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November 10, 2022 at
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Well, Well, Well. Word on the street is he is not to pleased with WRG and is saying they may go with a true outlaw type schedule. Very interesting. Sweet has said he won't be chasing points in 2023. Is this TSR and KKR sending a message to WRG. There's to much money out there next year not to be taking a hard look at picking and choosing where to race. This may get interesting, time will tell.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Unless this has been very recent, I don't remember seeing Sweet stating he wasn't running for points.
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November 10, 2022 at
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This sounds like it comes straight from "Chaz" or whatever that guy on YouTube is. Schatz said he was excited to come back and run for a championship next year. Sweet has been quoted as saying he hopes to come back but isn't sure.
A lot is up in the air at the moment but I can't imagine more than a couple of teams dropping off, as the loyalty money is far too good.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Who's all dropping off WoO tour? No official word from any teams yet that I've seen.
Also, what tacks have filled lawsuits against WRG?
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Tony: "That means your at a real racetrack"
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November 10, 2022 at
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Nobody is making a definite commitment yet. Sweet has stated he wants to run high limit and why not, I'm sure he has a financial stake in this deal. Stewart is unhappy because he wants to chase the money being offered, again, why not ? He has a team capable of winning every time that cars rolls onto a track. I think it's starting to come to light just how much there making on broadcasting thesee races. Costs are going up and yet teams are not getting a share. Remember, it's one of the reasons sweet and larson put this deal together for. A chance for teams to put xtra dollars in there pockets.
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Highly recommend listening to Brian Carter's interview on Winged Nation that just came out. VHe put some figures out there on how much they are paying teams for their loyalty (and that does not even include merch sales for example). Also mentions the balance between in-person experience vs streaming and how the core product is putting butts in the seats and ensuring they maintain that which is very interesting. Really made me think about when I started going to the races as a young person, some times for free depending on age and how that plays a role in your life as you get older and missing that experience so you keep going back to the track.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 10 2022 at 09:05:41 AM
This sounds like it comes straight from "Chaz" or whatever that guy on YouTube is. Schatz said he was excited to come back and run for a championship next year. Sweet has been quoted as saying he hopes to come back but isn't sure.
A lot is up in the air at the moment but I can't imagine more than a couple of teams dropping off, as the loyalty money is far too good.
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I've tried listening to that guy. He sounds like a know-nothing that tries to make big drama out of nothing and instead just makes a big pile of monkey shit.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Posted By: Murphy on November 10 2022 at 12:21:52 PM
I've tried listening to that guy. He sounds like a know-nothing that tries to make big drama out of nothing and instead just makes a big pile of monkey shit.
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He had some interesting interviews with drivers, but when it's just him talking, it's unlistenable.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 10 2022 at 12:42:33 PM
He had some interesting interviews with drivers, but when it's just him talking, it's unlistenable.
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Agreed. It's like 2 minutes of blabbing stuffed into a 15 minute monologue.
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November 10, 2022 at
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 10 2022 at 09:05:41 AM
This sounds like it comes straight from "Chaz" or whatever that guy on YouTube is. Schatz said he was excited to come back and run for a championship next year. Sweet has been quoted as saying he hopes to come back but isn't sure.
A lot is up in the air at the moment but I can't imagine more than a couple of teams dropping off, as the loyalty money is far too good.
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I think someone had posted something about Tony posting something on twitter a few weeks ago about how WRG treating their owners and then this week I did see the idiot "Chaz" post something but I refuse to click on it and give that moron page hits. A majority of his takes are complete 100% B.S and usually wrong. If it does involve Tony , and I have been a fan of Tony's but lets be honest, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. He is prone to have a fit or two and as others have pointed out, Tony does not run/manage his twitter account. Whenever Tony Stewart posts something, it is not Tony himself typing and posting, he basically has someone doing it for him.
I am sure guys like Schatz and Sweet are evaluating the plus' and minus' of running a full schedule or picking and choosing. I have not heard, read, or seen Sweet say he is not coming back but I have seen that he is hopeful of running his series and that WRG would allow guys run it since they are not trying to conflict with the All Stars or Outlaws. I remember beginning of last year on Wing Nation he mentioned something about getting older with a young family you evaluate whether you should or should not run full time or not and if a smaller schedule makes sense financially. I would say with his promoting of races and this series he might be looking at an exit strategy more for family reason as he seems to be a family man. I do not think you would see KKR pull off the tour though.
I know there are some that think that with all of the purse money that it may make sense to run a "true outlaw" schedule but I still do not see it. I know people point at Brent Marks but let's be honest, a season like Brent had is a 1 in a million type season which says something to his ability. Not many mid level teams are going to be able to go purse chasing and have that type of success unless they have some sponsor/support money coming in. It still takes a lot of money to get those haulers up and down the road. That is where having that tow money and contingency money comes in handy. With high limit have a low amount of total races, potential rainouts, no tow money I am not sure it makes financial sense to go up and down the road to all of those races, then to Husets, Knoxville, Eldora, Grove, etc running through resources and not having the support that the Outlaws seem to have shown over the past handful of years
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Posted By: Nick14 on November 10 2022 at 02:37:50 PM
I think someone had posted something about Tony posting something on twitter a few weeks ago about how WRG treating their owners and then this week I did see the idiot "Chaz" post something but I refuse to click on it and give that moron page hits. A majority of his takes are complete 100% B.S and usually wrong. If it does involve Tony , and I have been a fan of Tony's but lets be honest, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. He is prone to have a fit or two and as others have pointed out, Tony does not run/manage his twitter account. Whenever Tony Stewart posts something, it is not Tony himself typing and posting, he basically has someone doing it for him.
I am sure guys like Schatz and Sweet are evaluating the plus' and minus' of running a full schedule or picking and choosing. I have not heard, read, or seen Sweet say he is not coming back but I have seen that he is hopeful of running his series and that WRG would allow guys run it since they are not trying to conflict with the All Stars or Outlaws. I remember beginning of last year on Wing Nation he mentioned something about getting older with a young family you evaluate whether you should or should not run full time or not and if a smaller schedule makes sense financially. I would say with his promoting of races and this series he might be looking at an exit strategy more for family reason as he seems to be a family man. I do not think you would see KKR pull off the tour though.
I know there are some that think that with all of the purse money that it may make sense to run a "true outlaw" schedule but I still do not see it. I know people point at Brent Marks but let's be honest, a season like Brent had is a 1 in a million type season which says something to his ability. Not many mid level teams are going to be able to go purse chasing and have that type of success unless they have some sponsor/support money coming in. It still takes a lot of money to get those haulers up and down the road. That is where having that tow money and contingency money comes in handy. With high limit have a low amount of total races, potential rainouts, no tow money I am not sure it makes financial sense to go up and down the road to all of those races, then to Husets, Knoxville, Eldora, Grove, etc running through resources and not having the support that the Outlaws seem to have shown over the past handful of years
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Some good points Nick14
I do remember in Justin's interview with Brad that he brought up how much longer would Brad be on the tour, and I thought he stated, not too much longer, and that's why he's getting into promoting, and preparing for life after driving.
And I think much of this will dictate what the sponsors want. Whether we agree or not the WOO provides the most exposure for sponsors.
Again, all of this may be to take a hard stance to see who reacts first.
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 10 2022 at 09:05:41 AM
This sounds like it comes straight from "Chaz" or whatever that guy on YouTube is. Schatz said he was excited to come back and run for a championship next year. Sweet has been quoted as saying he hopes to come back but isn't sure.
A lot is up in the air at the moment but I can't imagine more than a couple of teams dropping off, as the loyalty money is far too good.
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You mean the loud mouthed guy who likes to stir up shit?
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Posted By: Nick14 on November 10 2022 at 02:37:50 PM
I think someone had posted something about Tony posting something on twitter a few weeks ago about how WRG treating their owners and then this week I did see the idiot "Chaz" post something but I refuse to click on it and give that moron page hits. A majority of his takes are complete 100% B.S and usually wrong. If it does involve Tony , and I have been a fan of Tony's but lets be honest, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. He is prone to have a fit or two and as others have pointed out, Tony does not run/manage his twitter account. Whenever Tony Stewart posts something, it is not Tony himself typing and posting, he basically has someone doing it for him.
I am sure guys like Schatz and Sweet are evaluating the plus' and minus' of running a full schedule or picking and choosing. I have not heard, read, or seen Sweet say he is not coming back but I have seen that he is hopeful of running his series and that WRG would allow guys run it since they are not trying to conflict with the All Stars or Outlaws. I remember beginning of last year on Wing Nation he mentioned something about getting older with a young family you evaluate whether you should or should not run full time or not and if a smaller schedule makes sense financially. I would say with his promoting of races and this series he might be looking at an exit strategy more for family reason as he seems to be a family man. I do not think you would see KKR pull off the tour though.
I know there are some that think that with all of the purse money that it may make sense to run a "true outlaw" schedule but I still do not see it. I know people point at Brent Marks but let's be honest, a season like Brent had is a 1 in a million type season which says something to his ability. Not many mid level teams are going to be able to go purse chasing and have that type of success unless they have some sponsor/support money coming in. It still takes a lot of money to get those haulers up and down the road. That is where having that tow money and contingency money comes in handy. With high limit have a low amount of total races, potential rainouts, no tow money I am not sure it makes financial sense to go up and down the road to all of those races, then to Husets, Knoxville, Eldora, Grove, etc running through resources and not having the support that the Outlaws seem to have shown over the past handful of years
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Well said, especially the point about Brent's season being atypical, especially of mid-level guys on the tours.
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Posted By: rolldog on November 11 2022 at 12:09:55 PM
Well said, especially the point about Brent's season being atypical, especially of mid-level guys on the tours.
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Not sure Marks is a mid-level guy anymore but I agree he won't win 2 crown jewels per season all the time. The Outlaws just released the total amounts paid to the platinum teams and said 4 teams were over $500k, which is pretty solid. I always compare the likes of Mcfadden and Bayston to other mid tier teams like Gio, Rico and others who run "true Outlaw" schedules and both McFadden and Bayston were over $300k in earnings versus Gio and others who were in the 200k range.
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Posted By: Nick14 on November 10 2022 at 02:37:50 PM
I think someone had posted something about Tony posting something on twitter a few weeks ago about how WRG treating their owners and then this week I did see the idiot "Chaz" post something but I refuse to click on it and give that moron page hits. A majority of his takes are complete 100% B.S and usually wrong. If it does involve Tony , and I have been a fan of Tony's but lets be honest, you have to take what he says with a grain of salt. He is prone to have a fit or two and as others have pointed out, Tony does not run/manage his twitter account. Whenever Tony Stewart posts something, it is not Tony himself typing and posting, he basically has someone doing it for him.
I am sure guys like Schatz and Sweet are evaluating the plus' and minus' of running a full schedule or picking and choosing. I have not heard, read, or seen Sweet say he is not coming back but I have seen that he is hopeful of running his series and that WRG would allow guys run it since they are not trying to conflict with the All Stars or Outlaws. I remember beginning of last year on Wing Nation he mentioned something about getting older with a young family you evaluate whether you should or should not run full time or not and if a smaller schedule makes sense financially. I would say with his promoting of races and this series he might be looking at an exit strategy more for family reason as he seems to be a family man. I do not think you would see KKR pull off the tour though.
I know there are some that think that with all of the purse money that it may make sense to run a "true outlaw" schedule but I still do not see it. I know people point at Brent Marks but let's be honest, a season like Brent had is a 1 in a million type season which says something to his ability. Not many mid level teams are going to be able to go purse chasing and have that type of success unless they have some sponsor/support money coming in. It still takes a lot of money to get those haulers up and down the road. That is where having that tow money and contingency money comes in handy. With high limit have a low amount of total races, potential rainouts, no tow money I am not sure it makes financial sense to go up and down the road to all of those races, then to Husets, Knoxville, Eldora, Grove, etc running through resources and not having the support that the Outlaws seem to have shown over the past handful of years
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Once again--------you read my mind. Funny how many financially deficient fans on this forum can be. I keep reading "makes more financial sense to run a true outlaw schedule" and "can make just as much money not being affiliated with the WRG"------laugh my ass off. As you stated, you either have big bucks to run this fantasy schedule or have a dream, one in a million season like Brent Marks just had. If you don't have the either one, you aren't going to support your "habit" running a true outlaw season.
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Posted By: mav on November 10 2022 at 11:13:53 AM
Highly recommend listening to Brian Carter's interview on Winged Nation that just came out. VHe put some figures out there on how much they are paying teams for their loyalty (and that does not even include merch sales for example). Also mentions the balance between in-person experience vs streaming and how the core product is putting butts in the seats and ensuring they maintain that which is very interesting. Really made me think about when I started going to the races as a young person, some times for free depending on age and how that plays a role in your life as you get older and missing that experience so you keep going back to the track.
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Link: Brian Carter on Wing Nation
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Sweet said on Winged Nation that he hadn't made up his mind yet, wasn't 100% committed to WoO tour or "True Outlaw"
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Posted By: YungWun24 on November 10 2022 at 09:00:02 AM
Unless this has been very recent, I don't remember seeing Sweet stating he wasn't running for points.
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being one of the new owners/promotors with copeland and larson at chico his future may be uncertain with the WOO-zers. there is life after the outlaws...
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Posted By: NWFAN on November 15 2022 at 09:42:24 AM
being one of the new owners/promotors with copeland and larson at chico his future may be uncertain with the WOO-zers. there is life after the outlaws...
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Splitting profits three ways from a 1/4 mile dirt track with 7,000 seats is probably less lucrative than running with a top WoO team and finishing in the top 3 in points.
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Posted By: dsc1600 on November 11 2022 at 05:46:34 PM
Not sure Marks is a mid-level guy anymore but I agree he won't win 2 crown jewels per season all the time. The Outlaws just released the total amounts paid to the platinum teams and said 4 teams were over $500k, which is pretty solid. I always compare the likes of Mcfadden and Bayston to other mid tier teams like Gio, Rico and others who run "true Outlaw" schedules and both McFadden and Bayston were over $300k in earnings versus Gio and others who were in the 200k range.
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Yeah, after this last year Brent isn't mid-level. Didn't say that very well.
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