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September 09, 2008 at
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What issue concerns you the most?
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Economy |
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Iraq/Iran |
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Americas Reputation |
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Immigration |
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I was only allowed 8 options. If there is something else that is more important to you, please post it.
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September 10, 2008 at
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September 10, 2008 at
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I am really concerned with the illegal alien horde. I refuse to call that immigration. It isn't.
The Dallas Morning News (the main newspaper in Dallas) once a week throws a sample newspaper - and it is ENTIRELY IN SPANISH. On TV they show 1st graders learning Spanish - which is fine - but they never talk about teaching English. Teachers now have to be bi-lingual. I don't know what the Asian and European immigrants do. Oh yes - they learn English. I know we have a large Russian community here - and they learned English. Then there are all of the illegal alien babies that our hospitals have to deliver - at tax payers expense. You might have heard that our County Hospital (Parkland - where they took Kennedy) tried to send a bill to Mexico for thousands of dollars for treatment of the illegal Mexicans... but the State intercepted it.
Sorry. I'll get off of my soap box - but it is really a problem in the border states... and just like fire ants - they're making their way North. Beware.....
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September 10, 2008 at
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Religion Gay Legislation Gun Control Abortion
these are just some of the wedge issues. issues that divide - and create animoisity. there are more - even foreign policy and security have been turned into wedge issues - honestly because of the religious fanatics - both sides. there really isnt much difference between a neo-con and a radical muslim. except the color of skin, the size of the house, the car, and how much money they have. both are religious fanatics. everyone should leave religion out of politics imho - maybe not completely - but one look at bush and the entire red party should make a strong case of why to leave it out. even Sarah Palin is good example. with the comments made about iraq being a mission from god. btw - you neo-cons - or better swing voters - should take a look at her ties with secessionists in her own state. pretty interesting. or is actually questioning the things that matter a part of liberal media bias too?
if folks cant at least consider looking beyond wedge issues. then at least pick up a history book. history tells us what happens. it really does hold true that "those who forget the past, are condemned to repeat it". truer words have never been spoken. the large rift developing because of the reds clinging to wedge issues ---- is going to have the most dire of consequences.
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September 10, 2008 at
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I'm a conservative and a politician's stand on abortion is very important to me, but it's not a litmus test...
I don't know what a "neo-con" is, but to say there isn't much difference between them and a "radical muslim" is hard for me to understand. Radical Muslims killed over 3,000 people in New York city in one day by slitting the throats of American pilots and flying planes into buildings where innocent civilians were doing life. Of course, all of that isn't true if you are a conspiracy theorist.
I agree, let's not forget the past...just a few years ago, America was attacked by radical Islamic extremists and by their own admission, not George Bush's or any other Republican's, by their own admission they are not done yet. I don't care if it's a Democrat or a Republican, we need a strong military and a leader who isn't afraid that there is such a thing as evil in the world, right and wrong. In the words of Darryl Worley...
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
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September 10, 2008 at
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yeah just what we need, another commander in cheif that loves to flex his 'military' muscle to the world....that has gotten us far in the last 8 years.
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September 10, 2008 at
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Immigration into this country should have been stopped about 400 years ago at Plymouth Rock.
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September 10, 2008 at
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Posted By: cheroger on September 10 2008 at 10:09:08 AM
Immigration into this country should have been stopped about 400 years ago at Plymouth Rock.
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September 10, 2008 at
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Posted By: miledirtfan on September 10 2008 at 06:11:57 AM
I'm a conservative and a politician's stand on abortion is very important to me, but it's not a litmus test...
I don't know what a "neo-con" is, but to say there isn't much difference between them and a "radical muslim" is hard for me to understand. Radical Muslims killed over 3,000 people in New York city in one day by slitting the throats of American pilots and flying planes into buildings where innocent civilians were doing life. Of course, all of that isn't true if you are a conspiracy theorist.
I agree, let's not forget the past...just a few years ago, America was attacked by radical Islamic extremists and by their own admission, not George Bush's or any other Republican's, by their own admission they are not done yet. I don't care if it's a Democrat or a Republican, we need a strong military and a leader who isn't afraid that there is such a thing as evil in the world, right and wrong. In the words of Darryl Worley...
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?
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and how many innocent muslims have we killed in the middle east. not just with war - but with political sanctions. the only difference - is americans could give 2 shits less about lives lost - well - anywhere. we prove that consistently - no matter the fine speeches given afterwards.
its sad to see that kind of stuff invoked - although i do not doubt your motives in invoking it. our response to that day was pathetic - i'm not talking about soldiers. our politicians have handcuffed them at every turn. even going as far as to systematically torture and then when it becomes public - those who were just following orders are served up. you invoke some little catchy poem? does that justify the CAMPAIGN and LIES to get public support behind an iraqi invasion? there was no reason at the time to question it i know ----- but when CIA Agents are outed because their husbands tell the truth and didnt LIE ------- what do you call that? honoring dead heroes? more like honoring dead presidents ($$$$$$$$$$$$$)
our response has been to destroy ourselves from the inside out. keep up your consumer responsibilites - while the most corrupt administration in the history of this country keeps spinning the truth - and turning the presidency into an untouchable monarchy (executive priveledge) - and sacrifice your basic civil liberties - as if you can trust your government not to abuse spying on its own citizens - nevermind the true aim of that is not to fight terrorism - they need that to keep the fear - the true aim is to silence organized homegrown opposition - or any opposition - to the construction of a global empire in which your level of involvement depends on your tax bracket. dollar still plunges, debt still grows, oil still rises. even climate change is ignored - so that the ice can melt - open up new passage ways and shipping routes, cheaper cheaper cheaper cheaper is the word right? thats the untouchable reason why we sacrifice our jobs to buy something for 2 cents less - while at the same time feeding a communist superpower that will only use more oil - unlike us trying to use less. another advantage to ignoring climate change - ice melting opens up new oil exploration. they are chomping at the bit while we speak. and also - how do you make fighting terrorism a priority - attemtping to start wars all over the place ---- but yet - Juan and his 46 relatives can cross the border back and forth at will? that should be the piece that makes the rest of the cards fall - if people had a collective common sense.
these are just very inconvenient truths. not to be catchy, but they are. to recognize them for what they are - is to KNOW and ADMIT that we are spiraling downwards in many ways. and that doesnt fit in very well with the life we try to make as convenient as possible.
its funny - how what so many consider patriotic ----- is actually treason. how much do we really care about the world we leave to our kids - and their kids. its just to inconvenient to try and do anything in advance. far easier to lay it off on those who care much more about short term power - than they do long term stability. in some ways isnt that the american dream? we are obsessed with the one in a million chances ------- and ignoring all that truly matters. capitalism at its finest. we dont care about the long term. we think as long as we are fighting islam - we are doing god's good deed. making the world safer. in reality - while focusing on security - we have failed the economy horribly - hence destroying ourselves from within - although both issues kind of go hand in hand - we've even failed in security/war or terror ------- as US labeled terrorist groups are running entire countries right now. why is it considered unpatriotic to question the things we do? to even start to admit - that people dont hate us for our freedoms (we lose more everyday) ------ that they may actually have some reasons to hate us? its hard to think we're not already screwed - when as a nation we seem to think we can absolutely do no wrong. but folks ignore that too - because the surge is working right lol? or is working because we are paying al-sadr off. and others too.
for all those who think i am wrong - i hope i am too. but i fear that i am not.
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September 10, 2008 at
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Posted By: cheroger on September 10 2008 at 10:09:08 AM
Immigration into this country should have been stopped about 400 years ago at Plymouth Rock.
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September 10, 2008 at
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OKCFan,
It's not a matter of fighting Islalm or Muslims. I have many friends who are Muslim. They don't hate America or Israel. They practice their religion in a peaceable way, just as do most Christians.
This is about radical Islam that has made it very clear, their aim is the complete destruction of America and Israel and Western allies such as Great Britain. America, "being nice" to people like Bin Laden so that they might like us is not the answer.
I would say that the war was based upon the lack of and/or bad intelligence. You believe it was lies. You may be right, I don't know... but what I do know is that we weren't fighting in the Middle East until after radical Islam attacked us on our soil.
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September 10, 2008 at
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You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.
BUT....
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.
That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days?
We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a start.
AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public seems to feel comfortable with this and is campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are OK with this for the President of the United States of America?
This job is not a journey of personal discovery, it is the presidency of the United States!
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol.
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September 10, 2008 at
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yawn yawn yawn, post it moveon.org please!!!!
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Posted By: nodust on September 10 2008 at 11:13:01 AM
You couldn't get a job at McDonalds and become district manager after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't become chief of surgery after 143 days of experience of being a surgeon.
You couldn't get a job as a teacher and be the superintendent after 143 days of experience.
You couldn't join the military and become a colonel after a 143 days of experience.
You couldn't get a job as a reporter and become the nightly news anchor after 143 days of experience.
BUT....
From the time Barack Obama was sworn in as a United State Senator, to the time he announced he was forming a Presidential exploratory committee, he logged 143 days of experience in the Senate.
That's how many days the Senate was actually in session and working. After 143 days of work experience, Obama believed he was ready to be Commander In Chief, Leader of the Free World, and fill the shoes of Abraham Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Ronald Reagan. 143 days?
We all have to start somewhere. The senate is a good start, but after 143 days, that's all it is - a start.
AND, strangely, a large sector of the American public seems to feel comfortable with this and is campaigning for him. We wouldn't accept this in our own line of work, yet some are OK with this for the President of the United States of America?
This job is not a journey of personal discovery, it is the presidency of the United States!
Come on folks, we are not voting for the next American Idol.
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Once again, Duane is incapable of posting a thought of his own. He's just another sheep being led to slaughter because he believes everything Rush the Lush and Sean "Your a great American" Hannity tells him.
Do yourself a favor and pick up a book or visit your own gorvernment's websites and learn something, instead of cutting and pasteing emails that do not tell the whole story.
There have been many great, past presidents who had little to no executive experience. We now have a president with executive experience and look at the clusterf__k he's gotten this country into. So, what is the point of your post Duane?
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OKC - when is your dead beat @ss going to PAY UP on your bet?
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September 10, 2008 at
09:08:53 PM by Rogue-9
To anyone who finds abortion the #1 issue: just so you know even if Roe v. Wade gets overturned, it won't make abortions illegal in the U.S. It will only allow the state's to make their own decision. Thus, in reality at most only half the state's would make abortions illegal, if that. The effect on the number of abortions in the U.S. would be minimal. If you really want an abortion, you will just have to travel a few more states away to get one, unless you are already in a state that allows them. In most of the states that would make them illegal abortions are so frowned upon that I would expect that even today they would account for a very small percentage of abortions today. I would expect Obama's healthcare plan to have a greater decreasing effect on abortions than an overturning of Roe v. Wade would have. The only way to completely illegalize abortions would be to amend the constitution. Since that requires a 3/4 vote in congress, that ain't happening this century. So I'm sorry, but you're stuck with abortions even if Roe v. Wade is overturned.
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September 10, 2008 at
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Why are abortions even a political issue? Anybody that votes based on that should have their privliges revoked!!!
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Posted By: Midwest Race Fan on September 10 2008 at 09:41:33 PM
Why are abortions even a political issue? Anybody that votes based on that should have their privliges revoked!!!
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Agreed!
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Posted By: magicman on September 10 2008 at 07:39:46 AM
yeah just what we need, another commander in cheif that loves to flex his 'military' muscle to the world....that has gotten us far in the last 8 years.
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I would recommend listening to McCain's convention speech and then you might be educated on how he feels about flexing military muscle.
From someone who knows better than anyone else possibly can I believe he said "I hate war, it is terrible beyond imagination."
Based on what he's been through I believe him.
For those who say they haven't heard McCain speak on the issues you can read the entire convention speech at the site below and educate yourselves. Seems he hits many of them there (at least the most important ones to most Americans) Many people on these boards sound like morons spouting off BS they heard on MSNBC or on a commercial but didn't take the time to research the actual facts.
By the way the biggest issue to everyone should be energy (not on the list at all???). Because the reality is that the energy crisis has a huge effect on both the econony and national security. Being energy independant brings with it a tidal wave of economic improvement and national security. But hey, let's not drill for oil here, we would have to knock down a few trees or kill a couple squirrels and do perilous harm to mother nature right...that would be just terrible.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/04/excerpts-from-john-mccains-convention-speech/
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Posted By: Jamie Klootwyk on September 10 2008 at 10:08:11 PM
I would recommend listening to McCain's convention speech and then you might be educated on how he feels about flexing military muscle.
From someone who knows better than anyone else possibly can I believe he said "I hate war, it is terrible beyond imagination."
Based on what he's been through I believe him.
For those who say they haven't heard McCain speak on the issues you can read the entire convention speech at the site below and educate yourselves. Seems he hits many of them there (at least the most important ones to most Americans) Many people on these boards sound like morons spouting off BS they heard on MSNBC or on a commercial but didn't take the time to research the actual facts.
By the way the biggest issue to everyone should be energy (not on the list at all???). Because the reality is that the energy crisis has a huge effect on both the econony and national security. Being energy independant brings with it a tidal wave of economic improvement and national security. But hey, let's not drill for oil here, we would have to knock down a few trees or kill a couple squirrels and do perilous harm to mother nature right...that would be just terrible.
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/09/04/excerpts-from-john-mccains-convention-speech/
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If the US dollar were worth a whole dollar, you would see an instant decrease in the cost of most goods by 30%.
The biggest lie in politics today is that there is a shortage of oil. It's just not true.
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