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August 28, 2020 at
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Has Kyle Larson made Revenge Racing the new normal in sprint car world ? I quit watching NASCAR a few years ago when it became Revenge Racing. I’ve tried to forget the details but I recall it centered around Joey Logano and his competitors’ determination to keep him from winning the cup championship.
Larson pulled a dirty slide attack on Schuchart in Knoxville and then Logan bumped him into the infield last weekend. Some claimed Logan sought revenge.
Dietrich and Rahmer seem to be out for revenge.
Apparently some folks feel that Reutzel deserved the dirty pass he got from Dietrich last night. Folks are already talking about revenge and “karma”.
Mid summer Danny Dietrich said this: “ya know like tonight’s one of those nights where you just kinda gas her up and hope and hope that you don’t crash and ahhh.....I MEAN THAT’S WHAT KYLE DOES AND IT WORKS OUT SOMETIMES.” So Danny is using Kyle and his success to justify his own aggressive driving.
In 2009 – 2019 Donny Schatz was the top driver and the cleanest driver and an inspiration for all sprint car drivers. Dirty racing wasn’t cool. What happened ?? This year we have Larson out there banging wheels nightly and constantly getting praise for his amaaaaaazing car control while folks look the other way each time he wins dirty, risks lives, has a “racing incident”, or makes a rookie mistake.
Open wheel racing was already dangerous enough, expensive enough, and exciting enough. I hope these guys clean it up a little bit before there is another tragedy.
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August 28, 2020 at
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Posted By: onporch on August 28 2020 at 08:06:41 AM
Has Kyle Larson made Revenge Racing the new normal in sprint car world ? I quit watching NASCAR a few years ago when it became Revenge Racing. I’ve tried to forget the details but I recall it centered around Joey Logano and his competitors’ determination to keep him from winning the cup championship.
Larson pulled a dirty slide attack on Schuchart in Knoxville and then Logan bumped him into the infield last weekend. Some claimed Logan sought revenge.
Dietrich and Rahmer seem to be out for revenge.
Apparently some folks feel that Reutzel deserved the dirty pass he got from Dietrich last night. Folks are already talking about revenge and “karma”.
Mid summer Danny Dietrich said this: “ya know like tonight’s one of those nights where you just kinda gas her up and hope and hope that you don’t crash and ahhh.....I MEAN THAT’S WHAT KYLE DOES AND IT WORKS OUT SOMETIMES.” So Danny is using Kyle and his success to justify his own aggressive driving.
In 2009 – 2019 Donny Schatz was the top driver and the cleanest driver and an inspiration for all sprint car drivers. Dirty racing wasn’t cool. What happened ?? This year we have Larson out there banging wheels nightly and constantly getting praise for his amaaaaaazing car control while folks look the other way each time he wins dirty, risks lives, has a “racing incident”, or makes a rookie mistake.
Open wheel racing was already dangerous enough, expensive enough, and exciting enough. I hope these guys clean it up a little bit before there is another tragedy.
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Super Chuck thinks you are over thinking what the drivers are thinking. Or at least that's what he thinks.
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August 28, 2020 at
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Posted By: onporch on August 28 2020 at 08:06:41 AM
Has Kyle Larson made Revenge Racing the new normal in sprint car world ? I quit watching NASCAR a few years ago when it became Revenge Racing. I’ve tried to forget the details but I recall it centered around Joey Logano and his competitors’ determination to keep him from winning the cup championship.
Larson pulled a dirty slide attack on Schuchart in Knoxville and then Logan bumped him into the infield last weekend. Some claimed Logan sought revenge.
Dietrich and Rahmer seem to be out for revenge.
Apparently some folks feel that Reutzel deserved the dirty pass he got from Dietrich last night. Folks are already talking about revenge and “karma”.
Mid summer Danny Dietrich said this: “ya know like tonight’s one of those nights where you just kinda gas her up and hope and hope that you don’t crash and ahhh.....I MEAN THAT’S WHAT KYLE DOES AND IT WORKS OUT SOMETIMES.” So Danny is using Kyle and his success to justify his own aggressive driving.
In 2009 – 2019 Donny Schatz was the top driver and the cleanest driver and an inspiration for all sprint car drivers. Dirty racing wasn’t cool. What happened ?? This year we have Larson out there banging wheels nightly and constantly getting praise for his amaaaaaazing car control while folks look the other way each time he wins dirty, risks lives, has a “racing incident”, or makes a rookie mistake.
Open wheel racing was already dangerous enough, expensive enough, and exciting enough. I hope these guys clean it up a little bit before there is another tragedy.
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Exactly what I was thinking.
Larson, Reutzel, and others have taken clean racing out of sprint car racing and replaced it with "bump and run"!
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August 28, 2020 at
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DD giving someone a wheel banger isn't anything new and was going on long before Larson showed up. Rahmer just needed to watch his dad and he could have learned all he ever needed to know about aggressive driving.
DD is right - sometimes you gas it up and close your eyes and hope it works. "Win it or wear it", "checkers or wreckers"?
It's been interesting watching Larson mix it up with various drivers. How about he and Rico down at the Ironman? DirtVision said it best "Rico just fed Larson some wheel"!
I agree with Super Chuck and what he thinks. At least what he thinks he thinks!
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August 28, 2020 at
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Friends are made in the pits, not on the track. Lead, follow or get the fuck out of the way...
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August 28, 2020 at
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They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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August 28, 2020 at
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I agree that DD tries to do what Larson does but he just runs out of talent.
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August 28, 2020 at
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Posted By: beezr2002 on August 28 2020 at 04:02:20 PM
I agree that DD tries to do what Larson does but he just runs out of talent.
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come on folks..... this isn't anything new. I think a large part of this comes from a perspective that if you allow yourself to be dumped, crashed etc, it shows weakness and invites more. This has been part of sprint car racing for as long as I've been attending.
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August 28, 2020 at
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. A lot of macho drama and hillbilly reality TV type stuff. Truth is, once the lawyers get involved, the fun's over with. If you brag about taking somebody out, or say he has it coming, what happens next time you take him out and he gets hurt? Even a bad lawyer could win that multimillion dollar lawsuit.
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August 28, 2020 at
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Posted By: Super Chuck on August 28 2020 at 09:53:11 AM
Super Chuck thinks you are over thinking what the drivers are thinking. Or at least that's what he thinks.
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Egras agrees with super chuck. egras thinks this has been going on since there were 2 cars trying to be faster than one another. egras thinks this is actually not even worth posting about. 
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August 29, 2020 at
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August 29, 2020 at
06:31:20 AM by onporch
Thanks for all your input and feedback. I’m glad to see at least a couple folks have been watching the same races I have. I was starting to wonder about that.
Danny impressed me during the first half of this year. He had some success with WoO and ASCOC and stayed out of trouble. It looked like he had matured as a driver and reached another level. But things changed after PA Speed Week which was when the “that’s what Kyle does…” interview took place. Since then Danny seems to try to find any way to win whether it be dirty and/or aggressive and he is getting REALLY good at it. In the last 8 races in PA, he has 6 wins and two 2nd place finishes. Now he wins all the time and “that’s what Kyle does”.
Super Chuck deserves a pat on the back from Super Chuck for being Super correct. Onporch likes clean open wheel racing and overthinks stuff too much. Onporch also enjoys watching amateur street stocks trading paint in an environment a where a bump & run isn’t so catastrophic or expensive. Onporch knows the difference between fendered racing and open wheel racing and can appreciate both.
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August 29, 2020 at
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+1 regarding Ruetzel
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August 29, 2020 at
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Yea king kinser, Slammin sammy, shatz they all slowed down when passing other cars. Steve would move you in a heartbeat. Sammy, well the name fits him, he ran over more people, including me chasing kinser than you can count. DS uses his share of competitors up in a corner also. But I will say this this. Mention any past champion in central pa from Paxton to snell baker to Freddie and Kaufman you gave them room to get in under you in a corner you bet your ass they were going to lean on you. It's all a part of racing and every driver out there understands that, we'll except for people that have never strapped in.
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August 29, 2020 at
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August 29, 2020 at
10:51:16 PM by Dlucks83
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Posted By: alum.427 on August 29 2020 at 12:10:17 PM
Yea king kinser, Slammin sammy, shatz they all slowed down when passing other cars. Steve would move you in a heartbeat. Sammy, well the name fits him, he ran over more people, including me chasing kinser than you can count. DS uses his share of competitors up in a corner also. But I will say this this. Mention any past champion in central pa from Paxton to snell baker to Freddie and Kaufman you gave them room to get in under you in a corner you bet your ass they were going to lean on you. It's all a part of racing and every driver out there understands that, we'll except for people that have never strapped in.
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Seriously... Whole lot of pearl clutching going on. People acting like Fat Freddie wasn't using everyone up especially towards the end.
Hell, I'm not exactly sure where all this nonsense is coming from about Larson. He has an aggressive attack the track style but he's pretty damn clean.
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