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Seems funny ALL the drivers bragg up the track conditions. Got LM drivers towing all the way from Winchester Va to race there. I use to like wet hammer down tracks, now they only produce follow the leader racing. 

Strong field in both classes. Waa Waa Waa,  had 2 grooves, bottom you had to have the car set up right and there was passing. US old fats don't like the tracks drivers want today. Madson I thought did very well, he gets that place figured out he will be a strong contender. It was also interesting to see that car racing up front and the former driver struggling in the back. Hummm, I wonder. I wish the weikert boys would get there name on a car that runs port regularly. Come on DD, the big dogs will be at port royal on Saturday nights, will you ?  Winged straw man, your one of those old farts I mentioned above, give it up,  it is what it is. Ask any driver that's what they want today. The late models were using the hole track up, great race port royal.

I do find it interesting that every year this topic comes up and every year people feel the need to get in the argument. I don't think anyone is changing anyone else's mind at this point, but at least it's not another topic about "Kyle".

Hey, it was a sunny but chilly and a breezy day. You got out of the house and you got to the track to racing. Live each day and enjoy it.

Pretty much. When I saw it was Port's opener this weekend I knew someone would make a post about the surface no matter what the condition. This topic always reminds me of what my dad and I discussed last year at Knoxville. I like Coca-Cola, he likes Pepsi. Always have, always will. When I go to his house, Pepsi will be in the refrigerator and if I want to drink a soda/pop (depending on where you live) I have to either drink Pepsi, remember to bring a coke, or find an alternative and vise versa when he comes to my house. Neither of us walk in and start lecturing the other everytime about our preference and why it is better than the others, or question the other's  IQ level for their taste, or lecture a waiter/waitress if we go into a restuarant if that resturant doesn't serve our preference. We like what we like and can tolerate the other and go on with our lives and don't waste other's time with our subjective opinion based on our own experiences because we are adults. Just because someone else likes the opposite of what I like doesn't mean it makes my enjoyment of what I like less significant to me and I don't need to convert anyone to make my experience more enjoyable either.

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I watched both races on Flo yesterday. Port Royal is better track. Two grooves, three when Dewease runs the middle. Cars against the fence, slide jobs every lap. The past 3 weeks at Lincoln, I've watched cars putt around the bottom huggy pole. The late models are great at Port too. Can't wait for Sunday's big block show either. 

Let's not talk about the surface at the grove today. Ole winged Strawser mite lose it.

Good. Stay home. That's all anyone ever wanted. Now that you'll never go again, you shouldn't feel the need to talk about it anymore right? But see, you still will because you're one of those people who are miserable and you like to shit on everyone who isn't as miserable as you. Therefore, you actually enjoy repeating yourself like a parrot about the same old thing you claim to not like. You don't hate Port Royal as much as you hate the fact that a lot of other people like Port Royal so your 4th grade intellect can't help but to compel you to project your own misery on them. It's pretty sad actually. If you weren't such a negative, loud mouthed, underachieving know nothing asshole, I'd probably feel sorry for you. 

That's good news. Now, how 'bout you find a way to quit talking about it? You're like the guy that just can't stop talking about his ex- very boring company.

You're comparing apples to oranges. Port isn't a 1/3 bullring like the track the outlaws were at. It's a big fast 1/2 mile. You prepare it the same way you prep a bullring and it will be hammer down, no passing around the cushion. "Slick to a curb" produces the best racing at Port Royal and even then most of the cars are up top banging it off the guard rail. Youy ask any driver there and I'll bet all of them will yell you the track is better to race on when it slicks off. That's when you have to use the throttle and can pass. Puts the driver back into the equation.

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I used to like a fast tacky track too. That was what produced the most exciting racing a few decades ago but with todays technology and mechanical evolution, the cars are too locked down and too even to produce much passing on a tacky, hammer down 1/2 mile track. The slicker track produces better racing and is easier on equipment. It is still nice to see them wind it out every once in awhile and mother nature usually provides a few nights like that. IMO the racing at Port the last 3-4 years is the best I've ever seen at the track. They have topnotch clay and that definitely helps too.

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You guys do realize if you dont respond to a thread it gets buried on page 2 or 3 in about 3 days right??????

Even though I may not know you, I 
care what most of you think!

That's true, but if I'm a casual or new fan and I'm considering a trip to Port Royal and I read posts from dip and his brother shit, I might think twice, and that would be a shame. I live in Ohio and even I feel the need to defend Port. I've watched every show from there on Flo for over a year now. I also appreciate the fact that there are a lot PA guys in here like Fixxer who call these guys out and defend the track. 

Anyone remember last year, I forget which race it was, the drivers at port said it was to fast and they had hoped for the track to slow down and slick off for better racing and passing. Let's talk tires and downforce. From my day, we had tires that you could run for weeks before they'd show signs of wear. Firestones, remember them.  Wings that looked kewl but we had no idea of how to use the air. Fast forward 30 yrs. You had Goodyear making tires that you had to be so careful on the throttle if you picked the wrong compound that you'd blister a tire in a couple laps. Except for samny, Goodyear went away and so did those special tires. Wings got bigger and reshaped because guys learned the bottom of the wing was almost as important as the top. Side panels got more bracing and they started to make use of the air in the corners. All this time that evolved has made the cars much faster. The big thing that has changed the cars of today get down into the surface. The LR gets locked down in the corners and down the straights you see guys pulling the RF up. So what's the moral to this story. The surface has never changed. Sometimes track prep crews do miss it. Mostly the cars of today just eat up a surface. So sometimes there spot on and other times if that sun burns down on that corner for to long. You lose. 

Is that a promise?

A new year at Port Royal and same old winning mechanic.

I believe Davy Brown has wrenched a car to victory every year since 1959.        Congratulations Davey !

Some of the least passing can occur after rain delay when the cars are hammer down or a rubber down where the rubber is an equalizer and it becomes a freight train. I have seen heat races at Knoxville where the fastest car in time trials cannot advance and the polesetter thru last row starter remain the same. Have watched some races where Lasoski ran bottom every lap and won. Dust is unacceptable due to lack of vision.

Feathers from Winchester said he will tow to Port all yr and so did Bare. Both said best late model track in Pa. Winchester and Hagerstown only got handful of LM races all yr..

Well Lets just look at the details of the feature at Port Royal.....

Yes, Dewease won from the pole. However Lance got passed by Madsen and did not get him back until lap 9. Sounds like he had to work for it.

The battle for fifth between Mike Wagner, Macri and Logan Wagner was worth the price of admission in itself. Those guys swapped the same position for 6 straight laps duking it out running three seperate lines.

Anthony Macri +8, Blane Heimbach +6, Logan Wagner +7, Justin Peck 7, Gerard McIntyre +7, George Hobaugh +7, Mike Wagner was +4, wrecked on lap 15 or so and came back forom the rear to finish 14th in 10 laps. Dylan Cisney started third, fell outside of the top 6 within a handful of laps and came back and was one turn away from a second place finish. And only two cars dropped out so it wasn't a matter of guys advancing as a result of wrecks.

Do you watch races????? Because there was a ton of passing throughout the field and there were a ton of guys dicing it up on three seperate lines from the start of the feature until the end. It was a random draw that put Lance on the pole. He's consistantly been one of the best, if not the best in central pa for decades. As evidenced by his 116 career wins at Port Royal Speedway. I think i'd be complaining or more concerned if that kind of guy could'nt find a way to capitalize on a front row starting spot. Get over yourself man