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OKCFan12
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June 13, 2009 at 01:58:37 AM
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Official Feature results from State Fair Speedway (OKC) June 12th.

ASCS National Tour Speedweek - 41 cars

B Feature #1
1. Danny Wood
2. Martin Edwards
3. Danny Jennings
4. Dustin Morgan
5. Kenneth Walker
6. Colt Treharn
7. Andy Shouse
8. Robby Wolfgang
9. Earnest Jennings
10. Andrew Marshala
11. Brian Parker
12. Michelle Decker

B Feature #2
1. Tim Crawley
2. Shane Stewart
3. Aaron Berryhill
4. Kevin Ramey
5. Claud Estes
6. Sheldon Barksdale
7. Matt Covington
8. Kyle Merriman
9. Dale Wester
10. Koby Barksdale
11. Rick Barksdale

A Feature
1. Gary Wright
2. Brady Bacon
3. Eric Baldaccini
4. Jason Johnson
5. Travis Rilat
6. Paul McMahon
7. Matt Clevenger
8. Channin Tankersley
9. Gavin Punch
10. Nick Smith
11. Tim Crawley
12. Brian Brown
13. Sean McClelland
14. Jack Dover
15. Shane Stewart
16. Danny Wood
17. Gary Taylor
18. Don Young
19. Robert Sellers
20. Danny Jennings
21. Martin Edwards
22. Chris Lloyd
23. Aaron Berryhill
24. Seth Bergman

ASCS2 Winged Outlaw 600's

A Feature
1. Kevin Bayer
2. Brandon Hahn
3. Michael Wickham
4. Blake Hahn
5. Jason Lair
6. Scott Sawyer
7. Jerry Tucker
8. Stevem Shebester
9. Cody Claxton
10. Tyson Hall
11. Nick Ivy
12. Ryan Duke
13. Matt Ward
14. Hunter Jones
15. Frank Flud
16. Geoffrey Burk
17. Joel Smith

USA Modifieds - 23 cars

A Feature
1. Charlie White
2. Charles Day
3. Lloyd Buntin II
4. Steve Smith
5. Randy Golden
6. Allen Chickering
7. John Webb
8. Jaymon Gregory
9. Lonnie Nunley
10. Tommy Kirk
11. Chuck Poff
12. Carl Bohnstedt Jr.
13. Jeremy Green
14. Jay Sale
15. Jason Miller
16. C.A. Nix
17. Stanley Reed Jr.
18. Jeff Rowland
19. Garry Little
DNS - Tony Anderson, Bobby Smith Jr., Alan Oliva, Ron Gould

Sport Mods - 22 cars

B Main
1. Randy Sallee
2. Curtis Allen
3. Bob Mock
4. Jimmy Manharth
5. Randy Thomas
6. Joe Bohnstedt
7. Isaac Hamby

A Main
1. Cody Whitworth
2. Todd Decker
3. Terry Osborn
4. Jeff Autry
5. Shane Lupi
6. Gene Bryce
7. Justin Allen
8. Tommy Bohnstedt
9. Ken Monroe
10. Curtis Martin
11. Steve Robinson
12. Logan Macy
13. Bob Mock
14. Raven Culp
15. Randy Thomas
16. Jimmy Manharth
17. Tyler Piercey
18. Dustin Buntin
19. Joe Buntin


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hard head
June 13, 2009 at 11:06:41 AM
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Junky racing conditions !!!! Hog tie the water truck driver and whoever told him to put more water on it. Then everyone that thinks the track was crappy can slap em on the legs with a hickory switch. That was pathetic. It was finally ready to race on at the end of the ASCS A Feature.



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June 13, 2009 at 12:45:00 PM
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I agree 100%


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June 13, 2009 at 02:12:11 PM
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Anyone that thinks dryslick is one lane wasn't at OKC last night that was the most one lane race track I've been on in a long time, much less the 10 guys that won't be racing anytime soon due to blown motors thats why I pulled off no sense in doin the same.


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June 13, 2009 at 03:28:29 PM
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I agree also! Dry tracks are where its at! (Great racing that is.) They've given us really good tracks the past few weeks, which has resulted in some great racing! I was hoping for the same last night, but instead they bring back that heavy, sloppy junk they call a race track. No thanks.


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This message was edited on June 14, 2009 at 04:44:47 AM by OKCFan12

well anyone disappointed in fridays track at SFS - is twice as pissed if they went to Lawton tonight.

Check it, it's great when they are fast and all, but tonight just wasn't any good. The cushion was like 8 feet up from the bottom of the track. And it never really went up much from there. Lanny Edwards is probably the sole reason why Speedweek is no longer for National Tour points. Jason Johnson likely lost a championship 2 years ago because the 2007 Speedweek finale at Lawton was EXACTLY like it was tonight.

I'm damn near done with trying to figure it out. How is it that after near 5 decades of doin' this he cannot find any consistency in his racing surfaces? It's not about talkin crap on him - it's just look at Lawton the last 2 weeks - WAY too dry - and this week? - WAY to heavy.

The irony is that when the Sooner region runs SFS the tracks are usually not as heavy as when it is the National Tour - that sooner show we had last month when we had 56 sprints was great. Really brought the drivers out. What could be said after SFS or Lawton? LMAO - Yeah the winners drove great but at the same time - in Victory Lane they may as well have thanked GOOD FORTUNE for how they drew. Anything outside the first 2 rows and you were screwed unless the heat was weak (ie Marshala starting on the front to clear a path that hopefully you cleared without damage).

Creek turned out to be BY FAR the best show of the 3 speedweek events. In fact, the only consistency I see after a few years is that paying 20$ for Lanny's ASCS National Tour events is a complete joke. Instead of gettin it too wet - why not let it be a tick on the dry side for the heats - which would produce the great elbows up racing that ASCS is more than capable of producing. And if it is too dry before the features - get the tiller and a water truck to deliver a good cushion - and do it during Lanny's beloved hot dog breaks - which he still took tonight depsite lighting strikes all across the sky.

Or better yet - how bout let ASCS prep the track - because clearly Lanny can't get a handle on it for the National boys. nothin' against Lanny - I enjoy goin to his shows most of the time - more than most other tracks definitely. But whereas Creek was great - the highlight of the weekend was seeing/conversing with good folks - and meetin' some new ones (the vacationing Cajun's were a delightful couple to talk with........at great length lol). In fact, I was sore that lanny took that intermission with threatining weather in the vicinity - because midway through the ASCS feature I was completely convinced (and still am) that the USA Modified feature was going to be the best race of the night......

And there's Lanny's National shows for ya in a nutshell. IMO it degrades the series....how many folks went to either night and were disappointed. Not everyone I am sure - there a fools like my father that think these 1 lane fast tracks are great.....which to that all I can say is "If ya don't know.........then ya just don't know". lol. But I imagine many were disappointed.

Case in point:
There was a fella sittin next to us - a goodfella - who is serving in our Armed Forces and is currently stationed at Ft. Sill - has been for awhile - will be another 40 days he said. He was not happy with tonights show. He was happy to see what he called a "quality race ON PAPER". And he turned out right. Not because ASCS doesn't put on a show - go watch em outside of Lanny's tracks and the National Tour puts on a doozy 8 or 9 times out of 10. Very good drivers and lots of em. But this particular goodfella happened to be from the state of Ohio - which goes without saying he is used to quality - catching weekly shows at the likes of Attica, Fremont, Chillicothe, etc. etc.

And he said much of what I thought, much of what we already knew. The track was simply to heavy to produce 20$ worth of quality racing. As is the extremely sad norm - our weekly shows outdo damn near every national show we have had for a long time - and that is a shame. Shame that these 20$ ASCS shows that should be Double the quality of our weekly shows - instead barely goes halfway, because the track is way to heavy. He liked the Micro's - but like anyone who saw the last 2 nights could agree - not good to put em on a track bigger than Creek. Both SFS and Lawton were just too big - it was like watching big sprints on a full mile - or better yet like watching ANY sprint car race at Belleville lol (best analogy he made of the night). I think what pissed him off the most was the complete disregard of what we were all literally seeing! We can see the lightning all around - and every weather station was saying 10pm - 10pm - 10pm. And yet he takes an intermission.

On a 2nd thought - I should not be so critical. No it wasn't perfect - mayne not all that great either, but still more than what I woulda saw anywhere else tonight ya know. And generally I enjoy his races. By all rights, since I highlight and criticize when it's not that great.......I should be objective and thank him for all the shows I thought were good. And hope that the track we get friday is good - so we can go into that dumb bye week on a high note wink


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bandit19
June 14, 2009 at 01:33:02 PM
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On the bye week at SFS.........that's the week that the Harley Davidson rally comes to the Fairgrounds. Seems like that would be a perfect night to draw a hugh crowd. Of course parking would be at a premium for the evening.

On the other hand, it will give me a chance to catch the NCRA Late Model show at Brill.

Something else I noticed for the month of June at SFS.....the champs only run one night, this weekend. Personally, both classes of sprints should run every night. JMO



hard head
June 14, 2009 at 01:59:09 PM
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On the bye week at SFS.........that's the week that the Harley Davidson rally comes to the Fairgrounds. Seems like that would be a perfect night to draw a hugh crowd. Of course parking would be at a premium for the evening.

On the other hand, it will give me a chance to catch the NCRA Late Model show at Brill.

Something else I noticed for the month of June at SFS.....the champs only run one night, this weekend. Personally, both classes of sprints should run every night. JMO



I agree 100%, but there is plenty of parking on the south end of the fairgrounds. They don't mind ripping us off last friday night but don't want to take in fans during a golden opportunity like the Harley show right in the front yard. Pretty stupid if you ask me. It seems that some people might be going braindead after too much time in charge.



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And why even bother with the B Feature in the Sport Mods. You've got 7 cars vying for 5 transfer spots. Take all 7 and move the darn program along. I was SOOO dissapointed!!! Hoped to see a night of side-by-side racing or at least some good slide job passes, etc. Thank goodness for the local support show!!! Modified A was probably THE best race of the evening. At the end I was left going "$20, for this?".




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And why even bother with the B Feature in the Sport Mods. You've got 7 cars vying for 5 transfer spots. Take all 7 and move the darn program along. I was SOOO dissapointed!!! Hoped to see a night of side-by-side racing or at least some good slide job passes, etc. Thank goodness for the local support show!!! Modified A was probably THE best race of the evening. At the end I was left going "$20, for this?".



thats exactly how I felt after paying 10$ at Brill back on May 9th. in my not so humble opinion - it was as close to worthless as I can remember seeing.

Yeah the ASCS races were disappointing this weekend - and yup the mods put on a good race (as always). But at least the quality of drivers, the series, and well............basically.........on paper it was gonna be a great show lol. Just a horrid track - and thats become the norm too when ASCS National is in town - it's no coincidence that neither SFS or Lawton will host 1 National Tour point show this year. After the last 2 national shows at SFS (speedweek this year and the May show last year) - I bet National Tour drivers are thankful the Spring Nationals rained out, and are hopeful it is not rescheduled.

I do strongly feel that with 5 decades of experience at it - there is not many excuses for the track to be consistently bad when ASCS is here - and we bite the 20$ bullets. But - then again - I am happy I got to see some sprint car racing this weekend. It wasn't all that bad..........the point I think we all could agree on - was it could/should have been better. It's just unreal how bad they shank the tracks when National Tour is here.....no other way to explain it. or maybe we're just being crybabies about it. I guess it's better to see a fast one groove track than a dry one groove track.

We talk all this crap on SFS show friday - when that was still 500 times better than the OCRS race at Ada a couple weeks ago. Or when tracks get too dry and follow the leader around the bottom.

funk it - done thinkin bout it for the moment. I had a good time this weekend - it is what it is/was. Still glad I went to SFS and Lawton as opposed to anywhere else. Just hope that when the SFS/Lawton Sooner region double comes around - the tracks are better - and ironically, they generally are better for the regional shows tha national shows.....


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And why even bother with the B Feature in the Sport Mods. You've got 7 cars vying for 5 transfer spots. Take all 7 and move the darn program along. I was SOOO dissapointed!!! Hoped to see a night of side-by-side racing or at least some good slide job passes, etc. Thank goodness for the local support show!!! Modified A was probably THE best race of the evening. At the end I was left going "$20, for this?".



Larry you are not the only one that thought the B was stupid in regards to the sport mods. I was sitting with a long time racer of not only sprint cars but micros. He had driven late models back in the old NCRA days. His words were why don't they put the seven in the A and be done with it.

Fan we are all entitled to our opinions and that is what makes this board so good. Although, there are a few on here that think your opinions are gold but that is another story. I have to say the last couple of shows I have been to Brill's has been way better than some of the weekly shows at SFS no matter what the track conditions are as a whole. Mark will if a track needs to be reworked will rework it. Yes, the sprint numbers have been down and from the talk I am hearing that might change next year. We all know you are the world traveler in regards to sprint tracks and we should bow down to you. But, I think if you can prepare a track better go up to Lanny next week and tell him to let you prep it. Can I do any better probably not but hea it is a opinion.

Also, if I am not mistaken for the most part the reason the guys on the ASCS national tour are driving for the car owners they are driving for is because they are the best in that form of driving. Does it suck for us as fan if it is a single lane track, yes but the car owners and drivers are saying cool if they win the A.


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Hey OKC Fan 12,

Get a life. I have sat back and watch you post forever. Just how old are you? You must be a hundred years old judging ftom all of your experience at everything.

All races are good, just some are better than others. The same goes for tracks. I have seen a bunch myself, but I have never seen a bigger authority than you. I have been to Meeker, OSP, Creek County, Outlaw and even the city.

Gedt cars torn up, go to Meeker, Go fast, go to OSP (True, it can get slick), Bullring with some good racing, go CCR, Outlaw, just can;t see the front stretch. SFS has its up and downs with preparation but they always try to put on a good race, just some are better than others, and the fans still come. Stay home if you don't like the track or the racing.

Since you just love Sprints, try other tracks that do not run sprints for a few weeks and than give a fair and balanced opinion, like Fox TV. You are a born critic on everything, but after awhile you really do get obnoxious and boring. I have read your opinions on other sites and the same old crap.

So again, GET A LIFE!!!




hard head
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I heard 2 drivers give their opinions of the track friday night and it wasn't good. They were both ticked off about not being able to race on that track with it being the way it was. Both have extensive time in the seat over the years. Now that's not saying that's the opinion of all the drivers. just 2 of em. I want to see racing. if it was the speed i go for i'd head off to a dragstrip.



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Almost went Friday night then I thought "nahh". After reading Danny Wood's quote in the paper and the comments here certainly glad I didn't. The Stanley Cup game seven proved to be the way to go. I just can't seem to get excited about attending races anymore. Thinking about going to Brill for the NCRA- but who knows?



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Larry you are not the only one that thought the B was stupid in regards to the sport mods. I was sitting with a long time racer of not only sprint cars but micros. He had driven late models back in the old NCRA days. His words were why don't they put the seven in the A and be done with it.

Fan we are all entitled to our opinions and that is what makes this board so good. Although, there are a few on here that think your opinions are gold but that is another story. I have to say the last couple of shows I have been to Brill's has been way better than some of the weekly shows at SFS no matter what the track conditions are as a whole. Mark will if a track needs to be reworked will rework it. Yes, the sprint numbers have been down and from the talk I am hearing that might change next year. We all know you are the world traveler in regards to sprint tracks and we should bow down to you. But, I think if you can prepare a track better go up to Lanny next week and tell him to let you prep it. Can I do any better probably not but hea it is a opinion.

Also, if I am not mistaken for the most part the reason the guys on the ASCS national tour are driving for the car owners they are driving for is because they are the best in that form of driving. Does it suck for us as fan if it is a single lane track, yes but the car owners and drivers are saying cool if they win the A.



thats reasonable. and why I'm trying to - at length - say that even tho the track wasn't great - I had a great time. As with any track - can't get it right every time. My only actual complaint is there always seems to be issues when ASCS National Tour is here. But at least it wasn't terribly rough. I haven't heard that said yet - but.......seriously, good thing it wasn't.

I could help on the track prep though - just hide the water truck! lol. jokin obviously. and wtf man? whats wrong with traveling to different race tracks? It doesn't make anything any different - doesn't make me lesser or more - than say.......someone who goes to the same track every week. I do it in the way I enjoy - as do others.


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Hey OKC Fan 12,

Get a life. I have sat back and watch you post forever. Just how old are you? You must be a hundred years old judging ftom all of your experience at everything.

All races are good, just some are better than others. The same goes for tracks. I have seen a bunch myself, but I have never seen a bigger authority than you. I have been to Meeker, OSP, Creek County, Outlaw and even the city.

Gedt cars torn up, go to Meeker, Go fast, go to OSP (True, it can get slick), Bullring with some good racing, go CCR, Outlaw, just can;t see the front stretch. SFS has its up and downs with preparation but they always try to put on a good race, just some are better than others, and the fans still come. Stay home if you don't like the track or the racing.

Since you just love Sprints, try other tracks that do not run sprints for a few weeks and than give a fair and balanced opinion, like Fox TV. You are a born critic on everything, but after awhile you really do get obnoxious and boring. I have read your opinions on other sites and the same old crap.

So again, GET A LIFE!!!



On the few actual opinions you attempted to share there......

well......not sure what you are trying to say with the different tracks - that everyone doesn't already know. But one thing you are way off on - is I don't like just sprints. I like mods a lot. Think they consistently put someof the best racing anywhere. even at SFS. I like at least checkin out support classes at any track I go to. yeah i like sprints most - but not all I like.

not a born critic on everything - just the shit I see. Everything in this thread - pertains to what I paid to see. You don't have to like it - no one ever said you did. As for the obnoxious, boring or whatever...................

well it was enough to get your ass to post wasn't it? Good for you to get off the bench and join in the discussion - rather than just sit there lingering in the shadows and privately critique and build a f*ckin mental dossier on someone you've never really discussed anything with. Even if for the sake of an insult - good to see you get off the bench wink

The get a life statement falls short. I happen to like mine and the many things involved in it, besides - there's very little been said to warrant anything near that. or wait - f*ck me because sometimes my posts are 7 paragraphs. God forbid you have to actually read the damned thing and think - it was likely more convenient to just linger on here and be entertained every so often when there is a Springer style thread eh? And btw man - Fox TV "fair and balanced"??? please tell me thats sarcasm....i doubt there is a network one that is genuine on that account lol.

Lastly, you have NOT read my opinions on other sites. Hoseheads is all I post on. Once out of the shadows you'll get a much better view wink


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