who on the track at a WoO show has it.

Oh like all 12, shit the local guy's don't have a chance.

After seeing them at Beaver Dam on sat. and Cedar Lake sun., both tracks like a hocky rink.

Those guy's just get faster as the race go's on.

Them having the cheat factor takes away the wow factor.

I don't even want to go see them any more.

Oh well we have the IRA sat. at Dear Creek.,That's real racing.


A Bad Day Of Sprint Car Racing Is 10 Times Better Than 
A Good Day At Work!

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July 16, 2009 at 10:47:11 PM
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The traction control device is not that great. It doesn't work as good as you think. I have seen many racers try them and then wish they never bought one. The guys up front don't have them it is the guy in the back that is running them to try and catch up to the guy in the front.

My advise is if you are a racer don't waste you money on tricks like this.

If you could put a full traction control unit on that measured actual wheel spin then that would be a huge advantage as long as you didn't want the tires to spin.



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Posted By: sprint 82 on July 16 2009 at 09:35:30 PM

After seeing this devise, you know damb well who on the track at a WoO show has it.

Oh like all 12, shit the local guy's don't have a chance.

After seeing them at Beaver Dam on sat. and Cedar Lake sun., both tracks like a hocky rink.

Those guy's just get faster as the race go's on.

Them having the cheat factor takes away the wow factor.

I don't even want to go see them any more.

Oh well we have the IRA sat. at Dear Creek.,That's real racing.



Well said Sprint 82!


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MASSiveFAN
July 16, 2009 at 11:50:47 PM
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I was once told that there was not cheating in racing, it is using a "Creative Advantage". Not going to name the source but they've won a lot more races than most racers could dream about.



cubicdollars
July 17, 2009 at 10:22:46 AM
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The traction control device is not that great. It doesn't work as good as you think. I have seen many racers try them and then wish they never bought one. The guys up front don't have them it is the guy in the back that is running them to try and catch up to the guy in the front.

My advise is if you are a racer don't waste you money on tricks like this.

If you could put a full traction control unit on that measured actual wheel spin then that would be a huge advantage as long as you didn't want the tires to spin.




That might be the case in the World of Outlaws a little bit, but in Pennsylvania the big money teams are the ones that dick around with stuff like that. They are the only ones who can afford to waste $7500. It may not work as good as the full blown version but it still has to be of some benefit or it wouldn't be so prominent in the late model ranks. If they could come up with a TC Detection MSD box, it would save people money and peace of mind because then no one would be running it... not in sprint car, late model, modified, NASCAR, Drag racing, etc. Seems like there might be a need, if they can do it and do it cheaply. Figured it wouldn't hurt to ask if it can be done anyway. Maybe NASCAR would even push something along these lines if sprint car racing doesn't?

 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


sprint 82
July 17, 2009 at 04:30:29 PM
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The traction control device is not that great. It doesn't work as good as you think. I have seen many racers try them and then wish they never bought one. The guys up front don't have them it is the guy in the back that is running them to try and catch up to the guy in the front.

My advise is if you are a racer don't waste you money on tricks like this.

If you could put a full traction control unit on that measured actual wheel spin then that would be a huge advantage as long as you didn't want the tires to spin.




You have to be kidding right?

Obviously you where not at Beaver Dam sat. night.

Super slick, hell schatz's car was miss firering the hole way around the track.

That's traction control at it's finest.

All the out law's got faster as the race whent on, the other car's tire's where gone.

Hell even Ellenberger started to move up at the end.


A Bad Day Of Sprint Car Racing Is 10 Times Better Than 
A Good Day At Work!


cubicdollars
July 22, 2009 at 04:23:10 PM
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This message was edited on July 22, 2009 at 04:29:25 PM by cubicdollars


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


cubicdollars
July 23, 2009 at 04:57:25 AM
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http://www.williamsgrove.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=25852

 


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com




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