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WingedSpeed
September 08, 2018 at 09:34:26 PM
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Port track crew really out did themselves tonight on the track prep.  Pathetic track prep. Oh wait no track prep at all.  They had no plans on getting the show in.  Really feel bad for guys like Brian Brown coming the whole way in.m  Yes I know you can't control mother nature but had it not rained, it would have been a horrengous show.  




Murphy
September 08, 2018 at 10:21:47 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on September 08 2018 at 09:34:26 PM

Port track crew really out did themselves tonight on the track prep.  Pathetic track prep. Oh wait no track prep at all.  They had no plans on getting the show in.  Really feel bad for guys like Brian Brown coming the whole way in.m  Yes I know you can't control mother nature but had it not rained, it would have been a horrengous show.  



That is horrengous. 

 



Dlucks83
September 08, 2018 at 10:31:33 PM
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Gotta love dust and rubber in hot laps...




BStrawser26
September 09, 2018 at 07:04:25 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on September 08 2018 at 09:34:26 PM

Port track crew really out did themselves tonight on the track prep.  Pathetic track prep. Oh wait no track prep at all.  They had no plans on getting the show in.  Really feel bad for guys like Brian Brown coming the whole way in.m  Yes I know you can't control mother nature but had it not rained, it would have been a horrengous show.  



Not going to say a word....I watched hot laps on the computer.  I saw lap times in time trials.


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steelcityguy
September 09, 2018 at 07:08:32 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on September 08 2018 at 09:34:26 PM

Port track crew really out did themselves tonight on the track prep.  Pathetic track prep. Oh wait no track prep at all.  They had no plans on getting the show in.  Really feel bad for guys like Brian Brown coming the whole way in.m  Yes I know you can't control mother nature but had it not rained, it would have been a horrengous show.  



Not really a big deal for Brownie. He didn't just come for this race, he's sticking around for others so, really no effect on him. Don't think they'll be running the make up today, with the weather, so hopefully next weekend they squeeze it in.  Dust in hot laps??? Hell, I saw push trucks and tractors throwing dust and slicking off the track lol.



21maniac
September 09, 2018 at 09:45:43 AM
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Everyone's a track prep expert! SMH.




WingedSpeed
September 09, 2018 at 10:02:33 AM
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Posted By: 21maniac on September 09 2018 at 09:45:43 AM

Everyone's a track prep expert! SMH.



You never here me complain about Fred Putney's Lincoln track prep.



dsc1600
September 09, 2018 at 10:16:41 AM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on September 09 2018 at 10:02:33 AM

You never here me complain about Fred Putney's Lincoln track prep.



Hear* 

and Lincoln has had some clunkers over the years with big shows. 



bodine99
September 09, 2018 at 08:32:45 PM
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Everyone was bitching the track was to hooked up Friday and no passing. If they were out there with the water track on Saturday with the way the weather looked they would of been bitching about that.  No win situation for everyone.   They gave it a shot and I thank them!




BStrawser26
September 10, 2018 at 06:08:56 AM
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This message was edited on September 10, 2018 at 06:16:02 AM by BStrawser26
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Posted By: bodine99 on September 09 2018 at 08:32:45 PM

Everyone was bitching the track was to hooked up Friday and no passing. If they were out there with the water track on Saturday with the way the weather looked they would of been bitching about that.  No win situation for everyone.   They gave it a shot and I thank them!



No passing....you better get your stories straight.  There was a ton of passing in the feature.  Here are the 6 biggest movers from Friday nights show.  There were some that moved up 5 or less spots and I didn't include them.

Lets see the passing the night before the 50.

Brock - Started 11th finished 4th +7 spots

Lucas - Started 19th finished 6 +13 spots

Paul - Started 20th finished 8th +12 spots

Aaron - Started 23rd finished 9th +14 spots

Carson - Started 22nd finished 11th +11 spots

Mike - Started 25th finished 15th +10 spots

That is 6 drivers that improved a lot during the feature 5 of them improved double digits.  No passing now that is a joke. 

The track was a little too we and the crew couldn't help that since it did rain that afternoon. For best results the speeds during warmups and time trials should be in the high 15 second bracket for the top handful of cars and in the very low 16 second bracket for the next 10 to 20 cars....if you have it like that the track will be perfect by feature time.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

WingedSpeed
September 10, 2018 at 08:08:37 AM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 10 2018 at 06:08:56 AM

No passing....you better get your stories straight.  There was a ton of passing in the feature.  Here are the 6 biggest movers from Friday nights show.  There were some that moved up 5 or less spots and I didn't include them.

Lets see the passing the night before the 50.

Brock - Started 11th finished 4th +7 spots

Lucas - Started 19th finished 6 +13 spots

Paul - Started 20th finished 8th +12 spots

Aaron - Started 23rd finished 9th +14 spots

Carson - Started 22nd finished 11th +11 spots

Mike - Started 25th finished 15th +10 spots

That is 6 drivers that improved a lot during the feature 5 of them improved double digits.  No passing now that is a joke. 

The track was a little too we and the crew couldn't help that since it did rain that afternoon. For best results the speeds during warmups and time trials should be in the high 15 second bracket for the top handful of cars and in the very low 16 second bracket for the next 10 to 20 cars....if you have it like that the track will be perfect by feature time.



Agree 100%  Great race!  Saturday, dust flying in warm ups and 2.5 to 3 seconds slower in time trials.  Feature times would have been in the 20 second bracket.



WingedSpeed
September 10, 2018 at 08:09:38 AM
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Posted By: dsc1600 on September 09 2018 at 10:16:41 AM

Hear* 

and Lincoln has had some clunkers over the years with big shows. 



Maybe a couple over several years.  Certainly not almost every week like the Port.




wolfie2985
September 10, 2018 at 12:52:42 PM
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Posted By: BStrawser26 on September 10 2018 at 06:08:56 AM

No passing....you better get your stories straight.  There was a ton of passing in the feature.  Here are the 6 biggest movers from Friday nights show.  There were some that moved up 5 or less spots and I didn't include them.

Lets see the passing the night before the 50.

Brock - Started 11th finished 4th +7 spots

Lucas - Started 19th finished 6 +13 spots

Paul - Started 20th finished 8th +12 spots

Aaron - Started 23rd finished 9th +14 spots

Carson - Started 22nd finished 11th +11 spots

Mike - Started 25th finished 15th +10 spots

That is 6 drivers that improved a lot during the feature 5 of them improved double digits.  No passing now that is a joke. 

The track was a little too we and the crew couldn't help that since it did rain that afternoon. For best results the speeds during warmups and time trials should be in the high 15 second bracket for the top handful of cars and in the very low 16 second bracket for the next 10 to 20 cars....if you have it like that the track will be perfect by feature time.



Wait.....I've read this, like, 6 times and I'm pretty sure that Mr. Stawser is saying something positive about the Port here....but even after the 6th reading I'm having a hard time believing it.

Maybe someone hacked his log-in ????????? 



jz77
September 10, 2018 at 01:48:07 PM
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only 16 cars finished the race so a lot of the "passing" strawser talks of, especially outside of wolfe and zearfoss was probably not really passing.  One groove racing is the problem. Not lap times.  Top was too fast.  If the big cushion isn't there, then top and bottom are competitive and you see passing by better drivers and cars with better setups.    



HoldenCaulfield
September 10, 2018 at 04:05:56 PM
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Oh geez here we go. Do any of you track prep experts think that maybe they just maybe they didn't want to dump a lot of water on the track because of the forecast? Yeah TT's were slow and they were already up along the fence but the mist during TT's was actually starting to make the track faster and if the first 3 laps of that heat race was any indication, the racing was gonna be outstanding. Smooth, wide and multi-groove is what creates good racing, not flat out around the cushion. Yeah it's impressive to see them go warp speed. I enjoy that but I also enjoy a good multi-groove, dry slick race. One of the best Tuscarora 50's I can remember started out on a very slow, dry slick track. Monteith and Kreitz ended up battling back forth for the lead right to the end with Ryan Smith right behind them. 


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HoldenCaulfield
September 10, 2018 at 04:07:57 PM
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Posted By: WingedSpeed on September 09 2018 at 10:02:33 AM

You never here me complain about Fred Putney's Lincoln track prep.



Their new weekly format that starts the feature straight up from heat race finish has created no passing features all year.


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Curt8c
September 10, 2018 at 05:59:12 PM
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Posted By: jz77 on September 10 2018 at 01:48:07 PM

only 16 cars finished the race so a lot of the "passing" strawser talks of, especially outside of wolfe and zearfoss was probably not really passing.  One groove racing is the problem. Not lap times.  Top was too fast.  If the big cushion isn't there, then top and bottom are competitive and you see passing by better drivers and cars with better setups.    



+1



BStrawser26
September 10, 2018 at 06:03:06 PM
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Posted By: jz77 on September 10 2018 at 01:48:07 PM

only 16 cars finished the race so a lot of the "passing" strawser talks of, especially outside of wolfe and zearfoss was probably not really passing.  One groove racing is the problem. Not lap times.  Top was too fast.  If the big cushion isn't there, then top and bottom are competitive and you see passing by better drivers and cars with better setups.    



I watched the highlights and they were running more than one groove. Like I said mother nature threw them a curve not their fault.  Track was fast a little too fast. For the track to be at its best high 15 second brackets for TT and low 16 second brackets.  Any slower and the track will be used up before the heats are over....like most Saturday nights this year.  However, the last few were much better a lot more water in the track.

Aaron +14 and he didn't pass a single car

Paul +12 and he didn't pass a single car

Carson +11 and he didn't pass a single car

Mike +10 and he didn't pass a single car.

The only ones that pass anyone was lucas & Brock....now that has got to be the funniest thing I have ever read!!

I bet you have some swamp land somewhere you are selling too.


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

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Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!


BStrawser26
September 10, 2018 at 06:09:48 PM
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Posted By: wolfie2985 on September 10 2018 at 12:52:42 PM

Wait.....I've read this, like, 6 times and I'm pretty sure that Mr. Stawser is saying something positive about the Port here....but even after the 6th reading I'm having a hard time believing it.

Maybe someone hacked his log-in ????????? 



Yes, when over the last few races minus Labor day....very boring racing.  They have been doing a great job preparing the track.  It is more exciting when the cars can get a little grip in the feature...instead of sliding the whole way around the corners. 


Let's go Sprint Car Racing!

Knoxville - Best Track In the USA!
Eldora - 2nd Best Track in the USA!

longtimefan
September 10, 2018 at 06:37:53 PM
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The problem on Friday with the track so fast that if you didn't start in the first two rows of your heat you didn't have much chance to quailfy with that field. The heats were really boring. The feature was decent with passing although not as much as it seems with attrition which was high for the quality of the cars in it. There usually are not that many cars dropping out of races like that.





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