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dsc1600
June 05, 2022 at 11:23:53 AM
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This weekend was kind of odd from a scheduling perspective. 

First the All Stars going to 2 tracks they will be visiting one week later during Speedweeks. Both Attica and Atomic had subpar crowds. Atomic in particular seemed to be oddly scheduled coming off a huge Outlaw crowd the weekend before and having the All Stars there again for Speedweeks 10 days later. Of course, given sprint car economics make no sense, they paid $15k to win for race that had 1/3rd the attendence of the WoO race. 

And Port having 17 cars going against the Smith tribute race at Lincoln. It would have made sense to run something different this week and given the sprints off especially since they ran twice the week before. 




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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2022 at 11:23:53 AM

This weekend was kind of odd from a scheduling perspective. 

First the All Stars going to 2 tracks they will be visiting one week later during Speedweeks. Both Attica and Atomic had subpar crowds. Atomic in particular seemed to be oddly scheduled coming off a huge Outlaw crowd the weekend before and having the All Stars there again for Speedweeks 10 days later. Of course, given sprint car economics make no sense, they paid $15k to win for race that had 1/3rd the attendence of the WoO race. 

And Port having 17 cars going against the Smith tribute race at Lincoln. It would have made sense to run something different this week and given the sprints off especially since they ran twice the week before. 



Lincoln - the first night of the Weikert Memorial had 35 Srint cars. Port had 41 and 44 for the two nights of the Weikert Memorial

Last night Lincoln had 47 Sprint cars.   Thanks for not sanctioning this race.  Keep the money in Central PA!  

 

Port 17 Sprints

17 Late Models

21 or 22 Limited Late Models

Not one division had a full field.  Yet to hear some talk everyone wants to take there car to this track and race.  If that were the case they would have had full fields in all divisions last night!!

Nobody ran against them with the Late Models.

 


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longtimefan
June 05, 2022 at 12:56:16 PM
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Lincoln - the first night of the Weikert Memorial had 35 Srint cars. Port had 41 and 44 for the two nights of the Weikert Memorial

Last night Lincoln had 47 Sprint cars.   Thanks for not sanctioning this race.  Keep the money in Central PA!  

 

Port 17 Sprints

17 Late Models

21 or 22 Limited Late Models

Not one division had a full field.  Yet to hear some talk everyone wants to take there car to this track and race.  If that were the case they would have had full fields in all divisions last night!!

Nobody ran against them with the Late Models.

 



We talked last night about late models just showing up this year compared to last year. The limits late count was about normal, Port lost couple of sprints to selinsgrove which is normal when they run the 360's. I don't think Heimbach has raced since his hard crash a couple weeks ago, he might have run Selinsrove last if he had run. More Port cars follow the than do Lincoln cars. One lincoln car at Port last week on Sat. and more Port cars to Lincoln last night. That is why Port gets the same point champion every year. Port lost a couple to Western Pa Speedweek also. It happens at times. As far sheduleing some different only a few cars run the other track even if their home track doesn't run. I think Port only got three Lincoln cars Sunday and two made the feature.




BStrawser26
June 05, 2022 at 01:30:19 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 05 2022 at 12:56:16 PM

We talked last night about late models just showing up this year compared to last year. The limits late count was about normal, Port lost couple of sprints to selinsgrove which is normal when they run the 360's. I don't think Heimbach has raced since his hard crash a couple weeks ago, he might have run Selinsrove last if he had run. More Port cars follow the than do Lincoln cars. One lincoln car at Port last week on Sat. and more Port cars to Lincoln last night. That is why Port gets the same point champion every year. Port lost a couple to Western Pa Speedweek also. It happens at times. As far sheduleing some different only a few cars run the other track even if their home track doesn't run. I think Port only got three Lincoln cars Sunday and two made the feature.



Sounds like excuses instead of results......just sayin!!  

 


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longtimefan
June 05, 2022 at 01:44:41 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 05 2022 at 01:30:19 PM

Sounds like excuses instead of results......just sayin!!  

 



Facts, or is it truth. Some on here can't handle either.



dsc1600
June 05, 2022 at 01:55:52 PM
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Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday. 




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June 05, 2022 at 02:05:47 PM
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Posted By: longtimefan on June 05 2022 at 01:44:41 PM

Facts, or is it truth. Some on here can't handle either.



They were more excuses than anything!  Sorry to disappoint you!!

My point and it is a big one....if drivers want to race there so bad there would have been full fields in the sprints and late models.


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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2022 at 01:55:52 PM

Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday. 



Dont feel bad or take it personal. Having your topic hijacked on the 1st page is common. Within 4 replies might be close to a record but if your topic wasnt hijacked the rest of us would feel bad cause you got treated different.

 

I also thought it weird as it seemed some tracks were clumping their big shows together on the calendar. Not being from the area I dont grasp how close or far these tracks are from each other and I often get many mixed as ti which is where etc. And not knowing that, I didnt put a lot of thought into it.


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June 05, 2022 at 07:52:14 PM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2022 at 11:23:53 AM

This weekend was kind of odd from a scheduling perspective. 

First the All Stars going to 2 tracks they will be visiting one week later during Speedweeks. Both Attica and Atomic had subpar crowds. Atomic in particular seemed to be oddly scheduled coming off a huge Outlaw crowd the weekend before and having the All Stars there again for Speedweeks 10 days later. Of course, given sprint car economics make no sense, they paid $15k to win for race that had 1/3rd the attendence of the WoO race. 

And Port having 17 cars going against the Smith tribute race at Lincoln. It would have made sense to run something different this week and given the sprints off especially since they ran twice the week before. 



Sounds like poor scheduling. Reverse the order or put more time in between. Right now everyone wants to see the Outlaws because they truly do have the best drivers on the tour. Once you went to an outlaw race there any other type of race will feel like a downgrade even if it really isn't.  Die hard like us would attend both and sometimes actually prefer a different format and additional cars that typically come with a nonoutlaw race. I prefer my weekly racing over specials and I am in the minority. 




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Posted By: dsc1600 on June 05 2022 at 11:23:53 AM

This weekend was kind of odd from a scheduling perspective. 

First the All Stars going to 2 tracks they will be visiting one week later during Speedweeks. Both Attica and Atomic had subpar crowds. Atomic in particular seemed to be oddly scheduled coming off a huge Outlaw crowd the weekend before and having the All Stars there again for Speedweeks 10 days later. Of course, given sprint car economics make no sense, they paid $15k to win for race that had 1/3rd the attendence of the WoO race. 

And Port having 17 cars going against the Smith tribute race at Lincoln. It would have made sense to run something different this week and given the sprints off especially since they ran twice the week before. 



As far as the ASCoC, I'm pretty positive this race was added as sort of a makeup to Attica for them leaving Labor Day weekend to revive the Sharon nationals. As for atomic on Saturday, may have just been a who is available in range to Attica to host a race.



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June 05, 2022 at 10:14:55 PM
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Sounds like poor scheduling. Reverse the order or put more time in between. Right now everyone wants to see the Outlaws because they truly do have the best drivers on the tour. Once you went to an outlaw race there any other type of race will feel like a downgrade even if it really isn't.  Die hard like us would attend both and sometimes actually prefer a different format and additional cars that typically come with a nonoutlaw race. I prefer my weekly racing over specials and I am in the minority. 



Port didn't intend to race against a $19,000 to Win show with 410's. If you'll remember, port released their schedule first this season among the local tracks and the initial lincoln schedule didn't include a steve smith tribute paying $19,000 to win. It was announced later once the season was under way.

in an ideal world, they'd have been able to work together. But it didn't work out timing wise. 

in regards to super late models, the car count has been down all season and not just port. Multiple traveling series and a part shortage has really hurt the division. specific to port, you'll notice guys like eckert and stone deciding to run port this week and skipping out on west Virginia. And yet the count was still 18. Shies it's still a destination for semi travelors. But with the part issues you Still have guys willing to hold out for bigger shows and Eldora is next weekend.

back to the 410's. Of course lincoln would and should draw the majority Of local cars looking for a payday. Right there they lost Macri, let's throw marks in there, lance means no kassidy, stutts ", G-Mac and maybe 1-2 more. Western PA got Ryan Smith, Flick, Hobaugh (occausinal), sye lynch (occasional). Tyler bear took over the 98, so no esh. Bearvthen gets Covid so that's essentially 2 cars.in tvst no 98 or 25. Heimbach suffered concussion symptoms from his wreck. cannon has been gone due to motor lacking parts. Walter just came back following nssty wreck and needing parts/time to heal. Ryan Taylor finally got his 410 together a week ago due to parts issues. Mark smith ran the 360 race at selinsgrove along with the 35 car...so even as possibles they're out. Buckwalter is in Indiana running a midget. Walton had a brand new car last week after being out and trashed that car wrecking, so he's out. 



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Port didn't intend to race against a $19,000 to Win show with 410's. If you'll remember, port released their schedule first this season among the local tracks and the initial lincoln schedule didn't include a steve smith tribute paying $19,000 to win. It was announced later once the season was under way.

in an ideal world, they'd have been able to work together. But it didn't work out timing wise. 

in regards to super late models, the car count has been down all season and not just port. Multiple traveling series and a part shortage has really hurt the division. specific to port, you'll notice guys like eckert and stone deciding to run port this week and skipping out on west Virginia. And yet the count was still 18. Shies it's still a destination for semi travelors. But with the part issues you Still have guys willing to hold out for bigger shows and Eldora is next weekend.

back to the 410's. Of course lincoln would and should draw the majority Of local cars looking for a payday. Right there they lost Macri, let's throw marks in there, lance means no kassidy, stutts ", G-Mac and maybe 1-2 more. Western PA got Ryan Smith, Flick, Hobaugh (occausinal), sye lynch (occasional). Tyler bear took over the 98, so no esh. Bearvthen gets Covid so that's essentially 2 cars.in tvst no 98 or 25. Heimbach suffered concussion symptoms from his wreck. cannon has been gone due to motor lacking parts. Walter just came back following nssty wreck and needing parts/time to heal. Ryan Taylor finally got his 410 together a week ago due to parts issues. Mark smith ran the 360 race at selinsgrove along with the 35 car...so even as possibles they're out. Buckwalter is in Indiana running a midget. Walton had a brand new car last week after being out and trashed that car wrecking, so he's out. 



More excuses and more excuses, bla, bla, bla.

In your last paragragh you have a ton of excuses.  I don't do excuses.  If the drivers truly want to race there every week there would have been a full field of Sprints and late models.  Excuses, excuses, and more excuses!  Bla, Bla, Bla.

I heard they got the water pump fixed for the trucks on Saturday morning, according to my Friend.  He said it was a treat at best.  They don't need any hinderance from putting water on that track!!!!

Lance only runs every once in a while.  Marks runs where the money is being paid so you can't count him as a regular at Port.

Macri ans Stutts are the only two cars Port lost to Lincoln that come regularly. 

Mark Smith races 360's mostly over the last number of years.  Although he has raced a few more 410 shows this year he is not running a 410 all the time.  Look for both of them to be at Selinsgrove again this week for the Whitcome memorial.


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More excuses and more excuses, bla, bla, bla.

In your last paragragh you have a ton of excuses.  I don't do excuses.  If the drivers truly want to race there every week there would have been a full field of Sprints and late models.  Excuses, excuses, and more excuses!  Bla, Bla, Bla.

I heard they got the water pump fixed for the trucks on Saturday morning, according to my Friend.  He said it was a treat at best.  They don't need any hinderance from putting water on that track!!!!

Lance only runs every once in a while.  Marks runs where the money is being paid so you can't count him as a regular at Port.

Macri ans Stutts are the only two cars Port lost to Lincoln that come regularly. 

Mark Smith races 360's mostly over the last number of years.  Although he has raced a few more 410 shows this year he is not running a 410 all the time.  Look for both of them to be at Selinsgrove again this week for the Whitcome memorial.



Blah blah blah



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Posted By: BStrawser26 on June 05 2022 at 01:30:19 PM

Sounds like excuses instead of results......just sayin!!  

 



Hey BS Trousers, read this!!!

"Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday"

AND PAY ATTENTION!!!!

The thread was about Ohio, get it???????

 



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More excuses and more excuses, bla, bla, bla.

In your last paragragh you have a ton of excuses.  I don't do excuses.  If the drivers truly want to race there every week there would have been a full field of Sprints and late models.  Excuses, excuses, and more excuses!  Bla, Bla, Bla.

I heard they got the water pump fixed for the trucks on Saturday morning, according to my Friend.  He said it was a treat at best.  They don't need any hinderance from putting water on that track!!!!

Lance only runs every once in a while.  Marks runs where the money is being paid so you can't count him as a regular at Port.

Macri ans Stutts are the only two cars Port lost to Lincoln that come regularly. 

Mark Smith races 360's mostly over the last number of years.  Although he has raced a few more 410 shows this year he is not running a 410 all the time.  Look for both of them to be at Selinsgrove again this week for the Whitcome memorial.



McIntyre plus 6 other port regulars were missing.

 




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McIntyre plus 6 other port regulars were missing.

 



More excuses!!!! That all you guys have at Port Royal.


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Hey BS Trousers, read this!!!

"Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday"

AND PAY ATTENTION!!!!

The thread was about Ohio, get it???????

 



Who cares then don't bring up the slow palace and the best track in central PA..  . Lincoln!!!!!


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Posted By: Murphy on June 06 2022 at 07:48:04 AM

Blah blah blah



More honest to goodness facts in those three words than any post Barbie makes. Thank you.

As far as the weird scheduling, I too was surprised the All Stars were scheduled to those tracks so close to Speedweek.

 


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Hey BS Trousers, read this!!!

"Oh well, I wanted to get some perspectives on the All Stars but threw in Port and Lincoln as further examples. I should have known the board buffoon would ruin it. Will try again someday"

AND PAY ATTENTION!!!!

The thread was about Ohio, get it???????

 



I can asure you that there would be more discussion about Pa. racing here if every thread was not hijacked. It used to be just Pa. bashers in general and more recently. Well you know.



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I can asure you that there would be more discussion about Pa. racing here if every thread was not hijacked. It used to be just Pa. bashers in general and more recently. Well you know.



More blah, blah, and blah.  This thread was not hijacked.  The orginal poster brought up Lincoln and Port Royal.  Yes, I realize what it was also about the scheduling and poor Port should have not had a raced sprints last weekend.  Poor, poor Port.  Oh well it could be worse!!  Couldn't happen to a better place.  Everyone want to race at Port.....NOT REALLY!! or they would have have full fields in all 3 divisions.....period.   NO EXCUSES!!


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