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Not sure if this was just recently but what was the dust up between double D and Lil Freddie at the Grove? Is Dietrich becoming the Robert Ballou of PA?

You couldn't be more right. It was an embarrassing moment for our sport. Is Freddie innocent? No. But neither is Brent Marks, Justin Peck, Devon Borden, Anthony Macri, Lance Dewease, Logan Wagner......you get the point. Danny sure as hell isn't either. Ask Brian Montieth about that. The fact is, these guys are all going hard and inevitably will make mistakes sometimes and in the heat of the moment, do or say things they regret. But this thing between Danny & Freddie is long past the point of being ridiculous. Danny pulled a close slider and Freddie got into him a bit. Honestly, that looked 100% like a racing deal to me. Then Danny flat out targeted Freddie and caused a very hard and costly accident that tore up several guys who had no part in any of it. Then Danny gets in victory lane and him and his whole crew behave like WWE trailer trash. Danny didn't even apologize for the guys who got caught up in the mess. They both need to knock their shit off before someone ends up getting killed over it. I don't remember now who the driver was who took evasive action but Freddie was VERY close to getting hit on the open side of the cockpit while upside down. That type of hit stands a high chance of serious or fatal injury. The 48 team all celebrated like they won Knoxville. Absolutely disgusting display from them. Like I said, I can totally understand the heat of the moment. It's happened to everyone. But to then go to victory lane and act like they did? Absolute trash. Whether you are a Danny fan or Freddie fan, what happened wasn't anything to be proud of. I happen to like watching them both. They're both very talented and always moving forward. I don't want to be there when one of them takes this childish shit too far and one of them or even worse, someone else who gets caught in the middle of their mess ends up going home in a pine box because their bush league asses used a car as a weapon at 130 mph. 

You couldn't be more right. It was an embarrassing moment for our sport. Is Freddie innocent? No. But neither is Brent Marks, Justin Peck, Devon Borden, Anthony Macri, Lance Dewease, Logan Wagner......you get the point. Danny sure as hell isn't either. Ask Brian Montieth about that. The fact is, these guys are all going hard and inevitably will make mistakes sometimes and in the heat of the moment, do or say things they regret. But this thing between Danny & Freddie is long past the point of being ridiculous. Danny pulled a close slider and Freddie got into him a bit. Honestly, that looked 100% like a racing deal to me. Then Danny flat out targeted Freddie and caused a very hard and costly accident that tore up several guys who had no part in any of it. Then Danny gets in victory lane and him and his whole crew behave like WWE trailer trash. Danny didn't even apologize for the guys who got caught up in the mess. They both need to knock their shit off before someone ends up getting killed over it. I don't remember now who the driver was who took evasive action but Freddie was VERY close to getting hit on the open side of the cockpit while upside down. That type of hit stands a high chance of serious or fatal injury. The 48 team all celebrated like they won Knoxville. Absolutely disgusting display from them. Like I said, I can totally understand the heat of the moment. It's happened to everyone. But to then go to victory lane and act like they did? Absolute trash. Whether you are a Danny fan or Freddie fan, what happened wasn't anything to be proud of. I happen to like watching them both. They're both very talented and always moving forward. I don't want to be there when one of them takes this childish shit too far and one of them or even worse, someone else who gets caught in the middle of their mess ends up going home in a pine box because their bush league asses used a car as a weapon at 130 mph. 

Any videos of the incident? When & where?

Any videos of the incident? When & where?

The incident was from the regularly scheduled feature at Williams Grove on Friday night. There is video on FB of the incident.

What really poured gas on the incident was Dietrich's Victory Lane interview. Dietrich was being booed in Victory Lane and said, "I guess they don't like people driving like their guy. Well, eff 'em."

Bruce Ellis asked Dietrich specifically about the incident and he said "I don't give a shit."

You couldn't be more right. It was an embarrassing moment for our sport. Is Freddie innocent? No. But neither is Brent Marks, Justin Peck, Devon Borden, Anthony Macri, Lance Dewease, Logan Wagner......you get the point. Danny sure as hell isn't either. Ask Brian Montieth about that. The fact is, these guys are all going hard and inevitably will make mistakes sometimes and in the heat of the moment, do or say things they regret. But this thing between Danny & Freddie is long past the point of being ridiculous. Danny pulled a close slider and Freddie got into him a bit. Honestly, that looked 100% like a racing deal to me. Then Danny flat out targeted Freddie and caused a very hard and costly accident that tore up several guys who had no part in any of it. Then Danny gets in victory lane and him and his whole crew behave like WWE trailer trash. Danny didn't even apologize for the guys who got caught up in the mess. They both need to knock their shit off before someone ends up getting killed over it. I don't remember now who the driver was who took evasive action but Freddie was VERY close to getting hit on the open side of the cockpit while upside down. That type of hit stands a high chance of serious or fatal injury. The 48 team all celebrated like they won Knoxville. Absolutely disgusting display from them. Like I said, I can totally understand the heat of the moment. It's happened to everyone. But to then go to victory lane and act like they did? Absolute trash. Whether you are a Danny fan or Freddie fan, what happened wasn't anything to be proud of. I happen to like watching them both. They're both very talented and always moving forward. I don't want to be there when one of them takes this childish shit too far and one of them or even worse, someone else who gets caught in the middle of their mess ends up going home in a pine box because their bush league asses used a car as a weapon at 130 mph. 

you mustve not seen the massive wreck Freddie caused the last time the 410s raced, I hope you were this upset when Fred just about killed Lucas Wolfe by running him into the pit exit going into 1. 

I think we can all agree that the real travesty here is the #8 font on the top wing of the Eichelberger car is way too small and completely out of proportion. How they continue to get that wrong is beond me and makes it hard to even root for that team. 

Get the graphics right, it's not that hard. 

Danny feels it's my racetrack to and refuses to give anyone racing room. He can be fast in central pa but get him outside state lines and he's a field filler. When the all stars or outlaws come to town he won't race them the same way. When they get the car right and he runs up front he blocks just as much as Freddie if not more. Hopefully the stupidity they both show at times won't cause a big one that has to get a driver a ride in the ambulance. I've sat and watched Freddie chop people going into the corners multiple times, I've also seen DD take someone to the wall. 

Danny feels it's my racetrack to and refuses to give anyone racing room. He can be fast in central pa but get him outside state lines and he's a field filler. When the all stars or outlaws come to town he won't race them the same way. When they get the car right and he runs up front he blocks just as much as Freddie if not more. Hopefully the stupidity they both show at times won't cause a big one that has to get a driver a ride in the ambulance. I've sat and watched Freddie chop people going into the corners multiple times, I've also seen DD take someone to the wall.