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YungWun24
March 01, 2024 at 10:19:25 AM
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If it's a support class, I want it to be a 360 winged, a midget, or something topless. 

I understand why they're running late mods along with sprint cars in these new areas, if we're considering late models a support class. 


Keep It Real


Dryslick Willie
March 01, 2024 at 11:03:08 AM
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Midgets or non wing sprints.   No late models, stocks, or modifieds.   



saphead
March 01, 2024 at 11:13:32 AM
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I can deal with just about anything but an E-mod. 




dsc1600
March 01, 2024 at 12:30:56 PM
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Something that will widen the track and not take too long. Any division that is unprofessional in that they crash all the time doesn't belong on a card with a top series. But if the field is smaller than 40 cars you need a support division for track prep above all else. 



revjimk
March 01, 2024 at 01:08:15 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on March 01 2024 at 11:03:08 AM

Midgets or non wing sprints.   No late models, stocks, or modifieds.   



Agreed. I kinda like micro-sprints too



WingedSpeed
March 01, 2024 at 01:27:00 PM
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Posted By: saphead on March 01 2024 at 11:13:32 AM

I can deal with just about anything but an E-mod. 



Agree 100%.  Them things are so boring to watch.




cheroger
March 01, 2024 at 01:30:02 PM
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For races with 4 or more heats, there should only be one support class, limited to two heat races only, preferably open wheel cars.  

For races with 3 or less heats, there should still only be one support class, limited to 3 or 4 heats.

Under no circumstance, should there be more than one support class.



Parnelli1970
March 01, 2024 at 01:35:00 PM
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No Legends especially when there's over 40 of them. It's like track lice.



saphead
March 01, 2024 at 02:08:45 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on March 01 2024 at 01:27:00 PM

Agree 100%.  Them things are so boring to watch.



I honestly am starting to think there is an inherent design flaw in the American dirt track Econo-Modified.

They swap ends way too easily. Or maybe the drivers are just terrible and it's too much for them to handle.




JVan
March 01, 2024 at 02:40:13 PM
Joined: 11/08/2006
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Midgets, micro-sprints and dwarf cars are my favorite supporting classes as long as they are run quickly. At my local track all the classes are run in a very efficient way, so they are actually enjoyable. 



Parnelli1970
March 01, 2024 at 03:04:22 PM
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Posted By: saphead on March 01 2024 at 02:08:45 PM

I honestly am starting to think there is an inherent design flaw in the American dirt track Econo-Modified.

They swap ends way too easily. Or maybe the drivers are just terrible and it's too much for them to handle.



Skinny tires 



beezr2002
March 01, 2024 at 05:43:46 PM
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I don't care much for some support divisions. But if they have less than twenty cars, don't dig into the track, have two quick heats, and one short feature I'm okay with about anything. I'm also in favor of setting time limits for support division races. Support divisions can be beneficial when used properly.




Murphy
March 01, 2024 at 08:04:46 PM
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Posted By: saphead on March 01 2024 at 02:08:45 PM

I honestly am starting to think there is an inherent design flaw in the American dirt track Econo-Modified.

They swap ends way too easily. Or maybe the drivers are just terrible and it's too much for them to handle.



I'm not a fan of Econo-mod / Sportmod / E-mod / B-mod / Etc. limited modifieds. I'm proud to be a sprint car zombie.

However, I do know some guys that are fender racers and gear heads. One of them explained it well to me. He said that the late model and modified racers have developed their cars so that the suspension made the cars twist and stand up sort of funky so that they got more bite in the corners. With sophisticated equipment and seasoned drivers, it made the cars faster. The same thing has kind of trickled down to the B-mods. The problem is, limiting rules, lower budgets, and entry level drivers means the cars are too much for most racers to handle without spinning out. And spinning out and spinning out. I saw a B-mod race where two very good drivers got their cars to perform the way they wanted them to. They battled each other for 20 or 30 laps. Unfortuneately, it was a 15 lap race and all their racing was done in 2 lap increments between spins. .



revjimk
March 01, 2024 at 11:37:21 PM
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Posted By: Parnelli1970 on March 01 2024 at 01:35:00 PM

No Legends especially when there's over 40 of them. It's like track lice.



Legends are the worst, by far.....



Murphy
March 02, 2024 at 10:35:29 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 01 2024 at 11:37:21 PM

Legends are the worst, by far.....



I'm curious. You say you don't like Legends, but kinda like micro-sprints? Aren't they about the same thing- a mini racecar with a motorcycle engine? We don't have Legends cars on the northern plains, so I've never seen them race. On TV they look kinda boring, for the same reason as micro-sprints. At the end of the first lap of a micro-sprint race, they should wave the checkers. 95% of the time the field is stretched out into it's finishing order by then. The rest of the race is just watching buzzing hornets do hotlaps. 




revjimk
March 02, 2024 at 05:56:59 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on March 02 2024 at 10:35:29 AM

I'm curious. You say you don't like Legends, but kinda like micro-sprints? Aren't they about the same thing- a mini racecar with a motorcycle engine? We don't have Legends cars on the northern plains, so I've never seen them race. On TV they look kinda boring, for the same reason as micro-sprints. At the end of the first lap of a micro-sprint race, they should wave the checkers. 95% of the time the field is stretched out into it's finishing order by then. The rest of the race is just watching buzzing hornets do hotlaps. 



Micros are open wheel....they can be pretty exciting

If you ever saw Legends, I think you would agree with me

No way I can convince you by typing an opinion...

 



oswald
March 02, 2024 at 06:21:30 PM
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I agree totally with revjimk! Micros are OK, but do not like the legends.



Murphy
March 02, 2024 at 11:01:13 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 02 2024 at 05:56:59 PM

Micros are open wheel....they can be pretty exciting

If you ever saw Legends, I think you would agree with me

No way I can convince you by typing an opinion...

 



I'll take your word for it on the Legends cars being boring. What I can't picture is that mocrosprints put on a good race somewhere. Husets Speedway is under 3/8 mile. I call it a nice 11/32 mile track. Even that seems to large for micro sprints to put on any kind of racy show.




motorhead748
March 03, 2024 at 05:17:40 AM
Joined: 08/05/2010
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For me which if any  support class depends on the track concession stands.  With a good concession stand I can stomach about any class. 



StanM
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March 03, 2024 at 12:32:29 PM
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Racing is unique in that if I go see a professional racing series I have to watch a bunch of local hobbyists.  Thinking back to a WoO show in the 2000's that drew 60 Super Stocks.  There were only three heats of Sprints which were outnumbered two to one.  The Stock Car part of the program became an ordeal for die hard open wheel fans.  Streaming has mute and I can change channels so I don't run into that situation watching from home.  We have 305's locally if a person can handle sitting through a bunch of classes.  I Try to still get out to the tracks when it's all Sprints or I can handle a three class show like Husets.  


Stan Meissner



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