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SprintFan16
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November 03, 2017 at 04:50:33 PM
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...Dane Lorenc will be running as a teammate to Parker Price Miller with Destiny Motorsports backing. 

Yep, contain your excitement!




maflami44
November 03, 2017 at 05:10:09 PM
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This message was edited on November 03, 2017 at 05:10:37 PM by maflami44

So now they can have 2 cars that run 14th or worse each night.    A better "Destiny" may be to tackle the All-Star series instead of with WoO.   Build the team up, and then tackle the Outlaws.  JMO.



GTigers55
November 03, 2017 at 07:29:20 PM
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I'll always advocate for drivers racing where they watn because it's their money. But I guess I just don't understand this move on eithers part. Lorenc signed up to race full time all stars and ran a grand total of SEVEN all star races. He's got a bit of talent I'll give him that. Just don't understand how they'll be able to run the whole Outlaw schedule being based out of New York. Best of luck to him anyways, at least there is a guaranteed competition for rookie of the year.



DONT KNOW DONT CARE
November 03, 2017 at 07:48:29 PM
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You both may be right, I'm happy to see another car on tour. No matter where he finishes he will gain a lifetime of experience and join a very short list of folks who have run the outlaw tour.  I hope he and PPM can get rolling and have a decent season.



DONT KNOW DONT CARE
November 03, 2017 at 07:52:14 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on November 03 2017 at 07:29:20 PM

I'll always advocate for drivers racing where they watn because it's their money. But I guess I just don't understand this move on eithers part. Lorenc signed up to race full time all stars and ran a grand total of SEVEN all star races. He's got a bit of talent I'll give him that. Just don't understand how they'll be able to run the whole Outlaw schedule being based out of New York. Best of luck to him anyways, at least there is a guaranteed competition for rookie of the year.



If he's teamed up and traveling with Destiny, why does it matter where he's based out of?  Serious question, not trying to be smart.



blazer00
November 03, 2017 at 10:09:22 PM
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Posted By: DONT KNOW DONT CARE on November 03 2017 at 07:52:14 PM

If he's teamed up and traveling with Destiny, why does it matter where he's based out of?  Serious question, not trying to be smart.



I took it to mean that he'll be further from home nearly all season than all of the other drivers and that's tough enough even for the centrally located drivers. New York is really off the beaten path for the WoO.



DakotaDude
November 03, 2017 at 11:00:23 PM
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Posted By: blazer00 on November 03 2017 at 10:09:22 PM

I took it to mean that he'll be further from home nearly all season than all of the other drivers and that's tough enough even for the centrally located drivers. New York is really off the beaten path for the WoO.



I’m not trying to be snarky at all here, please don’t take it that way As I do understand where you are coming from. But Watertown, Connecticut is also off the beaten path for the WoO and it appears as if David Gravel has turned out just fine...  On a different note, maybe the move by Destiny for the two car team is to follow the path of Bobby Allen’s 2 car team as far as purse/platinum member status and benefits?  Just thinking that out loud. But I do scratch my head a bit like others on the move....



blazer00
November 04, 2017 at 02:41:26 AM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on November 03 2017 at 11:00:23 PM

I’m not trying to be snarky at all here, please don’t take it that way As I do understand where you are coming from. But Watertown, Connecticut is also off the beaten path for the WoO and it appears as if David Gravel has turned out just fine...  On a different note, maybe the move by Destiny for the two car team is to follow the path of Bobby Allen’s 2 car team as far as purse/platinum member status and benefits?  Just thinking that out loud. But I do scratch my head a bit like others on the move....



You're right about Gravel, but by my way of thinking, it's easier to be away from home in a wining car than it is in a struggling car......   Smile    And in an interview, Bobby Allen admitted that the boys aren't paid near what the other drivers on tour are paid.



DakotaDude
November 04, 2017 at 08:10:51 AM
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Posted By: blazer00 on November 04 2017 at 02:41:26 AM

You're right about Gravel, but by my way of thinking, it's easier to be away from home in a wining car than it is in a struggling car......   Smile    And in an interview, Bobby Allen admitted that the boys aren't paid near what the other drivers on tour are paid.



Very true about the struggling car vs one that’s up to speed. What I find even more so difficult is someone who I’ve never even heard of (I mean no disrespect) jumps into any ride, let alone a second car to a struggling team, is gonna jump on tour and try and maintain his confidence. More power to him if successful.  I don’t know how Clyde Knipp does it. Again more power to him. 

As far as Bobby Allen....what they have done with a fraction of the dinero of others is nothing short of amazing. 



Murphy
November 04, 2017 at 08:18:27 AM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on November 04 2017 at 08:10:51 AM

Very true about the struggling car vs one that’s up to speed. What I find even more so difficult is someone who I’ve never even heard of (I mean no disrespect) jumps into any ride, let alone a second car to a struggling team, is gonna jump on tour and try and maintain his confidence. More power to him if successful.  I don’t know how Clyde Knipp does it. Again more power to him. 

As far as Bobby Allen....what they have done with a fraction of the dinero of others is nothing short of amazing. 



      As far as Bobby Allen.... that may be a case of having enough talent to overcome the financial burden of racing. Once a national company figures out that they could get a lot of mileage out of sponsoring the Shark team I think you'd see a break-out year.



TheSprintFun
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November 04, 2017 at 09:18:15 AM
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No offense to Lorenc but they couldn't even tackle the entirety of the All-Star tour last year. Not sure if their intent was really to do it all or use it as a test, but it didn't last long. Have they even ran 90 sprint car races, let alone 90 in one season coast to coast?



HoldenCaulfield
November 04, 2017 at 10:34:51 AM
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Lorenc is a good young driver that ran well in 360's but with just 1 year or so of 410 experience, it's gonna be a struggle on the WOO tour. It's a struggle for any rookie but no better place to learn I guess. Best of luck to them.



GTigers55
November 04, 2017 at 08:20:18 PM
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This message was edited on November 04, 2017 at 08:22:52 PM by GTigers55

This may be the most rational discussion I've ever seen on here. Surprised someone hasn't come on here to rip this apart yet. Anyways, I think that's probably why the Destiny backing is there. In the press release I saw about this it said they had considered running as a family team only but when the affiliate team deal came to fruition they decided to do that with Destiny. I see what you're getting at with the whole being based out of NY doesn't matter thing. But it will be a long way from home as blazer said. I don't see why if they can fund running the full tour that Lorenc won't do well. The couple times I've seen him he's been very solid for the amount of experience he has. He's also ran about 5 of the sprint races at Eldora over the past two years to and one at Mansfield and one at Wayne County as well as some forays into PA. And Oshweken with WoO. So does have some limited travel experience.



DakotaDude
November 04, 2017 at 11:32:03 PM
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Posted By: Murphy on November 04 2017 at 08:18:27 AM

      As far as Bobby Allen.... that may be a case of having enough talent to overcome the financial burden of racing. Once a national company figures out that they could get a lot of mileage out of sponsoring the Shark team I think you'd see a break-out year.



You couldn’t be more correct on Bobby Allen. Not only does he have the talent, knowledge and experience, but I’m pretty sure he can squeeze a quar outta a dime!  I’d actually consider this year a breakout season for them with the wins Logan recorded. I’d sure like to see Jacob get one!



DakotaDude
November 04, 2017 at 11:32:45 PM
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Posted By: GTigers55 on November 04 2017 at 08:20:18 PM

This may be the most rational discussion I've ever seen on here. Surprised someone hasn't come on here to rip this apart yet. Anyways, I think that's probably why the Destiny backing is there. In the press release I saw about this it said they had considered running as a family team only but when the affiliate team deal came to fruition they decided to do that with Destiny. I see what you're getting at with the whole being based out of NY doesn't matter thing. But it will be a long way from home as blazer said. I don't see why if they can fund running the full tour that Lorenc won't do well. The couple times I've seen him he's been very solid for the amount of experience he has. He's also ran about 5 of the sprint races at Eldora over the past two years to and one at Mansfield and one at Wayne County as well as some forays into PA. And Oshweken with WoO. So does have some limited travel experience.



I honestly hope they do well!



turn4guy
November 05, 2017 at 05:41:50 AM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on November 03 2017 at 11:00:23 PM

I’m not trying to be snarky at all here, please don’t take it that way As I do understand where you are coming from. But Watertown, Connecticut is also off the beaten path for the WoO and it appears as if David Gravel has turned out just fine...  On a different note, maybe the move by Destiny for the two car team is to follow the path of Bobby Allen’s 2 car team as far as purse/platinum member status and benefits?  Just thinking that out loud. But I do scratch my head a bit like others on the move....



CJB is not in New York. Gravel is from Connecticut. CJB doesn't go back to Gravel's house on a break. Cmon man. 



DakotaDude
November 05, 2017 at 08:34:59 AM
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This message was edited on November 05, 2017 at 08:36:26 AM by DakotaDude
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Posted By: turn4guy on November 05 2017 at 05:41:50 AM

CJB is not in New York. Gravel is from Connecticut. CJB doesn't go back to Gravel's house on a break. Cmon man. 



Ummm...ya apparently are trying to start something.  If ya can read my post I plainly say Gravel is from Connecticut, not NY.  Heck, I even say the town. And do ya think I don’t realize that they don’t go to his house? Surely you must jest. I was simply trying to make a point and everyone here but you figured that out. Everyone on this thread also has been respectful etc...someone even said above how rational. i used to be on here all the time with the inception of this board, then turned into a mere lurker because of all the criticism if ya misspelled a word, liked a Ford, liked Schatz, asked a ? someone thought was dumb and you were made to feel like a 5 year old red headed stepchild. Heck you could have a little fun even now and then. Decided to come back recently and give it a you I might just be gone again.  Hope it feels good knowing ya started someone’s day off like shit. 



Dlucks83
November 05, 2017 at 08:47:43 AM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on November 05 2017 at 08:34:59 AM

Ummm...ya apparently are trying to start something.  If ya can read my post I plainly say Gravel is from Connecticut, not NY.  Heck, I even say the town. And do ya think I don’t realize that they don’t go to his house? Surely you must jest. I was simply trying to make a point and everyone here but you figured that out. Everyone on this thread also has been respectful etc...someone even said above how rational. i used to be on here all the time with the inception of this board, then turned into a mere lurker because of all the criticism if ya misspelled a word, liked a Ford, liked Schatz, asked a ? someone thought was dumb and you were made to feel like a 5 year old red headed stepchild. Heck you could have a little fun even now and then. Decided to come back recently and give it a you I might just be gone again.  Hope it feels good knowing ya started someone’s day off like shit. 



They are making the salient point that a driver's home town does not matter as compared to the team's shop location. Carlisle PA is 100s of miles and at least 5 hours better for the vast majority of tracks on the WoO circuit than anywhere in NY.



Sprint52
November 05, 2017 at 09:10:18 AM
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There's a very long list of drivers that should have the opportunity. Guess all it takes is money though



turn4guy
November 05, 2017 at 02:28:30 PM
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Posted By: DakotaDude on November 05 2017 at 08:34:59 AM

Ummm...ya apparently are trying to start something.  If ya can read my post I plainly say Gravel is from Connecticut, not NY.  Heck, I even say the town. And do ya think I don’t realize that they don’t go to his house? Surely you must jest. I was simply trying to make a point and everyone here but you figured that out. Everyone on this thread also has been respectful etc...someone even said above how rational. i used to be on here all the time with the inception of this board, then turned into a mere lurker because of all the criticism if ya misspelled a word, liked a Ford, liked Schatz, asked a ? someone thought was dumb and you were made to feel like a 5 year old red headed stepchild. Heck you could have a little fun even now and then. Decided to come back recently and give it a you I might just be gone again.  Hope it feels good knowing ya started someone’s day off like shit. 



Yeah to be honest DakotaDude it was a general statement to about 3 different people but I just happened to reply to your post. Point I'm trying to make is that the driver's hometown has nothing to do with being off the beaten path for the world of outlaws tour. Most drivers fly to and from home.  It's where the shop is based at that matters. Don't let a message board piss ya off dude. Watch some football, enjoy your Sunday. 





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