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This weekend was kind of odd from a scheduling perspective. 

First the All Stars going to 2 tracks they will be visiting one week later during Speedweeks. Both Attica and Atomic had subpar crowds. Atomic in particular seemed to be oddly scheduled coming off a huge Outlaw crowd the weekend before and having the All Stars there again for Speedweeks 10 days later. Of course, given sprint car economics make no sense, they paid $15k to win for race that had 1/3rd the attendence of the WoO race. 

And Port having 17 cars going against the Smith tribute race at Lincoln. It would have made sense to run something different this week and given the sprints off especially since they ran twice the week before. 

We talked last night about late models just showing up this year compared to last year. The limits late count was about normal, Port lost couple of sprints to selinsgrove which is normal when they run the 360's. I don't think Heimbach has raced since his hard crash a couple weeks ago, he might have run Selinsrove last if he had run. More Port cars follow the than do Lincoln cars. One lincoln car at Port last week on Sat. and more Port cars to Lincoln last night. That is why Port gets the same point champion every year. Port lost a couple to Western Pa Speedweek also. It happens at times. As far sheduleing some different only a few cars run the other track even if their home track doesn't run. I think Port only got three Lincoln cars Sunday and two made the feature.

Facts, or is it truth. Some on here can't handle either.

Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday. 

Dont feel bad or take it personal. Having your topic hijacked on the 1st page is common. Within 4 replies might be close to a record but if your topic wasnt hijacked the rest of us would feel bad cause you got treated different.

I also thought it weird as it seemed some tracks were clumping their big shows together on the calendar. Not being from the area I dont grasp how close or far these tracks are from each other and I often get many mixed as ti which is where etc. And not knowing that, I didnt put a lot of thought into it.

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

Sounds like poor scheduling. Reverse the order or put more time in between. Right now everyone wants to see the Outlaws because they truly do have the best drivers on the tour. Once you went to an outlaw race there any other type of race will feel like a downgrade even if it really isn't.  Die hard like us would attend both and sometimes actually prefer a different format and additional cars that typically come with a nonoutlaw race. I prefer my weekly racing over specials and I am in the minority. 

As far as the ASCoC, I'm pretty positive this race was added as sort of a makeup to Attica for them leaving Labor Day weekend to revive the Sharon nationals. As for atomic on Saturday, may have just been a who is available in range to Attica to host a race.

Port didn't intend to race against a $19,000 to Win show with 410's. If you'll remember, port released their schedule first this season among the local tracks and the initial lincoln schedule didn't include a steve smith tribute paying $19,000 to win. It was announced later once the season was under way.

in an ideal world, they'd have been able to work together. But it didn't work out timing wise. 

in regards to super late models, the car count has been down all season and not just port. Multiple traveling series and a part shortage has really hurt the division. specific to port, you'll notice guys like eckert and stone deciding to run port this week and skipping out on west Virginia. And yet the count was still 18. Shies it's still a destination for semi travelors. But with the part issues you Still have guys willing to hold out for bigger shows and Eldora is next weekend.

back to the 410's. Of course lincoln would and should draw the majority Of local cars looking for a payday. Right there they lost Macri, let's throw marks in there, lance means no kassidy, stutts ", G-Mac and maybe 1-2 more. Western PA got Ryan Smith, Flick, Hobaugh (occausinal), sye lynch (occasional). Tyler bear took over the 98, so no esh. Bearvthen gets Covid so that's essentially 2 cars.in tvst no 98 or 25. Heimbach suffered concussion symptoms from his wreck. cannon has been gone due to motor lacking parts. Walter just came back following nssty wreck and needing parts/time to heal. Ryan Taylor finally got his 410 together a week ago due to parts issues. Mark smith ran the 360 race at selinsgrove along with the 35 car...so even as possibles they're out. Buckwalter is in Indiana running a midget. Walton had a brand new car last week after being out and trashed that car wrecking, so he's out. 

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Hey BS Trousers, read this!!!

"Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday"

AND PAY ATTENTION!!!!

The thread was about Ohio, get it???????

McIntyre plus 6 other port regulars were missing.

More honest to goodness facts in those three words than any post Barbie makes. Thank you.

As far as the weird scheduling, I too was surprised the All Stars were scheduled to those tracks so close to Speedweek.

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I can asure you that there would be more discussion about Pa. racing here if every thread was not hijacked. It used to be just Pa. bashers in general and more recently. Well you know.

It is sort of hard to discuss Central Pa. sprint car racing and never bring up Lincoln, Port Royal & Williams Grove. We all know you don't like Port Royal and that is certainly your right. You may be suprised at some of the things that I have told some of the people who are in a position to do something about what I don't like. As far as your least favorite person there I will bet you would be shocked to hear my opinion. I really dislike one of the local tracks but you don't know which one that is because I don't think anyone else cares what I think of it. When that track comes up I just don't comment. They do say that there is no such thing as bad publicity so I think it is possible that you have helped the track more than you might think. 

Kind of like the full field of non-wing sprints and midgets at Lincoln Saturday you mean???   See ya in September for the biggest race event/weekend of year in Central PA and it's at Port Royal!!!!!!

Nope, you are wrong, but it's o.k. The Tusky kicks the Natty's ass for every aspect except the one day winner's share.  Everything else is bigger about the Tusky... you can have your wrong opinion, it's o.k.  The entire Tusky is WAYYYYYY bigger in terms of car counts, racing quality, number of days, total fan count for the 3 days, food quality, facility quality.  Everything except one person makes 20k more (an outlaw most likely) on 1 of the days events.  Reading is fundamental  I said race event/weekend, not single race. 

Atomic did not have much say in when the major series came to the track this year. That is why we have had big race after big race. I am certain the fans love the racing, but asking people to pay major series GA price multiple times a month is asking a lot especially in that area. But gotta start somewhere rebuilding the relationships with the big series.

The crowd for the All a Star show was not a $15k crowd, but the place seats a little over 8k. So 3500ish looks empty. Paying the $15k purse is just part of it this year and helps setup the long term plans for the track. 

Appreciate the insight. I'm glad you guys hit a home run with the WoO. 

Sorry if this is a dumb question, I don't live near the area. Isn't Atomic more known for non-wing sprint cars?