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Hodnettfan27
October 01, 2019 at 08:17:51 AM
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Anticipated car count? 




Nick14
October 01, 2019 at 09:29:46 AM
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Last year was 49 from what the Outlaw's result page show. Looks like the Tuscarora 50 had 53cars. Not sure which would be the best to go off of. On one hand if you take the 53 from Port Royal a few weeks ago and add the Outlaw drivers that gets you over 60 but, then again with motors and other issues it may not be the best to go off of. 

Qualifying Flight-A: 1. 71-Giovanni Scelzi, 16.25; 2. 11-T.J. Stutts, 16.318; 3. 1S-Logan Schuchart, 16.41; 4. O7-Gerard McIntyre, 16.441; 5. 21X-Brian Montieth, 16.483; 6. 5-David Gravel, 16.504; 7. 4-Brock Zearfoss, 16.541; 8. 2-Shane Stewart, 16.546; 9. 49-Brad Sweet, 16.588; 10. 1-Logan Wagner, 16.596; 11. 27-Paul McMahan, 16.606; 12. 1A-Jacob Allen, 16.612; 13. 11K-Kraig Kinser, 16.625; 14. 99M-Kyle Moody, 16.66; 15. 51-Freddie Rahmer, 16.662; 16. 99-Bud Kaeding, 16.689; 17. 19-Brent Marks, 16.722; 18. 48-Danny Dietrich, 16.832; 19. 39M-Anthony Macri, 16.936; 20. W20-Greg Wilson, 16.943; 21. 67-Justin Whittall, 16.992; 22. 27S-Adrian Shaffer, 17.193; 23. 28F-Davie Franek, 17.261; 24. 15G-Jordan Givler, 17.548; 25. 44-Trey Starks, NT

Qualifying Flight-B: 1. 21-Brian Brown, 16.487; 2. 49X-Tim Shaffer, 16.518; 3. 69K-Lance Dewease, 16.538; 4. 15-Donny Schatz, 16.54; 5. 9-Daryn Pittman, 16.556; 6. 94-Ryan Smith, 16.602; 7. 55K-Robbie Kendall, 16.66; 8. 39-Cory Haas, 16.675; 9. 41-Carson Macedo, 16.706; 10. 17-Sheldon Haudenschild, 16.728; 11. 18-Ian Madsen, 16.733; 12. 1X-Chad Trout, 16.743; 13. 1W-Chase Dietz, 16.774; 14. 24-Lucas Wolfe, 16.778; 15. 17B-Steve Buckwalter, 16.801; 16. 87-Alan Krimes, 16.846; 17. 7S-Jason Sides, 16.874; 18. 19M-Jac Haudenschild, 16.906; 19. 88-Brandon Rahmer, 16.986; 20. 58-Jim Siegel, 16.998; 21. 35-Justin Henderson, 17.096; 22. 91-Kyle Reinhardt, 17.316; 23. 75-Nicole Bower, 17.35; 24. 12W-Troy Fraker, 17.836

Pos Start Driver Hometown Car Time
1 39 Logan Wagner Harrisonville, PA 1 17.893
2 18 Cory Eliason Visalia, CA 26 17.916
3 10 Lance Dewease Fayetteville, PA 69K 17.929
4 9 James McFadden Warrnambool, QLD 9 17.946
5 14 Aaron Reutzel Clute, TX 87 17.957
6 52 Danny Dietrich Gettysburg, PA 48 17.998
7 38 Brian Brown Grain Valley, MO 21B 18.020
8 23 Anthony Macri Dillsburg, PA 39M 18.024
9 30 Dylan Cisney Port Royal, PA 5 18.086
10 25 Ryan Taylor Perkasie, PA 20 18.340
11 7 Tyler Walton Mifflintown, PA 14T 18.371
12 4 Kerry Madsen Knoxville, IA 2M 18.395
13 43 A.J. Flick Apollo, PA 2 18.424
14 2 Brock Zearfoss Jonestown, PA 70 18.537
15 33 Ryan Smith Kunkletown, PA 72 18.558
16 26 Paul McMahan Nashville, TN 13 18.583
17 46 Dan Shetler Johnstown, PA 29P 18.678
18 42 T.J. Stutts Liverpool, PA 11S 18.697
19 50 Freddie Rahmer Salfordville, PA 51 18.706
20 5 Blane Heimbach Selinsgrove, PA 12 18.727
21 20 Justin Peck Monrovia, IN 70X 18.772
22 16 Dave Blaney High Point, NC 98H 18.824
23 28 Mike Wagner Harrisonville, PA 55 18.846
24 49 Dale Blaney Hartford, OH 11 18.873
25 35 Alan Krimes Denver, PA 87K 18.888
26 8 Steve Buckwalter Royersford, PA 17B 18.914
27 19 Tony Stewart Columbus, IN 14 18.934
28 32 Lynton Jeffrey Prairie City, IA 83 18.950
29 37 Cory Haas Dallastown, PA 39 18.990
30 27 Tim Shaffer Aliquippa, PA 3J 19.009
31 6 Jeff Miller Huntingdon, PA 57J 19.013
32 13 Chad Kemenah Findlay, OH K4 19.020
33 31 Giovanni Scelzi Fresno, CA 71 19.028
34 3 Sye Lynch Apollo, PA 42 19.063
35 24 Tyler Bear Elliottsburg, PA 10 19.067
36 17 Skylar Gee Leduc, AB 99 19.160
37 44 Brian Montieth Phoenixville, PA 21 19.181
38 29 Chase Dietz York, PA 75 19.207
39 11 Nicole Bower Mechanicsburg, PA 75B 19.252
40 34 John Garvin Sarver, PA J4 19.261
41 51 Gerard McIntyre Jr New Oxford, PA 07 19.292
42 47 Trey Starks Puyallup, WA 44 19.308
43 22 George Hobaugh Jr. Chicora, PA 40 19.309
44 53 Jared Esh Lancaster, PA 33 19.310
45 40 Kyle Smith Great Barrington, MA 17M 19.385
46 1 Brie (Brianna) Hershey Dillsburg, PA 97 19.397
47 41 Brett Michalski Penndel, PA 73B 19.486
48 15 Landon Myers York, PA 19M 19.538
49 48 Tyler Reeser Orwigsburg, PA 35 19.584
50 36 Greg Wilson Benton Ridge, OH W20 19.743
51 12 Trenton Sheaffer Richfield, PA 8S 19.865
52 45 Josh Baughman Odessa, TX 17 19.907
53 21 Dustin Baney Selinsgrove, PA 24B 20.033


dsc1600
October 01, 2019 at 09:41:22 AM
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I assume you can take however many were in field on Friday, add the 13 Outlaws and 5 or 6 outsiders who were at Eldora last week end. 49 to 52 is probably a good range.




bgtexpress
October 01, 2019 at 11:04:19 AM
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I am predicting 50 cars.....it is still the Williams Grove National Open and $65,000 to win. To be honest, that is a perfect amount in my opinion.



alum.427
October 01, 2019 at 01:20:57 PM
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Greatest race on the east coast. Every pa guy comes loaded to win this one. Never been disappointed in 30 yrs



longtimemitchfan
October 01, 2019 at 01:38:17 PM
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Saw on the Grove Press Release Tim Shaffer listed any chance he will be in Tonys car or the KKR #9.




revjimk
October 01, 2019 at 02:17:34 PM
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Posted By: bgtexpress on October 01 2019 at 11:04:19 AM

I am predicting 50 cars.....it is still the Williams Grove National Open and $65,000 to win. To be honest, that is a perfect amount in my opinion.



It would be perfect if I won it! Smile

I went to an Allstar race in Upstate NY  a couple of years ago, & 50/50 winner got more than race winner, over $7,000...



pwf46
October 01, 2019 at 06:14:29 PM
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on October 01 2019 at 01:38:17 PM

Saw on the Grove Press Release Tim Shaffer listed any chance he will be in Tonys car or the KKR #9.



He will be driving a second Jason Sides 7s.



fiXXXer
October 01, 2019 at 07:07:51 PM
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Posted By: alum.427 on October 01 2019 at 01:20:57 PM

Greatest race on the east coast. Every pa guy comes loaded to win this one. Never been disappointed in 30 yrs



100% agreed. September has really become a huge month in PA. Port Royal has stepped up things with the 50 and we now have the Dirt Classic which has become a huge deal but none of them are in the same category as the Williams Grove National Open. It has an atmosphere like none other. No other race around here feels like more of an event than the Open. You hear driver's say all the time that they approach it like it's just another race but we all know that's B.S. When it comes to Central PA, this is the one that EVERYBODY wants. Should be another great weekend. Really looking forward to it.




BStrawser26
October 04, 2019 at 08:34:07 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on October 01 2019 at 07:07:51 PM

100% agreed. September has really become a huge month in PA. Port Royal has stepped up things with the 50 and we now have the Dirt Classic which has become a huge deal but none of them are in the same category as the Williams Grove National Open. It has an atmosphere like none other. No other race around here feels like more of an event than the Open. You hear driver's say all the time that they approach it like it's just another race but we all know that's B.S. When it comes to Central PA, this is the one that EVERYBODY wants. Should be another great weekend. Really looking forward to it.



National Open is simply the best race in Central PA.  Can't wait to hear the roar of the engines both nights. 


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

bgtexpress
October 04, 2019 at 08:56:59 AM
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One of my favorite weekends of the year.....looks like mother nature will cooperate with a coo,l but rain free weekend......



Paintboss
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October 04, 2019 at 11:11:13 AM
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Posted By: fiXXXer on October 01 2019 at 07:07:51 PM

100% agreed. September has really become a huge month in PA. Port Royal has stepped up things with the 50 and we now have the Dirt Classic which has become a huge deal but none of them are in the same category as the Williams Grove National Open. It has an atmosphere like none other. No other race around here feels like more of an event than the Open. You hear driver's say all the time that they approach it like it's just another race but we all know that's B.S. When it comes to Central PA, this is the one that EVERYBODY wants. Should be another great weekend. Really looking forward to it.



Envious! 2 days of screaming 410's in PA.. Crickets chirping in Iowa... :-(




BeerFriends410s
October 04, 2019 at 12:56:07 PM
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I gotta disagree. The Natty Open ain't what it used to be. Mostly because of the track itself. Not a single improvement has been made to the track in 20+ years. The owner simply does not care about the people who really pay the bills, the fans. If Port and the Grove ran on the same week night, I would choose Port Royal every single time, no matter what. And PR is further away for me. 



lpjazz
October 04, 2019 at 01:44:46 PM
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Been to the National Open several times and wish I could be there this weekend, but it just wasn't in the cards with work.  In my opinion, very little can compare to the event.  You have a big purse, most of the greatest drivers on the planet, a historic speedway, and a legendary whose who of winners to this race.  Sure you can say many things about improving this event and the track (although not much with the event and would love to hear all of the improvements to the facility.......watch what I ask for!!), but the fact remains, they will get a huge crowd for the weekend (Camping area jammed, Parking the over flow of cars in the old amusement park) and the racing will be second to none with an us verses them vibe from the locals.  

Could the facility use an update.....probably in some ways, but it also could be a housing development and that would be tragic!!  Very little argument with the surface they produce on Outlaw events.  (those are the ones that I can speak of!)  Surface can't be too bad as they will draw a nice size field this weekend.

I have been to many tracks from Attica, Lernerville, Wayne County, Eldora, Charlotte Dirt Track, Knoxville, Williams Grove, Lincoln, Sharon, Portsmouth, East Bay, Ascot and several others.  Each track has its own great characteristics and its shortcomings and I love attending each and every one of them, but the atmosphere and racing at the National Open is in my top 3.  

 



BigRightRear
October 04, 2019 at 05:33:28 PM
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I am hearing mid 50 cars are here...and unlike Knoxville...all outlaws have to run both nights.

So the only thing that will split the field is the B main and provisionals. 

Maybe this is why the Mississippi is too wide to cross in harvest season?

 


Lincoln 1845 ft/.35 mile T1=118MPH 
Eldora 2287 ft/.43mile T3=135MPH
Port 2716 ft/.51 mile T3=TBD
Grove 2792 ft/.53 mile T3=135MPH
Selinsgrove 2847 ft/.54 mile T1=136MPH
"I didn't move to PA from El Paso in search of better 
weather." Van May


Murphy
October 04, 2019 at 05:47:47 PM
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Posted By: BeerFriends410s on October 04 2019 at 12:56:07 PM

I gotta disagree. The Natty Open ain't what it used to be. Mostly because of the track itself. Not a single improvement has been made to the track in 20+ years. The owner simply does not care about the people who really pay the bills, the fans. If Port and the Grove ran on the same week night, I would choose Port Royal every single time, no matter what. And PR is further away for me. 



     I'm not from the ara, so I have no reason to quibble. The closest I've ever been is watching on TV.  What improvements does the track need that have been put off for 20 years?



oldtom
October 04, 2019 at 05:58:24 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on October 04 2019 at 05:47:47 PM

     I'm not from the ara, so I have no reason to quibble. The closest I've ever been is watching on TV.  What improvements does the track need that have been put off for 20 years?



Though I'd hear some racket here-Schatz's car appears to have some funny lookin headers on tonight?????LOL



fiXXXer
October 04, 2019 at 09:12:48 PM
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Posted By: BeerFriends410s on October 04 2019 at 12:56:07 PM

I gotta disagree. The Natty Open ain't what it used to be. Mostly because of the track itself. Not a single improvement has been made to the track in 20+ years. The owner simply does not care about the people who really pay the bills, the fans. If Port and the Grove ran on the same week night, I would choose Port Royal every single time, no matter what. And PR is further away for me. 



You can choose whatever track you want but it doesn't change the fact that the National Open is the premier race for sprint cars in the Northeast and is one of the crown jewel events in the sport. Knoxville, Kings Royal, National Open in that order. Port Royal has made the Tuscarora 50 a marquee event, no doubt about it. It has a deep history of it's own but it isn't the National Open and as long as there's a Williams Grove Speedway, it never will be. 




fiXXXer
October 04, 2019 at 09:14:58 PM
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This message was edited on October 04, 2019 at 09:18:50 PM by fiXXXer
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Posted By: Paintboss on October 04 2019 at 11:11:13 AM

Envious! 2 days of screaming 410's in PA.. Crickets chirping in Iowa... :-(



It's been a good night so far. Track started off very fast but its coming nicely. The C-Main just lined up and it has equal quality to a lot of A-Mains we see around here. Gonna be a lot of good stuff go on the trailer tonight and tomorrow.



fiXXXer
October 04, 2019 at 09:16:57 PM
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Posted By: lpjazz on October 04 2019 at 01:44:46 PM

Been to the National Open several times and wish I could be there this weekend, but it just wasn't in the cards with work.  In my opinion, very little can compare to the event.  You have a big purse, most of the greatest drivers on the planet, a historic speedway, and a legendary whose who of winners to this race.  Sure you can say many things about improving this event and the track (although not much with the event and would love to hear all of the improvements to the facility.......watch what I ask for!!), but the fact remains, they will get a huge crowd for the weekend (Camping area jammed, Parking the over flow of cars in the old amusement park) and the racing will be second to none with an us verses them vibe from the locals.  

Could the facility use an update.....probably in some ways, but it also could be a housing development and that would be tragic!!  Very little argument with the surface they produce on Outlaw events.  (those are the ones that I can speak of!)  Surface can't be too bad as they will draw a nice size field this weekend.

I have been to many tracks from Attica, Lernerville, Wayne County, Eldora, Charlotte Dirt Track, Knoxville, Williams Grove, Lincoln, Sharon, Portsmouth, East Bay, Ascot and several others.  Each track has its own great characteristics and its shortcomings and I love attending each and every one of them, but the atmosphere and racing at the National Open is in my top 3.  

 



Dead on the money. 





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