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March 21, 2022 at
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Had him cleared by how much? A foot? You gotta give the other guy a little more room than that or you can expect to get turned. Wagner did a similar slider on Walter in last years dream race, taking him out and walter was none too pleased. Just because you "clear" the car doesn't mean it was a clean pass. Now go back and look at Macri's slider on Marks for the lead. He cleared him by a couple car lengths, not a couple inches. Macri didn't spin him on purpose, he had the momentum coming off the top of turn 4 and tried to steer it back under Wagner who had lost some momentum sliding up the track. More of a racing deal than anything. Wagner goes back out and crashes again, how fitting. I remember Jeff Shepard saying once how Rahmer slid him dirty at Williams Grove and he stayed on the gas crashing them both. Rahmer never slid him like that again. You race the other guy how they race you.
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March 21, 2022 at
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I think I'm like most others on here and think most of your takes or "facts" are ridiculous. But I've gotta give you credit, no matter how dumb your opinion is, you stick by what you think to the very end. I don't see anyway how that would be considered a fight. I guess I don't think sticking your head in someones car constitutes a fight, otherwise I've probably seen a fight at every sprint car race I've gone to, especially under a red flag, it looks like every crew chief is fighting with their driver. From what I saw on the video there was no punch or punches thrown, I can't see what his hand is doing (just like you can't either) but if I had to guess he had a hold of his firesuit. Again doesn't constitute a fight in my opinion. Once multiple punches are thrown, that's a fight in my opinion. If this kind of stuff upsets you maybe you should just skip watching any sporting events?
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March 21, 2022 at
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Posted By: Nick14 on March 21 2022 at 01:41:59 PM
I don't care what two drivers they are, they could be named A & the other B and I could not care less. One driver (who later has admitted he got frustrated, spun the tires and got into the other) spun a driver out, the other driver ran up yelled, screamed, and for what little physical contact that happened bruised the ego more than hurt a body. Most likely knowing how drivers and teams are these days, Logan probably figured that was his only opportunity to get to Macri because if he tried in the pits then most likely he would have to deal with the whole team, or the other driver hiding in the trailer. That is the problem at all levels of racing anymore is that the whole teams get involved instead of letting the drivers settle it themselves. Let the drivers go and have the teams stay out of it. If you are afraid of confrontation and do not want to get popped in the mouth after the race then maybe you should not do the action on the track that causes that reaction. Maybe then more drivers would have a little more respect for each other's well being.
However in this case, I think everyone is blowing this way out of proportion.
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This is the smartest thing I've read on here in a while. But you are completely right about drivers not respecting each other anymore and honestly I enjoy racing at any level a whole lot less because of that. I don't think there needs to be a fight everytime there's a disagreement on the track but I do think when drivers make stupid moves, they need to be held accountable somewhat. In a perfect world, lock the 2 drivers in a trailer and they can both discuss whatever incident happened like adults and everyone could move on. Instead we all know what happens, One driver gets pissed off at another driver and wants to discuss it and immediately the crews get between them which just pisses everyone off more.
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March 21, 2022 at
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Posted By: armyduke on March 21 2022 at 09:46:47 AM
HUGE...lol. People whine about cookie cutter corporate racers then one shows some emotion and it's a HUGE problem and snowflake get's offended. The reality is if it was someone giving Lance a piece of their mind you'd be all for it and you know it, even though you will deny it.
I'm just glad you enjoyed the awesome racing provided by the racers and the track crew Sunday.
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Wagner posted on Twitter that he wouldn't tolerate "bullying" In regards to the incident with Macri. What a drama queen. He put his hands on another driver who was strapped in. Wagner is about as self righteous as they come. Save us the bullying speech on social media and wait until the guy is standing in front of you to be a tough guy.
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March 22, 2022 at
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You don't have a dog in the fight but yet you are whining and crying on here and started an entire thread basically demanding one of the drivers be suspended. Which most likely he won't so you will be crying and throwing another keyboard fit because someone didn't do what you wanted done. It was a racing deal and you can throw one of your classic 5 year old crybaby fits that you are prone too no one really gives a crap anymore. Everyone probably had forgotten all about it the next day but then losers like you have to get all offended and stir everything up over a non issue. A driver ran over and yelled at another driver and if he hit him it probably did not have enough force to even trigger the nerves in the bodies to register any pain. The only thing that the incident seemed to hurt is your feelings.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Posted By: hardon on March 21 2022 at 08:51:14 PM
This is the smartest thing I've read on here in a while. But you are completely right about drivers not respecting each other anymore and honestly I enjoy racing at any level a whole lot less because of that. I don't think there needs to be a fight everytime there's a disagreement on the track but I do think when drivers make stupid moves, they need to be held accountable somewhat. In a perfect world, lock the 2 drivers in a trailer and they can both discuss whatever incident happened like adults and everyone could move on. Instead we all know what happens, One driver gets pissed off at another driver and wants to discuss it and immediately the crews get between them which just pisses everyone off more.
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Thanks, I don't think a fight needs to happen everytime either and honestly I think if you take the whole crew element out a lot of the fighting and intentional wrecking would eventually work itself out. You will probably have a lot of shouting and profanity which may hurt some people on here who have delicate feelings, but you would not have half the crap that happens once the drivers know that they will have to answer for their actions after the fact. If the drivers knew that they could get popped afterwards in the pits for doing a stupid move on the track they may race with some respect as opposed to making all of the stupid moves on the track.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Posted By: Nick14 on March 22 2022 at 12:16:47 PM
You don't have a dog in the fight but yet you are whining and crying on here and started an entire thread basically demanding one of the drivers be suspended. Which most likely he won't so you will be crying and throwing another keyboard fit because someone didn't do what you wanted done. It was a racing deal and you can throw one of your classic 5 year old crybaby fits that you are prone too no one really gives a crap anymore. Everyone probably had forgotten all about it the next day but then losers like you have to get all offended and stir everything up over a non issue. A driver ran over and yelled at another driver and if he hit him it probably did not have enough force to even trigger the nerves in the bodies to register any pain. The only thing that the incident seemed to hurt is your feelings.
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You have to understand one thing. You and I are sprint car fans. BStrawser is not. His hobby is simply jousting with people on the internet. He doesn't go to the races. You can tell by what he posts that he really doesn't seem to know a lot about racing. He doesn't care about races. Like a lot of teenagers, he's just looking for somebody to argue with because that's his hobby. It helps his self-esteem. You can bet he's on a lot of unrelated forums and such simply because of the ego boost of getting the attention. For the most part, he's just background noise.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Posted By: Murphy on March 22 2022 at 02:35:38 PM
You have to understand one thing. You and I are sprint car fans. BStrawser is not. His hobby is simply jousting with people on the internet. He doesn't go to the races. You can tell by what he posts that he really doesn't seem to know a lot about racing. He doesn't care about races. Like a lot of teenagers, he's just looking for somebody to argue with because that's his hobby. It helps his self-esteem. You can bet he's on a lot of unrelated forums and such simply because of the ego boost of getting the attention. For the most part, he's just background noise.
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That is a pretty accurate description of him. The only good that he provides is that all of us usually feel a lot better about ourselves after we read his idiotic posts. The only good news for him is that there is nothing wrong with him that reincarnation can't cure.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Posted By: Nick14 on March 22 2022 at 12:16:47 PM
You don't have a dog in the fight but yet you are whining and crying on here and started an entire thread basically demanding one of the drivers be suspended. Which most likely he won't so you will be crying and throwing another keyboard fit because someone didn't do what you wanted done. It was a racing deal and you can throw one of your classic 5 year old crybaby fits that you are prone too no one really gives a crap anymore. Everyone probably had forgotten all about it the next day but then losers like you have to get all offended and stir everything up over a non issue. A driver ran over and yelled at another driver and if he hit him it probably did not have enough force to even trigger the nerves in the bodies to register any pain. The only thing that the incident seemed to hurt is your feelings.
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Agreed. Same ole clown trolling for attention. Its obvious he/she isn't a race fan. Gee, next thing will be that we can't handle the truth, same old broken recorrd. I don't think winged/strawser deserves two weeks vacation from this site, more like two months or two years. Me thinks most posters on here would approve.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Sure. Whatever. You've probably got picture of B-mods on your bedroom wall.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Cool story bro. Tell you what, when you build your own track or start your own series or promote your own event instead of babble, then you can suspend whoever you want for whatever it is for however long you wish. But until then you are nothing a nobody, you hold zero power and your opinion or whatever your version of "fact" is carries absolutely no weight.
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March 22, 2022 at
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Posted By: shillingk22 on March 21 2022 at 04:19:52 PM
So you're saying he should quit his full time job? The job of which allows him to race at one (sometimes two) days a weekend? He doesn't give a shit if he's a one track wonder, he won over 50K last year at the Tusky + whatever the track title pays and numerous races.
Furthermore, he didn't cause the situation, he cleared him. Macri appears to have gotten crossed up and got in to the back of him. May have been a racing deal, but Logan should be mad, he got turned running 2nd with time to go to get to 1st.
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Cleared him but got spun out because he got tagged on the cross over... Can't argue with that stupidity. Fits right in with Logan's bullying "logic".
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March 23, 2022 at
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Posted By: revjimk on March 21 2022 at 11:44:41 AM
"wagner slid macri coming out of 4. macri tried to cross over and clipped wagner's rear end...spinning him out. looked like a racing deal and i'm amazed it doesn't happen more often. you could argue macri could have cut him a break and let him in"....
Yea, it was like Logan was playing chicken with Macri & guessed wrong
I had a discussion with an IOW friend about what constitutes a "Clean" or "dirty" slide job (he's been watching this MUCH longer than me) He said if the "slider" forces the "slidee" to slow down or wreck, its dirty. If somebody cuts me off driving on the road & makes me slow down, it pisses me off... but this is competition. Any thoughts?
I don't think Logan could have done much harm to Macri with his helmet on, but he did reach into the car, thats pretty damn close to fighting. I'll leave it up to the officials at Port....
So I'm not taking sides on either issue, but i do have one opinion: Macri is becoming the best full time sprint car driver in Pa........ (Lance not "full time")
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A slider forcing someone to slow down is not dirty
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March 23, 2022 at
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You need to go to some sprint cars races so your posts would at least seem plausible to some people. If you pass another car without crashing either of you, that's called racing. If you ever go to a sprint car race you'll understand.
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March 23, 2022 at
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Posted By: turn4guy on March 23 2022 at 04:13:13 AM
A slider forcing someone to slow down is not dirty
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May not be dirty but doesn't mean the other guy has to use the brake pedal just because he has one either. The risk you take making a move like that. Considering how early in the race it was it was a poor decision from the get go.
If you short slide someone and end up losing the encounter whining and acting like a little girl in a spat with another 12 year old over lip gloss sure doesn't make you look very manly. I've always liked watching Wagner race at Port but the image he presented on Sunday sure wasn't a positive one.
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March 23, 2022 at
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Sure, Jan.
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