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x83fan
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October 07, 2019 at 05:23:18 PM
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I dont care if you bash, chastise, or criticize me for bringing nascar to this forum, Larson's playoff win yesterday i believe has a residual impact on sprint car racing. the sooner he wins championships and is satisfied with his career, the sooner he returns to his real passion, as well as the more he makes, the odds of him fielding another car increase. I know first hand he's a give back kinda guy, been doing it since he left some 6 years ago. you go to races around here-Ca.- & his presence in one way or another is usually felt. from the first time we went into the pits to see this 15 year old kid, we've been thrilled by his talent ever since, the ONLY reason i watch any nascar, and as long as he's racing, whatever he's racing, i'll follow him. folks back east and other areas besides out here get to see him race sprint cars way more than us, we are envious. BTW, all of this is just my honest opinion about one of the greatest all around racing talents of our era.




Dryslick Willie
October 07, 2019 at 08:34:47 PM
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Posted By: x83fan on October 07 2019 at 05:23:18 PM

I dont care if you bash, chastise, or criticize me for bringing nascar to this forum, Larson's playoff win yesterday i believe has a residual impact on sprint car racing. the sooner he wins championships and is satisfied with his career, the sooner he returns to his real passion, as well as the more he makes, the odds of him fielding another car increase. I know first hand he's a give back kinda guy, been doing it since he left some 6 years ago. you go to races around here-Ca.- & his presence in one way or another is usually felt. from the first time we went into the pits to see this 15 year old kid, we've been thrilled by his talent ever since, the ONLY reason i watch any nascar, and as long as he's racing, whatever he's racing, i'll follow him. folks back east and other areas besides out here get to see him race sprint cars way more than us, we are envious. BTW, all of this is just my honest opinion about one of the greatest all around racing talents of our era.



I'm the same way as far as watching NASCAR.   If Larson's in contention I watch.   Once he's out of contention I lose interest and watch something else.   Of course next year Christopher Bell will be there.    With regard to Larson eventually coming back to sprints full time I think that's a very long time off.   If anything I'd bet he'll wind up playing it about like Smoke did.   



turn4guy
October 07, 2019 at 08:35:10 PM
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This message was edited on October 07, 2019 at 08:35:58 PM by turn4guy

Same here ^^^




bgtexpress
October 07, 2019 at 10:09:48 PM
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Make that three......funny how "us sprint car fans think"



alum.427
October 08, 2019 at 05:53:38 AM
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Yea, he can't walk away from that pay check. I think if he can do a deal like KKR did you mite see him be a car owner sooner than some mite think. Remember he has nothing invested in the current ride. 



SAF92
October 08, 2019 at 08:07:14 AM
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Yep, I follow where Larson's running on twitter and only turn it on if Larson's been hanging around the top 5 or 10. I was totally giddy to see him finally break his winless streak. Hes always fast at Homestead... If somehow he can find a way to get in that final round of 4 I think hes got a really good shot at a championship.




Dollanskyfan1.1
October 08, 2019 at 03:09:03 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on October 08 2019 at 05:53:38 AM

Yea, he can't walk away from that pay check. I think if he can do a deal like KKR did you mite see him be a car owner sooner than some mite think. Remember he has nothing invested in the current ride. 



What about the 2 car? He owns part of that... 

 

I wish though he would invest more in sprint cars.


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revjimk
October 08, 2019 at 06:45:39 PM
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Interesting to see how "the outside world" looks at it...

Sounds like there's pressure on him to decide one way or the other? Or is this just some sportswriter trying to create controversy?

https://racing.ap.org/article/column-kyle-larson-finally-poised-answer-expectations



x83fan
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October 08, 2019 at 06:58:53 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on October 07 2019 at 08:34:47 PM

I'm the same way as far as watching NASCAR.   If Larson's in contention I watch.   Once he's out of contention I lose interest and watch something else.   Of course next year Christopher Bell will be there.    With regard to Larson eventually coming back to sprints full time I think that's a very long time off.   If anything I'd bet he'll wind up playing it about like Smoke did.   



yeah dryslick, i guess that depends on what we consider a long time. i'm thinking by 40, like kyle mentioned previously, he'll be back where we want him, sky's the limit for that guy-he could have 2 teams & his own car, you never know. my original point, the better he gets, more titles, more $$$, come back to his real passion. either way, i always follow him thru the race unless something happens and takes him out. Was just really jacked for him breaking that winless streak the way he did, securing a position in the next round. If he goes to Miami as a top 4, we're looking at the 1st of many titles!




x83fan
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October 08, 2019 at 07:06:08 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 08 2019 at 06:45:39 PM

Interesting to see how "the outside world" looks at it...

Sounds like there's pressure on him to decide one way or the other? Or is this just some sportswriter trying to create controversy?

https://racing.ap.org/article/column-kyle-larson-finally-poised-answer-expectations



good reading. thanks rev



egras
October 08, 2019 at 08:02:56 PM
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Posted By: x83fan on October 07 2019 at 05:23:18 PM

I dont care if you bash, chastise, or criticize me for bringing nascar to this forum, Larson's playoff win yesterday i believe has a residual impact on sprint car racing. the sooner he wins championships and is satisfied with his career, the sooner he returns to his real passion, as well as the more he makes, the odds of him fielding another car increase. I know first hand he's a give back kinda guy, been doing it since he left some 6 years ago. you go to races around here-Ca.- & his presence in one way or another is usually felt. from the first time we went into the pits to see this 15 year old kid, we've been thrilled by his talent ever since, the ONLY reason i watch any nascar, and as long as he's racing, whatever he's racing, i'll follow him. folks back east and other areas besides out here get to see him race sprint cars way more than us, we are envious. BTW, all of this is just my honest opinion about one of the greatest all around racing talents of our era.



I record every Monster Energy Cup race.  I always pay attention to where Larson qualified and what his practice speeds were.  I usually forget about the Saturday night races, but at some point on Sunday afternoon, I pull up the recording and start to fast-forward through it to see where he is running and if he is trending forward or backwards.  Like many on here, I decide to watch or turn off based on where he is running.  I watched the last 75-80 laps on Sunday because I knew he was in contention to win.  Much like you, I want him to hurry up and get this over with!!  Smile  But, before he does, I want him to reach the top of the Nascar world so he is not viewed someone who returned to dirt because he couldn't win there.  I want him to return to dirt AFTER winning it all, and bring some Sunday fans with him!!

 

 



SAF92
October 09, 2019 at 07:42:54 AM
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Posted By: Dollanskyfan1.1 on October 08 2019 at 03:09:03 PM

What about the 2 car? He owns part of that... 

 

I wish though he would invest more in sprint cars.



He owns the whole deal now. Its no longer "Larson Marks Racing"... Now just "Kyle Larson Racing."




Nick14
October 09, 2019 at 08:36:21 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on October 08 2019 at 06:45:39 PM

Interesting to see how "the outside world" looks at it...

Sounds like there's pressure on him to decide one way or the other? Or is this just some sportswriter trying to create controversy?

https://racing.ap.org/article/column-kyle-larson-finally-poised-answer-expectations



I would take the article with a grain of salt. Saw the author was Jenna Fryer and in my opinion she notoriously tries to create controversy or add drama to a situation. When I followed Nascar for years a lot of her articles seemed to be more opinioned based versus fact. Fact of the matter is that Larson is & has been a hyped talent and has been justified by performance & his peers. Other fact is he drives for Ganassi who does have good equipment but also is now advancing the furthest it ever has in the points/playoffs since that organization has come to Nascar. As it says the organization almost won a title with Sterling Marlin and since then has not accomplished a lot as far as titles.

She is also someone who seems to be of the opinion that Nascar is the pinnacle of racing and any other form of racing is below it. Her and other Nascar media members including David Newton criticized Tony Stewart's extra dirt racing when his performance started slipping in the 2012 season, ignoring the fact he raced the same amount the prior year and winning a championship. Then they finally had their justification when he broke his leg in 2013 and continued the theme that Nascar drivers should just race Nascar even if it means breaking your leg in one if its lower tiered divisions (see Kyle Busch). But then again you can get a pass and still race for & win a championship under those circumstances which was the beginning of the end for me. They feel if its not Nascar, its minor league or beer league.

As far as the others wanting Larson to win the title(s) to get to running sprints full time, I would say don't hold your breath. Kyle is a racing fan who grew up a Nascar fan (Jeff Gordon) as well. He did have aspirations of running Nascar at a young age and has said that. Yes, sprint car racing is his passion and he will always do it probably till he's 60+ but I think he will hold onto the Nascar dream as long as the performance is there.



egras
October 09, 2019 at 09:07:54 AM
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Posted By: Nick14 on October 09 2019 at 08:36:21 AM

I would take the article with a grain of salt. Saw the author was Jenna Fryer and in my opinion she notoriously tries to create controversy or add drama to a situation. When I followed Nascar for years a lot of her articles seemed to be more opinioned based versus fact. Fact of the matter is that Larson is & has been a hyped talent and has been justified by performance & his peers. Other fact is he drives for Ganassi who does have good equipment but also is now advancing the furthest it ever has in the points/playoffs since that organization has come to Nascar. As it says the organization almost won a title with Sterling Marlin and since then has not accomplished a lot as far as titles.

She is also someone who seems to be of the opinion that Nascar is the pinnacle of racing and any other form of racing is below it. Her and other Nascar media members including David Newton criticized Tony Stewart's extra dirt racing when his performance started slipping in the 2012 season, ignoring the fact he raced the same amount the prior year and winning a championship. Then they finally had their justification when he broke his leg in 2013 and continued the theme that Nascar drivers should just race Nascar even if it means breaking your leg in one if its lower tiered divisions (see Kyle Busch). But then again you can get a pass and still race for & win a championship under those circumstances which was the beginning of the end for me. They feel if its not Nascar, its minor league or beer league.

As far as the others wanting Larson to win the title(s) to get to running sprints full time, I would say don't hold your breath. Kyle is a racing fan who grew up a Nascar fan (Jeff Gordon) as well. He did have aspirations of running Nascar at a young age and has said that. Yes, sprint car racing is his passion and he will always do it probably till he's 60+ but I think he will hold onto the Nascar dream as long as the performance is there.



Well said.  Just a couple of comments:

I agree Kyle will likely race in Nascar while the money is falling from the sky----no doubt.  Maybe I was wrong to think winning a title would expedite his return to sprints----it may do the opposite.

 

Also, I like your reference to Jenna Fryer thinking Nascar is the pinnacle of racing.  I look at it totally different.  It is a fraternity for the rich and not the pinnacle in my book.  There have been a couple of party crashers----Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson top the list.  That is the main reason I pull for Larson so badly and the reason I will ALWAYS have respect for Stewart.  Yes, there is a lot of wealth in the WoO and sprint car land in general.  However, the percentage of spoiled brats, living on daddy's dollars in Nascar is FAR higher than it is in the dirt car world.  Larson is one of the few drivers who are sucking money FROM the organization vs. funneling money INTO the oraganization.  How can you not pull for him?  Also, what he is doing, he is doing with what appears to be a 2nd tier team.  Can you imagine the wins he would have had he waited for the #24 car?



hlfuzzball
October 09, 2019 at 09:25:19 AM
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The four leaf clover on the car must be the ingredient he was missing !

By the way, what the hell is the sponsor CLOVER anyway ? 




Nick14
October 09, 2019 at 11:49:14 AM
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Well said.  Just a couple of comments:

I agree Kyle will likely race in Nascar while the money is falling from the sky----no doubt.  Maybe I was wrong to think winning a title would expedite his return to sprints----it may do the opposite.

 

Also, I like your reference to Jenna Fryer thinking Nascar is the pinnacle of racing.  I look at it totally different.  It is a fraternity for the rich and not the pinnacle in my book.  There have been a couple of party crashers----Tony Stewart and Kyle Larson top the list.  That is the main reason I pull for Larson so badly and the reason I will ALWAYS have respect for Stewart.  Yes, there is a lot of wealth in the WoO and sprint car land in general.  However, the percentage of spoiled brats, living on daddy's dollars in Nascar is FAR higher than it is in the dirt car world.  Larson is one of the few drivers who are sucking money FROM the organization vs. funneling money INTO the oraganization.  How can you not pull for him?  Also, what he is doing, he is doing with what appears to be a 2nd tier team.  Can you imagine the wins he would have had he waited for the #24 car?



I agree with your assessment that it's not the Pinnacle & more of a fraternity. Unfortunately many of the media members who report on Nascar choose no other way of looking at it. They can't wrap their heads around the notion that a race car driver who races on national television, for millions of dollars, attended by tens of thousands of people, for one of the biggest brands of racing, would want to race any other race car for $5-10k at a dirt track attended by maybe 5k people on most nights? They look at it in the form of money numbers and associate money with quality.

I don't think any of them have done any actual journalism and attend a race such as what Jeff Gluck did last year at the Nationals. If they did then they would realize hey these are actual professionals whose goal is to some day win the Nationals, or National Open, or Kings Royal & not reach Nascar. They would realize these guys are not just some guys that do this as a hobby like softball. They do this because they want to win & want to do it for a living & Nascar is not the end all be all for every kid that grew up being a race fan. And for those who do want to go to Nascar, racing at the closest dirt track is no different than the 20 cup drivers racing in the truck & Xfinity series. It's just not Nascar branded



revjimk
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Posted By: Nick14 on October 09 2019 at 08:36:21 AM

I would take the article with a grain of salt. Saw the author was Jenna Fryer and in my opinion she notoriously tries to create controversy or add drama to a situation. When I followed Nascar for years a lot of her articles seemed to be more opinioned based versus fact. Fact of the matter is that Larson is & has been a hyped talent and has been justified by performance & his peers. Other fact is he drives for Ganassi who does have good equipment but also is now advancing the furthest it ever has in the points/playoffs since that organization has come to Nascar. As it says the organization almost won a title with Sterling Marlin and since then has not accomplished a lot as far as titles.

She is also someone who seems to be of the opinion that Nascar is the pinnacle of racing and any other form of racing is below it. Her and other Nascar media members including David Newton criticized Tony Stewart's extra dirt racing when his performance started slipping in the 2012 season, ignoring the fact he raced the same amount the prior year and winning a championship. Then they finally had their justification when he broke his leg in 2013 and continued the theme that Nascar drivers should just race Nascar even if it means breaking your leg in one if its lower tiered divisions (see Kyle Busch). But then again you can get a pass and still race for & win a championship under those circumstances which was the beginning of the end for me. They feel if its not Nascar, its minor league or beer league.

As far as the others wanting Larson to win the title(s) to get to running sprints full time, I would say don't hold your breath. Kyle is a racing fan who grew up a Nascar fan (Jeff Gordon) as well. He did have aspirations of running Nascar at a young age and has said that. Yes, sprint car racing is his passion and he will always do it probably till he's 60+ but I think he will hold onto the Nascar dream as long as the performance is there.



Thanks for the info. I didn't know anything about the writer since i don't follow NASCAR, but could sense her bias....



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  Young Money.............as a reminder; 2012 first time to the big E, midget, sprint car and silver crown wins. We knew in Ca. but then, everyone knew. He's gonna be a prolific name in motorsports. His office is a dangerous place to make his living. We lose hero's on the track every year. I wish him much success and enjoyment on his journy. Me, I'll go along with this thrilling young man's ride and be astonished at his accomplishments in the years to come, I'm sure of it.


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x83fan
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October 14, 2019 at 02:31:13 PM
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  Young Money.............as a reminder; 2012 first time to the big E, midget, sprint car and silver crown wins. We knew in Ca. but then, everyone knew. He's gonna be a prolific name in motorsports. His office is a dangerous place to make his living. We lose hero's on the track every year. I wish him much success and enjoyment on his journy. Me, I'll go along with this thrilling young man's ride and be astonished at his accomplishments in the years to come, I'm sure of it.



2012, kyle's coming out party. and yes, us Ca. fans knew & we spoke of his stardom while others questioned until he showed up in their hood; belleville, iowa, eldora, track record at anderson 1st time on pavement, & so on. couldn't have said it better fivecity with words like thrilling, astonished, prolific.  probably see you this week in tulare



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Posted By: x83fan on October 14 2019 at 02:31:13 PM

2012, kyle's coming out party. and yes, us Ca. fans knew & we spoke of his stardom while others questioned until he showed up in their hood; belleville, iowa, eldora, track record at anderson 1st time on pavement, & so on. couldn't have said it better fivecity with words like thrilling, astonished, prolific.  probably see you this week in tulare



 I treasure my friends and fellow sprint car brothers and sisters. I will miss this years Cotton as well as Cup x83fan. Was battling a painful foe and a killer. Diagnosed June 2018 and survived. 10 months of hospital stay, only to be physically devastated. 139lb from 210lb is catastrophic for mobility.  Home on Aug 1, 2019 I came back to my beloved Oceano next to Pismo Beach. I'm cancer free and so yearn for the smell of methanol and campsite familiar faces and laughter.   You can belive we will crosspaths at a Cali dirt track next season. I'm easy to locate turns 1, cowboy lid, guitar and acting like a 12yr old jumpin'-pumpin' my fist, cheering and generally having the time of my life. Never cared what others thought, cause they are behind me and my grin is always larger than theirs. Looking forward to your company. By the way streller field  for this year's cup. Freddie Rhamer in BK #69. Hope he makes it out to the Thunderbowl for some Cali bull ring bravery. I'll be looking for y'all on the Cushion stream.

  Jac is in (white) #24 Abaru Vineyards.  Cory Eliason, Rudeen #24.    Khane #4 with unnamed pilot. Sweet was driving in '13 when Larson was magical. Enjoy my friend. �����


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