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I wasnt at Knox, but, I thought I heard Meyers finish on thursday was DQed? for too thin wall thickness of tubing on the chassis? , any truth to that or just a bad rumor ? if so, shoudnt the car be teched prior to the nights events? , also did they switch cars(chassis ) prior to Saturday if deemed illegal Thursday , Im not trying to start anything here I am just curious if it wasnt reported,(I havent looked really close yet ) I wish the 14 could have held on for the "W", maybe next year !

I was told that the mid rail in the roll cage (the bar that the top of the nerf bar mounts to) was .065 instead of .083 wall thickness. A couple of other racers running the kpc chassis had to sign some sort of a waiver to run at Kville the weekend before to run the chassis how they were and there weren't any disqualifications at the 360 nats. Roger Crockett and Toni Lutar both have Kpc and they weren't dq'ed so I doubt Meyers was. I wasn't at the 410 nats but I know for a fact that happened at the 360 nats Saturday night show...

If he was DQ'ed on Thursday there is NO WAY he would have had enough points to start on the front row of Saturday's A main.

All cars are teched before they hit the track at Knoxville. If there was a problem with wall thickness the car would not have been approved for competition. Period the end.

Somebody needs to check this one out. Enter "conspiracy theory" or "urban legend" and see what comes up!

Here is what I know.
Below is a image of the frame spec from the rule book.
The bar that is labeled "This Bar" was .065 on all the kpc chassis. The rule specifically states that the bar is suppose to be .083. I was told that they were allowed to run because the manufacturer did not mean to use .065 on that bar. They also said that it was not a performance enhancing modification.

My Signature

Did not mean to use .065 on that bar...lol?

But then again, judging by that diagram everyone is running their front axles in the wrong spot as well...lol.

 
 
 
They don't even know how to spell sprint car 
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com

Oh its a new trick design you just let the cat out the bag. LOL they better watch out my rides going to the front this week

lol , ya, I never noticed the front axle in the diagram,

I guess I do recall the tech officials (sonic?) testing that portion of my car , thanks for the feedback

from what i know of the deal is Jason's are one of a kind.

if you buy a KPC it is a little different.

     It's nice to see that it works both ways with the officials, and the racers. The only problem is that when you are a racer, and you are able to read the rule book, and think outside the box, it's called cheating. While on the other hand when the officials create their own rules , but chose not to use them, you only need to sign a waiver. It is a FACT that the car in question, had the wrong tubing wall thickness on Friday before they ran the A scramble. The officials, chose not to have balls enough to either have the tubing replaced or DQ the car, I even called one of the officials Saturday to inquire what they were planning on doing concerning the car in question. That official said nothing was going to happen, and that in the past they told people to repair the problem before bringing the car back to the track. Their policy must have changed, since they required me to replace my mufflers at the track a couple of years ago.

      Regardless of the results, the people that work at Knoxville are by far the nicest people at any race track I have raced at in 30 years. Cappy, thanks for all you have done for racing, and Long Live the King.

I thought that is what I understood , a KPC was different from Meyers chassis but same people involved , if Moly tubing can vary that much (+or-%) shouldnt we have found cars earlier within tolerance specified ? , maybe a little restoration of rules is in order , or simply go or no go? reguarless the tubing could have been a cast 6" sewer pipe on Meyers car and he still would have been fast

"Didn't matter, I still kicked his butt"....D.Schatz

At least it wasn't a taped on bar...err...weight, where officials had to scramble to "improvise" on a rule.

"Much ado about nothing" ...that Shakespear guy.

Cars at 360 nats weren't DQ'd cuz its an ascs sanctioned race so ascs officials and cappy let it go after a 30 min. discussion and the signed waivers...Crockett also was talked to and I assume he signed a waiver...everyone was told not to bring those cars back next year...Meyers car was rolled through tech and stickered by outlaw officials b4 the tubing was checked...then the officials checked the tubing...some of the race committee didn't know about this infraction until after the Saturday night show.

"There is no statute of limitations on being a 
jackass!!"

Jason and his car owner own the design rigths to the chassis. Steve Kent builds them.

Roger Crockett drives one also for Henderson Motorsports. he flipped six or seven times at the

Nationals and it held up pretty good from what i saw on the broadcast.

I don't believe aircraft materials have a +or- 10% tolerance but............083 x 90% = .0747

From what I understand it is a safety deal so that the nerf bar - if hit hard enough and at the wrong angle - doesn't break/penetrate that particular area of tubing and enter the driver's compartment like a spear.

Phil Taylor

home-theater-systems-advice.com

Rules have always been fluid........... prolly always will be, too.

Too bad everyone goes by what they heard. About the only post on here that is correct is the printout of the tubing specs. Unless one of you is Jason or a part of his team or an outlaw official you have no idea what really went down. Gossip is a very ugly thing and someday it will bite you too!

One thing that you folks seem to be missing. Nowhere did I see that the listed wall thicknesses are REQUIRED, so no rules were broken.

Per the Knoxville rules:

· BOTTOM RAILS: 13/8" x .095 or 11/2" x .083· ROLL CAGE UPRIGHTS: 13/8" x .083· ROLL CAGE TOP CROSS MEMBERS: 11/2" x .095· UPPER RAILS: 13/8" x .083· REAR END SAFETY BAR (mandatory): 1" x .083 or 11/4" x .065· BRACE: 11/4" x .065