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Controversial feature on the first of back-to-back Speedweek dates at Williams Grove last night. Young driver Chris Meleason led the first 11 laps of the feature , and was being challenged for the lead by Fred Rahmer.Following a lap 11 restart, Meleason took a low line into turn one and Rahmer tried to squeeze under Meleason where no room existed. Both cars flipped, with Rahmer tumbling over the first turn guardrail. Third running Chad Layton also suiffered damage in the incident and had to pit as well. That handed the lead to Brian Montieth, who led the rest of the way to continue the best year of his career.

Thirty-five cars on hand.

1 21 Brian Montieth

2. 22 Greg Hodnett

3. 7M Mark Smith

4. 1 Stevie Smith

5. 17 Daryn Pittman

6. 88 Todd Shaffer

7. 25 Justin Henderson

8. 11 Mike Erdley

9. 89 Cody Darrah

10 87 Alan Krimes

For the Ohio fans on the board, Chad Kemenah finished 14th. A midpack time trial inverted him to the pole of his heat. He started 17th in the feature and was not able to get anything going during the event.

Come on single, you know nobody cares about what happens in palookaville unless the Outlaws are in town, dang. Heck, this could be your big year or the year that things started to turn around if their last trip was any indication. Enjoy, Take It Easy....

LOL Come on, Rahmer drives over the kid leading the feature and even Cubic is not on here for his interpretation. LOL Honestly, if seems like traffic is way off on this board as a whole anymore. I suspect a lot of that is because of the constant bashing and flaming that goes on here. Unless someone posts something designed solely to troll or start trouble (such as the All-Star thread or a Posse vs. the world thread) , most of the actual racing threads get no more than a couple replies at best anymore. Things didn't used to be like that on here.

And just who was "Hoser" of the year last year?

There hasn't been a 'Hoser' of the year for a few years. It stopped when the get togethers on the 2nd floor of the Hall of Fame ended. It took too long to count all the votes (all 2 of them, lol) was the excuse we used for a while. Take It Easy....

PS In spite of what some might say I was always a big Fast Freddie fan because of agressive moves like that, always thought he would have been a great Flyer! Was he chopped off, or did Chris come down on him or was there really NOT enough room for the move, what's your take?

Rahmer thought he was going high. He thought wrong. There were 13 laps to go and he was faster than Meleason. He didn't have to do it. He cost himself and tore up equipment. I understand going for the win but he should have showed better judgement. He said, " I thought he was going high and he cut down on me and I was coming'. It was Meleason's line. It was a mistake by Rahmer.

I agree with Fastforum. I don't believe Meleason chopped Rahmer off going into the corner. A lot of the low-dollar teams will lift when Rahmer gets alongside them or tries to slide them. Another lap and Rahmer would have had him clean. Not to bring up the stupid Posse vs. the World argument, but Meleason is a kid I wish would have gotten the No. 25 or No. 35 ride when they opened up because he doesn't get intimidated by the big names and is very fast some nights for a family-owned team without a lot of money behind it.

I'm wondering if Rahmer felt desperate for the pass on the restart because of a surface that was hard to pass on through extended runs???

The rest of the sprint car world would love to hear all about PA Speedweek! A complete rundown and story about last night's action at WG was nowhere to be found this morning. (many of us Ohioans were looking) Promptly posted results (within an hour or 2) breed more internet chatter, which amounts to free PR for the track!

9th Annual Northern Ohio Sprint Car Show
March 18-20, 2011
Featuring the FAST sprint cars
NOSCS Hall of Fame, and much more...
At the Tiffin Mall in Tiffin, Ohio
Official home of the Hoserville Ohio Benefit Auction

Come on Scoop, Fred doesn't ever feel desperate, he's a Champion, err, make that a Hall of Fame Champion, he's passed as many cars at the Grove as anyone ever has. Stuff happens, then you move on and go get 'em the next night, I'm sure Fred will. Take It Easy....

Yea that true. Fred is a champion and he will have a another car tonight. But he was to aggresive last night. He is having a below avarge speedweek and a not so hot year. It easy to say stuff happens but will a low budget team be able to move on? Jack Hewitt did the same thing one year (I think at Eldora) and said it was his fault. Fred could be have some class and say it was his fault. Don't blame it on the other guy everytime.

Too aggressive driving a sprint car, hmmm, sounds like an oxymoron to me. When stuff happens with Freddie in PA everybody whines but when he beats the Outlaws he's your biggest hero, lots of hypocritical talk goin' on some of the boards today. He was going for the win, it's what he does best, sometimes s**t happens, sprint car racing has more of it than most other forms of racing and is one of the reasons the sport is as exciting as it is. Take It Easy....

No its not oxymoron. You can be to aggressive driving a sprint car. You have to be aggressive and smart. Freddie was not smart last night. He cost himself a win. I like good clean racing. I don't care who wins. I rather see good racing.

I don't have a problem with Freddie. He is great for central pa racing. But he made a mistake and that all I'm saying. We were not even halfway. He was showing the kid his nose going into one, lap after lap he would have gotten him if he wasn't so aggressive.Lucky nobody got hurt.

by the way were talking about the grove . Tonight should be good

nearly identical to the move by Solwold who ran over the front of Carber's car a few years back in the night before the Grove Open...which Solwold apologized in VL...only this time Rahmer's car sat on top of the 8 car as they slid up the banking and deposited Rahmers car like a dump truck payload over the fence. pretty much ended Rahmer's speedweek hopes.

Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Just getting back from ASCS at The Ditch. What about when Rahmer squeezed Wolfe into the inside guardrail two years ago? Didn't they suspend him for a week or two for that? Sounded like Lucas was lucky to walk away from that one. Freddie's won a ton of races and I respect him a ton.

Rahmer did not get suspended for the Lucas Wolfe incident. He lost his points for that night of racing and had to start in the back of the field for the next two shows.

Single-

You may want to go to the Willy Grove board for discussion on this incident. Besides, there's only 3 smileys on HH, not enough for the average Posse fan.

Lol! They are WAY out of control with the smileys on that Willy Grove board.

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I like the full assortment of smileys available on the Grove board. At the very least, this board could use an angry smiley shaking his fist at paying $30 to see the guy on the pole lead flag to flag in a one lane parade.

What the h*ll. I was in the first turn of the GREED for the Thursday night AND Friday morning show! Don't you just love those 24 Hour of Le Mans style sprint car shows. The track was lightning fast (because GOD wanted to see a good show), so "he" rained on the track. I digress. I owe no allegiance to either driver. With 14 laps left, the fast one really crashed hard on the non-winner. Way too hard! I believe that within a lap, the fast one would have gotten the non-winner and went on to win the race! Both cars suffered heavy damage and nothing was gained. Since the fast one already has the Lucas Wolfe first turn pit fence stuff under his belt, this is not a good trend. In my opinion, this was a pressing aged sprint car driver in first class equipment v. an independent family team, with a young sprint car driver trying to get that first win! Bang! Unfortunately, sh*t happens. E-Mods.

Yes a little more timely listing of results or even a top 10 would be nice, after all us Ohioians do like to read about sprint car racing, regardless of where it's at in the world. And being PA is next door, I like to read results about their drivers as I can associate with many, as I've seen them race.

About the most pathetic posting of weekly results around usually comes from Limaland here in OH, they can update their website schedule by removing the weeks race by midnight, buts its early afternoon the next day before results are posted.

I agree on the Limaland point. Never could understand why some tracks do not understand the importance of prompt posting of news and results. This is the single most cost efficient way of advertising your product. If a track runs Friday, and no news is released until Sunday, by then most fans have already lost interest in searching for those results.

9th Annual Northern Ohio Sprint Car Show
March 18-20, 2011
Featuring the FAST sprint cars
NOSCS Hall of Fame, and much more...
At the Tiffin Mall in Tiffin, Ohio
Official home of the Hoserville Ohio Benefit Auction