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September 27, 2019 at
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Posted By: Bill W on September 27 2019 at 08:48:51 AM
A top five without Gus Schrader is not a top five...nor is a top ten without Emory Collins...and the original post without Jan Opperman? This must be a "last thirty years" list?
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? I see Jan Opperman listed in my first post. I got to see Opperman race exactly once. It was in the late 70's at Black Hills Speedway. This was after he had recovered from his first crash. He wasn't very competitive but it was cool to see him.
things like this are always subjective, as everybody's 'top 10' would be through his own perspectives and biases. For example, I would put Wolfgang ahead of Swindell, as would some others. But I see several people have them reversed. To each his own opinion, but.....if you had a 2 car race that involved Wolfgang in his prime verses Swinell in his prime, my money would be on Wolfgang.
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September 27, 2019 at
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Many say opperman never recovered from that first crash and that is what led to his total disability .
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September 27, 2019 at
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Posted By: Super Chuck on September 27 2019 at 07:38:00 AM
Super Chuck appreciates your list, but Lasoski has 451 career wins, 11 Knoxville Track Titles and both NSL titles.
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He needs to update his website then... http://www.dannylasoski.com/about/
Anyone know how many wins Dave Darland has?
They don't even know how to spell sprint car
much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com
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September 27, 2019 at
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You can't compare drivers who made their hay 15 years ago or more to today's drivers. 15 years ago a few drivers were running engines with 100+ HP more than the other cars in the field. One a few drivers totally dominated wins. Often lapping 3/4 of the cars most evenings. Today the table is fair. Everyone has the same equipment. Even the lower budgeted teams. I remember when Bobby Allen started that two car team out of one hauler. Everyone on this site said they would not be able to compete for wins or shampionships due to not having what was needed, i.e. back up equipment and money for expensive shocks etc. Well, they do compete and very well. Some teams of course have fresher engines due to having money to freshen them more often than others can afford to do.
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September 28, 2019 at
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Posted By: dirtraceorbust on September 27 2019 at 10:58:21 PM
You can't compare drivers who made their hay 15 years ago or more to today's drivers. 15 years ago a few drivers were running engines with 100+ HP more than the other cars in the field. One a few drivers totally dominated wins. Often lapping 3/4 of the cars most evenings. Today the table is fair. Everyone has the same equipment. Even the lower budgeted teams. I remember when Bobby Allen started that two car team out of one hauler. Everyone on this site said they would not be able to compete for wins or shampionships due to not having what was needed, i.e. back up equipment and money for expensive shocks etc. Well, they do compete and very well. Some teams of course have fresher engines due to having money to freshen them more often than others can afford to do.
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I just shake my head at the recency bias on this site. So the early 2000s were like Fred Flintstone racing in the Indianrockapolis 500?
By your metirc, not only are A.J. Foyt and Jan Opperman and Tommy Hinnershitz irrelevant, so are Doug Wolfgang and largely Steve Kinser.
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September 28, 2019 at
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September 28, 2019 at
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Steve Kinser
Eddie Leavitt
Jerry Blundy
Dave Darland
Pancho Carter
Doug Wolfgang
Ron Shuman
Dean Thompson
Sammy Swindell
Gary Bettenhausen
Kenny Weld
Dick Sutcliffe
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September 28, 2019 at
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I know it was a long time ago when I was a young pup but does anyone remember a guy named Max Maclendon he came to the Grove in a #55 and at the time was one of the top in the country ,I remember he did not win but ran good not sure of where he was from or where he raced.
At that time guys like #35 Adamson ,@27 Cochran ,# 10 Blaney #69 Linder all invaded Pa.
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September 28, 2019 at
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Posted By: egras on September 27 2019 at 10:02:13 AM
I didn't exist before 1973, so it's unfair for someone my age to comment on the early era. We know only numbers in a book and online. There is no gauge for us to compare these numbers to. I've been told by many ol' timers the cars became more and more equal as time has gone by----that it ain't what it used to be when a car could consistently come through the field and win. Did they have more superior cars? Bigger pocketbooks? It's tough for me to judge. I have heard as the years go by "it's harder to win every year." The only list I can put together is based on things I either saw, or was alive to read about as they happened.
Cy Young has the most wins of any pitcher in MLB history-----but I can't put him on my top 5---maybe even 10. I didn't see him pitch. I heard about this era. Lots of "fast" balls. I feel like there may be 200 guys out there today in the majors and minors that have more "stuff" and talent than Cy Young did. But it's only a guess because I didn't get to see him. I don't feel right putting him on a list because of his massive win total back when they pitched 4 or 5 times a week. Different era.
So, I don't think anyone means any disrespect, but you are talking about guys from 40-50 years ago---before a lot of us were born. Hard to judge greatest of all time off of stats alone.
On the other hand, I truly appreciate those who did see them and their ranking in the top 10.
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200 guys in the majors & MINORS better than Cy Young????
Maybe a few, but 200 is absurd
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September 28, 2019 at
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Top 10 is too hard, especially considering different eras that people here have mentioned. Plus how about winged vs. non wing? Too many variables. I pretty much agree with original poster on Top 4, based on post WoO era...
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September 29, 2019 at
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Posted By: revjimk on September 28 2019 at 04:45:59 PM
200 guys in the majors & MINORS better than Cy Young????
Maybe a few, but 200 is absurd
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You made my point-----how do we know? If you can even say "maybe a few" currently, then that puts 100's of other pitchers ahead of him in the last 100 years. No way to compare then to now. Can't track the "spin-rate" on Cy's ball. We don't know anything but what his record was. I'm also a huge Bear's fan and Dick Butkus is one of my favorite players of all time------------but, those machines on the field today would run his ass over!!! He wouldn't even make the team with the linebackers on the Bear's team in 2019!
My point is, it is so difficult to say top 10 of all time without asking this question: Are we comparing them to each other, or their respective domination in their eras.
I have tremendous respect for all of them, but I can't rate those I didn't see.
(BTW, I always respect your opinion)
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September 29, 2019 at
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Posted By: longtimemitchfan on September 28 2019 at 01:03:30 PM
I know it was a long time ago when I was a young pup but does anyone remember a guy named Max Maclendon he came to the Grove in a #55 and at the time was one of the top in the country ,I remember he did not win but ran good not sure of where he was from or where he raced.
At that time guys like #35 Adamson ,@27 Cochran ,# 10 Blaney #69 Linder all invaded Pa.
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Post brings back memories. Here’s a couple more, Billy Casella(29 maybe)from West Virginia and Atlanta Georgia’s Herm Wise (22?). Remember the names but a bit fuzzy on the numbers.
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September 30, 2019 at
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Also remember Casella very well he drove the 35 after Adamson left then drove the 78 for Hamilton.Think his first car might have been that same #55 cant remember who owned it but was one of the top cars at that time Western Pa. and Ohio were way ahead of Central Pa. only Tilley in the #88 had anything close to a sprintcar.
Think Herm Wise came from Florida like Allen and Smith.
Anybodt from Western Pa. remember that #55 cant qoite remember who owned know he came in about the same year Henry Jacoby won the National Open and The mCmillan #5 came to Pa.
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