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lookin for the loose stuff
March 08, 2007 at 11:32:49 PM
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on March 06 2007 at 01:46:01 PM

Yes and I'm convinced the only reason Esh was able to stay up front so long was because he had so little fuel in the car and ran out right before the caution came out. Thus the car was lighter the whole race. The caution for rain came out at the right time for him. But you have to admit, it was a smart gamble.



Better get your facts straight first there buddy ! There was enough fuel in the car . It just wasn't picking it up because the pickup was bent from a flip a few weeks before the Open .



lookin for the loose stuff
March 08, 2007 at 11:34:27 PM
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on March 06 2007 at 01:56:14 PM

The advantage at the Grove for local drivers is so much more than for Knoxville locals. The Grove is a paperclip with relatively flat corners, whereas Knoxville is one of your high-banked half-miles. The PA drivers know the track so well and the outlaws don't because they don't run there every week. Put a track that is an exact image of the Grove in any state and the outlaws would have a tough time, as long as the track had a weekly show.



They did take the banking out ofd Knoxville before the Nationals last year? That was my first visit to Knoxville  and I certainly WOULD NOT say it is high banked. That is just funny .



lookin for the loose stuff
March 09, 2007 at 12:35:46 AM
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In the Knoxville WoO results , I see 17 PA regular drivers / cars that won . That's better than Knoxville regulars ? Hmmmm. I think out of those 17 wins , only three (Stevie Smith / Hamilton - Stevie Smith / Smith) were by a driver / car running the WoO season in the same year. I think I'm correct ?




Racefan227
March 09, 2007 at 01:51:03 AM
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This message was edited on March 09, 2007 at 02:05:35 AM by Racefan227

Ok just a note. When I originally posted what I did, It belonged way up front. I've been having problems on this site. anyone elses like skipping a day to post?

Toughest place for the Outlaws to race against regulars is PA. I agree with that. I also agree with the statement that PA has trouble going elsewhere. I think those are fair statements and don't understand why no one sees it as that simple.



Paintboss
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March 09, 2007 at 07:55:04 AM
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Attention all Knoxville regulars and future regulars: Starting this year will you all agree to never leave Knoxville during your driving career no matter how good you

get and no matter what WoO offers come your way

so we can start building a database on Local track / driver vs WoO statistics and maybe settle this

once and for all in about 10 years from now.

Terry and Kerry: Maybe you guys could pledge loyalty to Knoxville and come back and help us get a jump start on the record?? Crap you guys already have WoO wins so I guess you are now exempt. Oh well..

 



MSPN
March 09, 2007 at 08:00:23 AM
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Racefan 227, my original views and observations which started around 1995. I have been voicing them on the net since 1996. Bottom line, some people don't deal with the facts very well, oh my. My other comment to complete the trifecta years ago was that the Grove was America's Slowest Half Mile (where sprints are regularly raced, lol). It's all good folks, what matters the most is the tip I have in the first race at Western Fair Raceway tonite, if it comes in, then it might be handsome enough to even hit PA again this year, lol. Wouldn't that be special?

Steve V. I have laid down my camera for a living, I may shoot a few shows this year to supply a few people to keep in the loop a wee bit. I am happily semi-retired in Canada getting ready to start a new life with many changes in it, stay tuned. Take It Easy....




BigRightRear
March 09, 2007 at 08:53:09 AM
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Trifecta? you referring to the POSSE PODIUM SWEEP?

it only happened 1 time in WoO history...pounded by 3 locals...running for 4th!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Twenty8
March 09, 2007 at 09:42:16 AM
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Posted By: team wright-one on March 06 2007 at 10:48:36 AM

i don't really give a crap how much they are in debt. (lets make it clear it is dirt in total that is in debt and a lot of that has nothing to do with woo it just falls under the same umbrella) unless they are dirt stock holders i doubt most people give a crap as well. they could fold up and roll away tomorrow and we would all just find another place to race. but untill that happens i am willing to give them the benifit of the doubt.



Its the sprint car division that has the debts, the other divisions are keeping DIRT a float.



Twenty8
March 09, 2007 at 09:49:59 AM
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Posted By: BIGFISH on March 08 2007 at 08:32:00 PM

Johnny Herrera ?.. BBR, Yes, he had a win but how long was he a regular ? I know he was a regular at Manzy because I saw him come up and I know he had some good years with the OutLaws but I guess I lost track of him. How long did he run there?

Thanks Kenny



After the WoO Johnny had to race the under lock and key program for a while.




BIGFISH
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March 09, 2007 at 10:00:09 AM
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This thread is like flipping back and forth between Fox and CNBC news.


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

BigRightRear
March 09, 2007 at 10:23:00 AM
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Posted By: BIGFISH on March 09 2007 at 10:00:09 AM

This thread is like flipping back and forth between Fox and CNBC news.



or like watching Mr. Potato Head - Tim Russert lie...i mean report on the Scooter Libby Trial!

MSPN is notorius for spinning his foot around inside his mouth until he has kicked all of his teeth out...then declares he has been right all along, no matter what he said earlier, in the middle or later!


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

BIGFISH
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March 09, 2007 at 10:26:33 AM
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This message was edited on March 09, 2007 at 10:35:02 AM by BIGFISH
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Posted By: Twenty8 on March 09 2007 at 09:49:59 AM

After the WoO Johnny had to race the under lock and key program for a while.



"After the WoO Johnny had to race the under lock and key program for a while".

Thats not much of a answer, you especially mentioned his name as a home boy in your debate. How long?

I've seen him run with USAC/CRA, SCOA, and the Outlaws in the last year, he still gets around pretty good.


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 


BIGFISH
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March 09, 2007 at 10:31:40 AM
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Posted By: BigRightRear on March 09 2007 at 10:23:00 AM

or like watching Mr. Potato Head - Tim Russert lie...i mean report on the Scooter Libby Trial!

MSPN is notorius for spinning his foot around inside his mouth until he has kicked all of his teeth out...then declares he has been right all along, no matter what he said earlier, in the middle or later!



Well, he's far from the only one.


Half the lies they tell about me aren't true. 

cubicdollars
March 09, 2007 at 10:41:33 AM
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Posted By: Paintboss on March 09 2007 at 07:55:04 AM

Attention all Knoxville regulars and future regulars: Starting this year will you all agree to never leave Knoxville during your driving career no matter how good you

get and no matter what WoO offers come your way

so we can start building a database on Local track / driver vs WoO statistics and maybe settle this

once and for all in about 10 years from now.

Terry and Kerry: Maybe you guys could pledge loyalty to Knoxville and come back and help us get a jump start on the record?? Crap you guys already have WoO wins so I guess you are now exempt. Oh well..

 



If you had enough fan following to build three or four more tracks in the area and run 100+ times a year instead of 30 they probably would... Going to a twelve car inversion would probably be a little bit too much to ask however... Fans out there in corn country probably couldn't handle all the excitement...laughing


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


Rogue-9
March 09, 2007 at 11:54:55 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on March 09 2007 at 10:41:33 AM

If you had enough fan following to build three or four more tracks in the area and run 100+ times a year instead of 30 they probably would... Going to a twelve car inversion would probably be a little bit too much to ask however... Fans out there in corn country probably couldn't handle all the excitement...laughing



From Circle Track & Racing Technology, June 2006 Issue in an article by Larry Jewett- A list of # of dirt tracks in each state in the U.S.:

Pennsylvania- 48

Iowa- 50

Iowa wouldn't have to build tracks to run sprints on more of them.

 




cubicdollars
March 09, 2007 at 01:31:48 PM
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Posted By: Rogue-9 on March 09 2007 at 11:54:55 AM

From Circle Track & Racing Technology, June 2006 Issue in an article by Larry Jewett- A list of # of dirt tracks in each state in the U.S.:

Pennsylvania- 48

Iowa- 50

Iowa wouldn't have to build tracks to run sprints on more of them.

 



So what's the problem then...lol?


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


BigRightRear
March 09, 2007 at 02:07:00 PM
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maybe this thread should be renamed to the "to the whiners/complainers and Anti POSSE folks"


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May

Rogue-9
March 09, 2007 at 02:25:02 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on March 09 2007 at 01:31:48 PM

So what's the problem then...lol?



I don't know, I don't live in Iowa.




Paintboss
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March 09, 2007 at 03:15:46 PM
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From Circle Track & Racing Technology, June 2006 Issue in an article by Larry Jewett- A list of # of dirt tracks in each state in the U.S.:

Pennsylvania- 48

Iowa- 50

Iowa wouldn't have to build tracks to run sprints on more of them.

The Midwest is a hotbed for Late Models, Our "powers that be" strategically plan how many Sprintcar tracks to run and how often so as not to over produce future World of Outlaw stars.

 

 

 



cubicdollars
March 09, 2007 at 03:23:30 PM
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The Midwest is a hotbed for Late Models, Our "powers that be" strategically plan how many Sprintcar tracks to run and how often so as not to over produce future World of Outlaw stars. -Paintboss


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com




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