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Oakland Sprint Fan
May 02, 2009 at 12:11:57 AM
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Where has he been racing? Local 360's in Oregon? I found this on http://www.ibracn.com/

CROCKETT IS HOT - (5-1-09 @ 7:00 pm) - FACT - Who is the hottest driver so far in 2009? You may have to look up in the northwest part of the United States. Roger Crockett has won 5 feature events in a row to start off his 2009 campaign. Not bad at all, especially when you consider that he was released from his ride from the Henderson team late in the year and had to start from scratch. He put together the potent #11 team that is sponsored by Omlid & Sweeney. How long can this streak last? Stay tuned and keep tearing it up Roger.

 

 


  


LindaL
May 02, 2009 at 09:48:05 AM
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Congratulations Roger, that's awesome!

 

 



ShwneeCx11
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May 06, 2009 at 09:25:35 AM
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1) Cottage Grove, OR -360

2) Silver cup (Saturady) Chico, CA

3) Medford, OR-360

4) Grove Classic Night 1 Cottage Grove, OR-360

5) Grove Classic Night 2 Cottage Grove, OR-360

He will try to continue the streak this weekend (Friday and Saturday) in Medford, OR for opening weekend of ASCS Northwest.




mesprint69
May 09, 2009 at 10:00:51 AM
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Posted By: ShwneeCx11 on May 06 2009 at 09:25:35 AM

1) Cottage Grove, OR -360

2) Silver cup (Saturady) Chico, CA

3) Medford, OR-360

4) Grove Classic Night 1 Cottage Grove, OR-360

5) Grove Classic Night 2 Cottage Grove, OR-360

He will try to continue the streak this weekend (Friday and Saturday) in Medford, OR for opening weekend of ASCS Northwest.



Make that 6 in a row. Roger won night one ASCS in Medford last night.



jmcmx16
May 10, 2009 at 01:03:14 PM
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should be 7 in a row. He won Sat night at Medford as well.



Racer41
May 10, 2009 at 01:18:40 PM
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But he was dqed for cheating with an illegal wing, so the streak ends!




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May 10, 2009 at 01:33:36 PM
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Just curious. Did he change wings just before being pushed off for the main? If not how is your wing legal all night but not after the main? What was illegal about it the wing?



mesprint69
May 10, 2009 at 06:48:50 PM
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Posted By: Johns Racing Photos on May 10 2009 at 01:33:36 PM

Just curious. Did he change wings just before being pushed off for the main? If not how is your wing legal all night but not after the main? What was illegal about it the wing?



Nope, no wing change from someone close by in the pits. As a matter of fact, it`s the same front wing he`s been running for weeks. They say it`s got a wickerbill and that made it illegal. Seems to me they should have caught it earlier, so it wouldn`t come to this! A DQ after a great run. Don`t most series have a tech inspection at the first event of the season before they race?



Racer41
May 10, 2009 at 10:31:15 PM
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everyone gets a rule book and everyone should follow it. if ya get caught at the begining of the night or the end of the night its still illegal so it doesn't really matter.




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May 10, 2009 at 10:59:02 PM
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Racer41 - I think your missing the point. A lot of guys run in more than one series and yes believe it or not the rules are different in each series. But to run the entire night (or nights as it appears in this case) without it being mentioned just sounds like sour apples to me. So are they taking away the wins from the previous races? What about his finishes the rest of the weekend?

If that is the stance the series is going to take, then they have some explaining to do as to why they did nothing the rest of the weekend. As you say illegal is illegal and it should have been called at the beginning of the night or even the beginning of the weekend. Come on a wickerbill is not that hard to notice.



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May 11, 2009 at 10:41:30 AM
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This message was edited on May 11, 2009 at 10:42:34 AM by nettersc

We were wondering the same thing Saturday night, John, in Elma when it was announced Crockett had been dq'd. Initially, all we heard was that it was an illegal wing. I talked to Jared Ridge's dad, Randy, later on (Randy builds sprint car wings as an fyi, Ridgerunner Wings), and he then said it was the nose wing (wicker bill deal). Things that make you go hmmmm, lol.....



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May 11, 2009 at 11:10:28 AM
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Looking at photos from PitPrincess.com he definitely has a wickerbill and a dish to the front wing. I posted the rules from the ASCS Northwest site below and the wing would be out of regs according to the rules. So my question stands. Why was he allowed to run with it up until after the main on Saturday before anyone said anything about it or DQ'd the team for it? Just doesn't make sense.

Also, someone help me out were it says no wickerbill for the front wing. Was his wing totally flat because looking at the blue print I do not see were it would be advantagous to put one on it if your wing was not flat. Maybe someone with a better understanding of the purpose of the front wing could explain based on this design.

Front Wing: (see Illustration)

a) Center Foil maximum size of 6 square feet with a maximum width of 36 inches with a one degree plus or minus tolerance.

b) Center Foil shall be fully sheathed in aluminum. No vent holes allowed.

c) No wicker bills or Gurney lips permitted on Center Foil, unless center foil is totally flat then a one-inch wickerbill is allowed.

d) Maximum distance from the Center Foil front edge to the front edge of the front axle may not exceed 20 inches.

e) The Center Foil front edge must remain at least 1 inch behind the front edge of the front bumper. Center Foil top surface from side to side must remain flat.

f) Center Foil must be one piece. No split or bi-wings will be allowed.

g) Wings must be fabricated of metal alloys only. No fiberglass, carbon fiber or other similar material may be used in the basic framework of the wings.

h) The Front Wing must not extend beyond outside of front tires. The Front Wing may not be cockpit or driver adjustable while the car is stationary or in motion.

i) No moving parts allowed on or in foil structure.

j) The 5” section located at the rear of the front foil must not have a bell/curl arc that is out of proportion with the rest of the front foil. As measured on a 5-inch straight edge, the belly at 2 ½ inches from the rear of the foil may not be deeper than 3/8 inch. There is zero tolerance on this 3/8-inch depth. It is suggested that the wing blue print specify 11/32-inch depth, so that if any deflection or movement of the wing occurs, the depth will not exceed the 3/8-inch specification (This 3/8 inch measurement ensures that the belly/curl arc is gradual).

k) The belly/curl arc must span the entire length of the front foil and appear to be a gradual arc with the deepest point, no further back than 12 inches from the leading edge. The belly/curl arc must start at the front foil’s leading edge and shall not exceed a depth of 2 inches. Top foil thickness cannot exceed 3.6 inches.

l) No rudders or fins on Front Wings.




jmcmx16
May 11, 2009 at 11:22:42 AM
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John- It is my understanding that it passed tech all weekend. A disgruntled driver that was beat by Roger made sure to wait and point it out after he won, because of course that is the only way he would not have been victorious.

It was not put on there to cheat, it has been on the car all year long and this was the first ASCS set of races this year. Not everyone carries around the rulebook in their pocket. And yes, it is absolutely visible, so why no one bothered to ask him to remove it at the beginning of the night.. or shit.. beginning of the WEEKEND.. well, I think it speaks for itself. When Roger still kicked everyone ass then there would be nothing to bitch about.. I know its hard to swallow, but catching a so-called 'cheater' that way.. just kinda feels like cheating in its own right.. fair would have been to have it removed before the races started.

Racer41- I know you don't like Roger and love to talk shit.. but come on.. if it was your lil buddy you would be defending it.. so give it a rest already.. I know you have nothing to say about the cheating you have seen and with something like traction control where it actually does matter.. as apposed to a wicker bill on the FRONT wing.. lmao..grow up already.



parks77
May 11, 2009 at 03:32:31 PM
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John- It is my understanding that it passed tech all weekend. A disgruntled driver that was beat by Roger made sure to wait and point it out after he won, because of course that is the only way he would not have been victorious.

It was not put on there to cheat, it has been on the car all year long and this was the first ASCS set of races this year. Not everyone carries around the rulebook in their pocket. And yes, it is absolutely visible, so why no one bothered to ask him to remove it at the beginning of the night.. or shit.. beginning of the WEEKEND.. well, I think it speaks for itself. When Roger still kicked everyone ass then there would be nothing to bitch about.. I know its hard to swallow, but catching a so-called 'cheater' that way.. just kinda feels like cheating in its own right.. fair would have been to have it removed before the races started.

Racer41- I know you don't like Roger and love to talk shit.. but come on.. if it was your lil buddy you would be defending it.. so give it a rest already.. I know you have nothing to say about the cheating you have seen and with something like traction control where it actually does matter.. as apposed to a wicker bill on the FRONT wing.. lmao..grow up already.



crickett could have taken his top wing off and still smoked everyone. bad bad fast.



dirtcar99
May 11, 2009 at 07:07:08 PM
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John- It is my understanding that it passed tech all weekend. A disgruntled driver that was beat by Roger made sure to wait and point it out after he won, because of course that is the only way he would not have been victorious.

It was not put on there to cheat, it has been on the car all year long and this was the first ASCS set of races this year. Not everyone carries around the rulebook in their pocket. And yes, it is absolutely visible, so why no one bothered to ask him to remove it at the beginning of the night.. or shit.. beginning of the WEEKEND.. well, I think it speaks for itself. When Roger still kicked everyone ass then there would be nothing to bitch about.. I know its hard to swallow, but catching a so-called 'cheater' that way.. just kinda feels like cheating in its own right.. fair would have been to have it removed before the races started.

Racer41- I know you don't like Roger and love to talk shit.. but come on.. if it was your lil buddy you would be defending it.. so give it a rest already.. I know you have nothing to say about the cheating you have seen and with something like traction control where it actually does matter.. as apposed to a wicker bill on the FRONT wing.. lmao..grow up already.



I agree with you jmcmx16. Racer41 doesnt like Roger ANYMORE.... When Roger was racing for Silva 57Motorsports he was all over his sak like he his Silvas. Now that he doesnt as soon as something comes up you try and point it out.... If I remember right last year Racer41 posted sprint100s choose not to race at Pville or Chico. Thats why they race at MRP they choose to race their. Where are you guys racing now???????? Are you Racer41 Mcchooluch Racing or however you spell it, still racing in the sprint 100s????? Why havent you guys moved up to 360s???? Give Crockett a break he still kicks butt nomatter were he races.




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I agree Jen. It makes the officials look bad too. Like they said lets see how he does with it rather than tell him to take if off in the first place. Just an all around bad deal that, like I said already, really just sounds like sour apples.

Back to the aero part. Does anyone on here have knowledge of what the wicker bill would do on the front wing? With the dish already there it appears it would provide more down force on the front end, however, it would also lay farther forward than a flat wing and break up the air hitting the top wing more. I was always under the impression that the front wing was as much to help provide a smoother airstream over (rather than under) the main wing as it was for downforce.

 



Shogun00
May 11, 2009 at 09:40:48 PM
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While it is certainly nice to see some spirited conversation on the message board, I hope that we do not lose sight of what Roger has accomplished already. I am talking big picture. The fact he is driving a sprint car this season is truly amazing. A kidney transplant is a bit more than a trip to the dentist. The doctors leave your old kidneys in and form a new pouch for the grafted kidney in your abdomen. What this translates to is painful surgery. Not quite as painful as the surgery that Brian had to go through but still painful. I am sure one of the first orders of business for Roger was regaining his abdominal strength and conditioning. He had to do that while taking quite a few medications. Most of these medications are tough on the stomach. Although new kidney grafts are enjoying a 97% success rate, it is not uncommon for some rejection to set in during the first year. Roger also faces a 15% risk of first-year post-operative infection. Infection and rejection can lead to serious complications and even death. Obviously, Roger is defying those odds as well.

I will assert that Roger will be a better driver this year than he has been in the past few years. When your kidneys are not functioning well, you do not feel good, food does not taste that good, you get tired more often and it is hard to keep focus. I would imagine by the end of the racing season Roger will be even better shape than he is now.

The story about the wing is simply a situation that occurs from time to time. There was a problem with the wing and the officials dealt with it. It is true that different organizations do in different rulebooks and sometimes it is hard to keep track. On the other hand, it is the ultimate responsibility of the team owner and driver to make sure the car is within compliance. I bet that there will be other rules infractions to come. This is not the first time something like this has happened and I do not think we need to let the conversation degrade into personal attacks.

Kerry



Racer41
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This message was edited on May 12, 2009 at 01:38:30 AM by Racer41

dirt im not going to argue with you its pointless, i realy dont care what ya think. but fyi we are in the process. either way ya don't have a clue what your talkin about. im still friends with everyone. jc you just cant leave the past in the past. tc talk is funny because she knows who bought it and used it haha. its a dead horse let it be. maybe i was harsh with my comments, but rc has raced too long to not follow the rules. remember he got dqed last season for illegal heads, thsi year for wings. your right he could still win without them, so jsut follow the rules.

either way the officials dropped the ball big time. but you still have to know whats legal and not legal on your car, especially when you run multiple series. did the nose wing make a difference i doubt it. but it for sure the guy who ran second with legal stuff, it is his right to object.

bad deal either way.

as far as having a rule book with us, we do and we follow it.


kerry how have you been. how is az treating you?




ShwneeCx11
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May 12, 2009 at 05:05:21 PM
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Your all in luck. For all of those interested in hearing more about this weekends events and what exactly happened. You may tune in to racinboys.com @5:45pm PST where Roger Crockett will be interviewed.

 

 



Positive Nic
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This message was edited on May 13, 2009 at 01:00:15 PM by Positive Nic
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Posted By: dirtcar99 on May 11 2009 at 07:07:08 PM

I agree with you jmcmx16. Racer41 doesnt like Roger ANYMORE.... When Roger was racing for Silva 57Motorsports he was all over his sak like he his Silvas. Now that he doesnt as soon as something comes up you try and point it out.... If I remember right last year Racer41 posted sprint100s choose not to race at Pville or Chico. Thats why they race at MRP they choose to race their. Where are you guys racing now???????? Are you Racer41 Mcchooluch Racing or however you spell it, still racing in the sprint 100s????? Why havent you guys moved up to 360s???? Give Crockett a break he still kicks butt nomatter were he races.



NEGATIVE NIC is BACK! We should have known he couldn't stay positive. Hey we have to remember NEGATIVE NIC knows everything about racing. Isn't he a SPRINT 100 Champion? We all know NEGATIVE NIC raced against 6 or 8 cars In the sprint 100 series - a very tough series LOL . If Roger was runnning sprint 100s he couldnt win without cheating. Now let's give NEGATIVE NIC some positive credit here. LOL Oh and let not forget when he ran outlaw karts, he always made the C or D main and the reason for that there were 30 plus cars a night not like the sprint 100 series. When you see NEGATIVE NIC at the races say "Hello NEGATIVE NIC" we need to call him by his real name. LOL remember he said he's still friends with everyone. He may not cheat but I think he lies. Hey Roger are u still friends with NEGATIVE. NIC? And I'm sure Robbie is his good friend too. Remember all the nice stuff he wrote a year ago? See ya at the races NEGATIVE NIC and if you got that 360 sprint car my money is on you. I know you can beat Becker, Moore, Trulli, Humphrey, Weisz, Forsberg, Decaires, Kinney, Sweeney, Mendes, Mcmahon,Russell, Klien, and many more. You are the man! LOL oh yeah and Crockett too.



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