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November 11, 2008 at
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Heard Parsons is parking the Casey's General Store car and Paul McMahon is once again in search of a ride
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November 11, 2008 at
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If that is true that really sucks for Paul. when he got there that car was just a also ran. he started to get some real good runs in it there toward the end of the year. I don't think he missed a show once he got in it. Well hope he finds a good ride he is one of the guys that gets no press but just goes out and get the job done with what he has. AKA the 0,13,121,51 are some of the cars he drove this year. Hey Tony maybe you should put him back in the 20.
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November 11, 2008 at
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Tim Shaffer avg. A Feature finish in Lon Parsons No. 6 - 14th
Paul McMahan avg. A Feature finish in the Lon Parsons No. 6 - 12th
The last five finishes to close out the season: 7th, 11th, 19th, 14th, (and then which is ironic) 13th.
Hope the best works out for Lon in whatever he does with the team.
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November 12, 2008 at
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I don't see why it needs parked just cause it isn't funded well enough to compete with the entire outlaw schedule. Why can't he just run a bunch of local shows. there is probably more to it but thats jmo.
-Austin Rankin
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November 12, 2008 at
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From what Tim and Paul have both told me in the past, this car was funded as much or more than any team on the circuit.
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November 12, 2008 at
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Exactly how many WOO feature wins has Mcmahon had for all the terrible Outlaw rides he has been in ?
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November 12, 2008 at
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Posted By: raeccrash778 on November 12 2008 at 03:29:46 PM
Exactly how many WOO feature wins has Mcmahon had for all the terrible Outlaw rides he has been in ?
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64 total wins
3 AllStar
5 Gumout
2 WoO Prelims
7 WoO Features
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November 12, 2008 at
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might be well funded but the truck and trailer racecar the few times I seen it was alway dirty and looked like nothing was taking care of JMO
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November 12, 2008 at
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This gets brought up every year, and come the next season, the 6 is still around. I'll bet it will still be with the WoO in 2009. JMO
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November 12, 2008 at
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put the #6 AND Mchahan on the ASCS tour and see what happens. i bet they would be front runners for sure every night. and with they money they would be saving run a 2nd team too or send one to knoxville.
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November 13, 2008 at
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Posted By: outlaw_fan_7_8 on November 12 2008 at 10:59:51 PM
put the #6 AND Mchahan on the ASCS tour and see what happens. i bet they would be front runners for sure every night. and with they money they would be saving run a 2nd team too or send one to knoxville.
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Sorry, but I don't see the ASCS deal saving anyone a lot of money....
Travel costs - depending on the schedule, they'll drop slightly, but you've still got to pay for fuel for the rig, buy the rig, and pay the crew/crew chief. But I don't see a whole loy of savings here...
Equipment costs - other than 360 motor rebuilds, everything will most likely stay rhe same. Tires, cars, rear ends, and the like will not cost less to run in a 360 show. Teams will still bolt on new tires when they need them
And while the purse to win is $6K, the payoff for 24th is $500. But fans. at least for now, don't turn out in the numbers to support 360's that they do for a touring 410 show. And unless the ASCS gets some names to commit to a full schedule(which hasn't been published yet, by the way), I don't see a lot of tracks booking races. I'm sure some promoters are taking a "wait and see" perspective - and let's face it, promoters do talk to each other. A few "bad" shows early in the year can potentially muddy the waters for the whole deal...
Chuck.....
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November 13, 2008 at
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ya i see your point but the ASCS didn't p*ss off almost 90% of the drivers/crews at some point in 08. so that COULD be a factor into what happens in 09 too.
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November 13, 2008 at
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Sprinter 25 good post. I wonder if someone can tell us how much it costs to freshen a 360 vs. a 410? At one of the big name moter builders. Wesmar are you out there?
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November 13, 2008 at
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Posted By: sprintfan0 on November 13 2008 at 11:18:24 AM
Sprinter 25 good post. I wonder if someone can tell us how much it costs to freshen a 360 vs. a 410? At one of the big name moter builders. Wesmar are you out there?
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My average for the year - 2006.
410 = 8 nights - $5,500
360= 16 nights - $3,500
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November 13, 2008 at
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Posted By: outlaw_fan_7_8 on November 13 2008 at 10:22:15 AM
ya i see your point but the ASCS didn't p*ss off almost 90% of the drivers/crews at some point in 08. so that COULD be a factor into what happens in 09 too.
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Pissing off people or not, the money always wins out. Most ALL the drivers running the ASCS would much rather be running the WOO tour if they could get a quality ride.For now the ASCS is still viewed as a training wheels series.
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November 13, 2008 at
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Posted By: sprintman11 on November 12 2008 at 06:36:41 PM
This gets brought up every year, and come the next season, the 6 is still around. I'll bet it will still be with the WoO in 2009. JMO
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Lonnie's got to be 67 or so, survived a blatant attack by a crazed WoO official driving a water truck...
Maybe he's f-ing tired!
Whatever the case, Don and Lonnie are two of the VERY best this sport has to offer!!!
"As long as I can have a fast boat, a margarita
machine and can light my hair on fire, I'll be just
fine."
Jason Giambi
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November 13, 2008 at
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Posted By: sprinter25 on November 13 2008 at 07:21:27 AM
Sorry, but I don't see the ASCS deal saving anyone a lot of money....
Travel costs - depending on the schedule, they'll drop slightly, but you've still got to pay for fuel for the rig, buy the rig, and pay the crew/crew chief. But I don't see a whole loy of savings here...
Equipment costs - other than 360 motor rebuilds, everything will most likely stay rhe same. Tires, cars, rear ends, and the like will not cost less to run in a 360 show. Teams will still bolt on new tires when they need them
And while the purse to win is $6K, the payoff for 24th is $500. But fans. at least for now, don't turn out in the numbers to support 360's that they do for a touring 410 show. And unless the ASCS gets some names to commit to a full schedule(which hasn't been published yet, by the way), I don't see a lot of tracks booking races. I'm sure some promoters are taking a "wait and see" perspective - and let's face it, promoters do talk to each other. A few "bad" shows early in the year can potentially muddy the waters for the whole deal...
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ASCS not saving money?
The ONLY way you wouldn't save a TON of money racing ASCS is if you live on the Eastern or Western seaboard. If you live anywhere from Colorado to Tennessee or Texas to North Dakota, most races are within a 6-12 hour drive from home. Outside of those areas, you'll have a little more travel expense but you'll still be at home more often and spend less on the road.
ASCS - home every week (a couple of times per year you're out on the road for 2 weeks at a time).
WoO - home every couple of weeks (if lucky) so you're paying for the "crew" to be away from home; fuel, entertainment, etc.
ASCS - rebuilds every 20-25 nights on a good quality motor. (some top runners have ran a motor as many as 35 nights)
WoO - rebuild every 6-10 nights depending on engine/track/builder/etc.
ASCS - RR tire rule.
WoO - Open tires, you have to have an inventory of tires at all times.
ASCS - Weight rule
WoO - No weight rule, build em' as light and as expensive as you can!
ASCS - 40 race schedule, usually off 2 times per month.
WoO - TOO MANY! The more races, the more money you lose, like it or not!
ASCS - $30,000 brand new engine, pan to injectors
WoO - Are they over $50,000 yet or are they still in the $40's?
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November 13, 2008 at
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@CBGarage - The WoO does indeed have a weight rule. Nice unbiased, totally factual post there... 
Phil Taylor
home-theater-systems-advice.com
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November 13, 2008 at
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November 13, 2008 at
04:59:16 PM by jholz2002
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Posted By: CBGarage on November 13 2008 at 03:00:47 PM
ASCS not saving money?
The ONLY way you wouldn't save a TON of money racing ASCS is if you live on the Eastern or Western seaboard. If you live anywhere from Colorado to Tennessee or Texas to North Dakota, most races are within a 6-12 hour drive from home. Outside of those areas, you'll have a little more travel expense but you'll still be at home more often and spend less on the road.
ASCS - home every week (a couple of times per year you're out on the road for 2 weeks at a time).
WoO - home every couple of weeks (if lucky) so you're paying for the "crew" to be away from home; fuel, entertainment, etc.
ASCS - rebuilds every 20-25 nights on a good quality motor. (some top runners have ran a motor as many as 35 nights)
WoO - rebuild every 6-10 nights depending on engine/track/builder/etc.
ASCS - RR tire rule.
WoO - Open tires, you have to have an inventory of tires at all times.
ASCS - Weight rule
WoO - No weight rule, build em' as light and as expensive as you can!
ASCS - 40 race schedule, usually off 2 times per month.
WoO - TOO MANY! The more races, the more money you lose, like it or not!
ASCS - $30,000 brand new engine, pan to injectors
WoO - Are they over $50,000 yet or are they still in the $40's?
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WoO has had a weight rule for quite a few years now. Where have you been?
WoO Rule Book
Rule 1.5 Weight: All racecars must weigh a minimum of 1,375 pounds as measured on the official WoO scales with fully suited driver in the car throughout the event.
ASCS Rule Book
Chassis Specs Weight Rule: Weight rule is 1,475 pounds., including the driver, at the conclusion of each race. Not a huge difference.
I do agree with everything else in your post though.
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November 13, 2008 at
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Reply to:
Posted By: CBGarage on November 13 2008 at 03:00:47 PM
ASCS not saving money?
The ONLY way you wouldn't save a TON of money racing ASCS is if you live on the Eastern or Western seaboard. If you live anywhere from Colorado to Tennessee or Texas to North Dakota, most races are within a 6-12 hour drive from home. Outside of those areas, you'll have a little more travel expense but you'll still be at home more often and spend less on the road.
ASCS - home every week (a couple of times per year you're out on the road for 2 weeks at a time).
WoO - home every couple of weeks (if lucky) so you're paying for the "crew" to be away from home; fuel, entertainment, etc.
ASCS - rebuilds every 20-25 nights on a good quality motor. (some top runners have ran a motor as many as 35 nights)
WoO - rebuild every 6-10 nights depending on engine/track/builder/etc.
ASCS - RR tire rule.
WoO - Open tires, you have to have an inventory of tires at all times.
ASCS - Weight rule
WoO - No weight rule, build em' as light and as expensive as you can!
ASCS - 40 race schedule, usually off 2 times per month.
WoO - TOO MANY! The more races, the more money you lose, like it or not!
ASCS - $30,000 brand new engine, pan to injectors
WoO - Are they over $50,000 yet or are they still in the $40's?
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I know a guy who bought a brand new 360 for $15,000, dynos at 710 hp to the rear wheels. I think the 410's are more like $20-$25,000. And the northeast has a good 360 program, between the ASCS Patriots, ESS, URC, Southern Ontario Sprints, ASCS Sprints on Dirt (mostly in Michigan and Ontario), weekly sprints at Ohsweken Speedway in Ontario and the Sprint Cars of New England in New Hampshire. I think by Eastern Seabord you mean Pennsylvania and Ohio, cause with about 30 360 races a year vs. only 3 410 races a year(all WoO) you sure as hell don't mean New York.
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