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3799
March 03, 2018 at 06:53:30 PM
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Freddie Rahmer had a front axle snap in hot laps causing him to flip today. Was all the talk about safety and tubing thickness just lip service.




sonoranrat
March 03, 2018 at 07:24:11 PM
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Posted By: 3799 on March 03 2018 at 06:53:30 PM

Freddie Rahmer had a front axle snap in hot laps causing him to flip today. Was all the talk about safety and tubing thickness just lip service.



First:  Was he injured ?  If yes, how seriously ?  If not, why the post ? Secondly:  Are you aware of the age of the material which failed ?  How many laps on the part that failed ? Metal no matter the thickness or Rockwell rating can suffer fatigue and fail.  Are you pontificating your personal agenda against XXX chassis ?



RickYohn
March 03, 2018 at 10:25:52 PM
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The “axel failure” was because of driver failure.  He hit the inside wall and that caused the axel to break.  The lap before he almost put it in the outside wall going into 1.  Guessing he was just a little rusty.  




asiseeit
March 04, 2018 at 12:20:49 AM
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I think you mean axle,  an "Axel" is a figure skating maneuver



revjimk
March 04, 2018 at 01:08:57 AM
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Posted By: asiseeit on March 04 2018 at 12:20:49 AM

I think you mean axle,  an "Axel" is a figure skating maneuver



No, he's a washed up rock singer wink



Dryslick Willie
March 04, 2018 at 04:52:25 AM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 04 2018 at 01:08:57 AM

No, he's a washed up rock singer wink



Actually that would be "Axl" and that washed up rock singer is still playing to some very full arenas... 




cubicdollars
March 04, 2018 at 07:05:06 AM
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Triple junk has consistently had front axle problems.

Chinese chromoly flexi flyer frames are one thing. Front axles not so much.

Or maybe they should try heating the building where they are welding them up.

The kids welding could see what they are doing thru their breath also.


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


maddog53
March 04, 2018 at 07:58:16 AM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on March 04 2018 at 04:52:25 AM

Actually that would be "Axl" and that washed up rock singer is still playing to some very full arenas... 



We all know that there is no accounting for taste lol



ILSPRINTS
March 04, 2018 at 08:27:06 AM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on March 04 2018 at 07:05:06 AM

Triple junk has consistently had front axle problems.

Chinese chromoly flexi flyer frames are one thing. Front axles not so much.

Or maybe they should try heating the building where they are welding them up.

The kids welding could see what they are doing thru their breath also.



Do you know that Ford and Chevy design car parts with failure rates as a priority?  The ensure they will make you pay for failing parts for years to come.


I tell it like I see it.


revjimk
March 04, 2018 at 01:20:37 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on March 04 2018 at 04:52:25 AM

Actually that would be "Axl" and that washed up rock singer is still playing to some very full arenas... 



I stand corrected

Never much cared for his stuff anyway



revjimk
March 04, 2018 at 01:39:22 PM
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Posted By: maddog53 on March 04 2018 at 07:58:16 AM

We all know that there is no accounting for taste lol



"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public" H.L. Mencken

NASCAR didn't exist when he said that, tho...



Dryslick Willie
March 04, 2018 at 02:42:35 PM
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Posted By: revjimk on March 04 2018 at 01:20:37 PM

I stand corrected

Never much cared for his stuff anyway



Me either.   Not a big Guns fan, but I did like the Velvet Revolver band that featured everyone from Guns N Roses without Axl.    Axl may not be washed up, just old and fat.  




revjimk
March 04, 2018 at 02:56:25 PM
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Posted By: Dryslick Willie on March 04 2018 at 02:42:35 PM

Me either.   Not a big Guns fan, but I did like the Velvet Revolver band that featured everyone from Guns N Roses without Axl.    Axl may not be washed up, just old and fat.  



& hopefully off heroin?



NZRACEFAN
March 04, 2018 at 05:52:18 PM
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He's off the junk, He's not fat, Just older, Is the  current lead singer for AC/DC and just finished the 4th highest grossing world tour of all time with Guns N Roses.

Not washed up.

Unfortunately rock music gets little recognition these days compared to pop music.



dirtdevil
March 04, 2018 at 09:56:10 PM
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Posted By: cubicdollars on March 04 2018 at 07:05:06 AM

Triple junk has consistently had front axle problems.

Chinese chromoly flexi flyer frames are one thing. Front axles not so much.

Or maybe they should try heating the building where they are welding them up.

The kids welding could see what they are doing thru their breath also.



Ive been running Tripple X front axles for 6 years now, I have yet to have one fail. one of my 2.5 chrome axles has over 130 nights on it and still going.  , ill be true with you,  and you can tell me your recomendations,  but,  save your breath  ill ignore them, i have bent and straitened front axles with no problems, ive used all thier bolt on items, with the car virtually laying on the top wing tree , after minor straitning it went back on the car, new aluminum legs were purchased at 1/5th the cost of a new tree and it has performed another 50 races with no problems now mind you,  some parts are too far gone to try reserect, but,  feel free to stop by sometime, ill give you the truth.. be aware,  you may not like it. every racer on a budget does it.. even some without a budget does...




blazer00
March 04, 2018 at 11:46:56 PM
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Posted By: ILSPRINTS on March 04 2018 at 08:27:06 AM

Do you know that Ford and Chevy design car parts with failure rates as a priority?  The ensure they will make you pay for failing parts for years to come.



At one time that was pretty acurate......we in the industry called it "designed obsolescence". That's not so much the caes anymore. The imports, namely Toyota and Honda forced the domestics to change that line of thinking. Ford and Chevy vehicles today last longer than they ever have. Before someone jumps in with a different opinion based on an experience, spare me the details. There are always exceptions with any brand. I'm driving a ten year old Impala LT and it's been the best car I've ever owned. Still no rattles!



cubicdollars
March 05, 2018 at 03:45:22 PM
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Posted By: dirtdevil on March 04 2018 at 09:56:10 PM

Ive been running Tripple X front axles for 6 years now, I have yet to have one fail. one of my 2.5 chrome axles has over 130 nights on it and still going.  , ill be true with you,  and you can tell me your recomendations,  but,  save your breath  ill ignore them, i have bent and straitened front axles with no problems, ive used all thier bolt on items, with the car virtually laying on the top wing tree , after minor straitning it went back on the car, new aluminum legs were purchased at 1/5th the cost of a new tree and it has performed another 50 races with no problems now mind you,  some parts are too far gone to try reserect, but,  feel free to stop by sometime, ill give you the truth.. be aware,  you may not like it. every racer on a budget does it.. even some without a budget does...



All BS aside, seriously watch out where the king pin bosses are welded in. 


 

 

 

They don't even know how to spell sprint car much less chromoly...http://www.ycmco.com


HoldenCaulfield
March 05, 2018 at 04:13:10 PM
Joined: 03/22/2008
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Posted By: blazer00 on March 04 2018 at 11:46:56 PM

At one time that was pretty acurate......we in the industry called it "designed obsolescence". That's not so much the caes anymore. The imports, namely Toyota and Honda forced the domestics to change that line of thinking. Ford and Chevy vehicles today last longer than they ever have. Before someone jumps in with a different opinion based on an experience, spare me the details. There are always exceptions with any brand. I'm driving a ten year old Impala LT and it's been the best car I've ever owned. Still no rattles!



I personally haven't had much luck with GM products but this is a true statement. With some cars having 100k mile warranties, companies that have a lot of premature failures won't stay in business long. 

 


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HoldenCaulfield
March 05, 2018 at 04:22:57 PM
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What a snoozer the Lincoln opener was, no passing and the most of the good cars(which wasn't many) dropped out. I split the cost of dirtstation with a buddy and the best part was the flashback race of Hewitt's win at Lincoln(early 90's?). Glad I didn't drive down there and sit in the cold and wind for that. PA needs to rethink racing in the winter. The on track poroduct is crap and car counts are low enough as it is. Starting this early and running until late Oct./early Nov. isn't helping. JMO


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tenter
March 05, 2018 at 06:49:40 PM
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I went and enjoyed a day outside. In the end, isnt that what its all about?





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