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I say SUPPORT OUR TROUPS, no matter what your feelings are on the current war.

Now, I have my opinions on the subject of this post, but I will not state them here. There is a time and a place, and this is NOT it.

here's a discrepency.

One wins the Nobel Peace Prize - and the other should consider himself fortunate that he's not tried for War Crimes in The Hague. - and he seems primed to get our ass kicked by Iran (or are we still naive enought to think we could win that one too?) - When was the last time we won a war or conflict? Maybe we don't because we aren't meant to - conflicts started for contracts to the wealthy aren't exactly virtuous. And now Turkey is about to punk us out of northern Iraq? This country is like an 0-16 NFL team that thinks they can still win the super bowl..............I'll cut this rant off short........

Gore's movie is now required to carry several disclaimers when shown in the EU...and no one is sure what it has to do with peace. many already question the political motiviations behind the award (is the nobel panel anti-clinton and giving up hope on obama?)...but at least he can go down in history in the same category as Yassir Arafat and Jimmie Carter as internationally acclaimed misfits.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21259069/

http://www.eux.tv/article.aspx?articleId=15975

here's a discrepency.

One wins the Nobel Peace Prize - and the other should consider himself fortunate that he's not tried for War Crimes in The Hague. - and he seems primed to get our ass kicked by Iran (or are we still naive enought to think we could win that one too?) - When was the last time we won a war or conflict? Maybe we don't because we aren't meant to - conflicts started for contracts to the wealthy aren't exactly virtuous. And now Turkey is about to punk us out of northern Iraq? This country is like an 0-16 NFL team that thinks they can still win the super bowl..............I'll cut this rant off short........

You know up until Bush got elected we had little or no problem surrouding the greenhouse effect. Unbeleivable that in less than 8 years he has screwed things so bad that we are set for global destruction in the not to distant future one way or another.

Oh yeah, go TK!!!!!!!!!!!

if the folks like you and the democratic party would let the people in charge and the military do what it needs to do without critisizing every little thing we might be able to win a war. but you are right with one party so diametrically oppsed to the other and willing to throw this country to the wolves just to say their point of view was correct we can never win. i do not agree with everything that has been done by "W", but i agree even less with the folks like you. (no offence to you personally). the rebuplican party needs to play clips of JFK to the democrats over and over and over to remind them just how far they have removed them selves from the party they were. these democratic candidates that are suggesting entitlements for people and socialistic values should see the "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" speach looped over and over.

as far as al gore goes, he was looked upon as a joke and a buffoon by everyone including democrats when he was the VP. he had his chance as well as "bubba" did to do the things they are now saying should be done. al gore was the butt of many a political joke from both sides. now he is looked upon as the messiah. WTF? you all had your chance to elect him. and you still may think you did with they way the election went. but my point is if he was so freak'in great why did he not get the support he needed when he needed it? if bush pulled out of iraq tomorrow you people would find a way to hate him for it. the democrats complained there was not enough troops in iraq at the beginning. then when more troops were sent they complained there were too many. when bush says POTATOE you say POTAH-TOE. if he said POTAH-TOE you would say POTATOE. it is not a matter of WHAT bush does that you don't like. it is ANYTHING bush does you don't like. and to top it off no democrat can really come up with a better realistic plan. they can come up with sound bites and solgans, but not anything more. and they can not give you the results or impact that any of their ideas would have in the aftermath. we can choose to disagree,but to disagree just because we choose to is not helping.

if the folks like you and the democratic party would let the people in charge and the military do what it needs to do without critisizing every little thing we might be able to win a war. but you are right with one party so diametrically oppsed to the other and willing to throw this country to the wolves just to say their point of view was correct we can never win. i do not agree with everything that has been done by "W", but i agree even less with the folks like you. (no offence to you personally). the rebuplican party needs to play clips of JFK to the democrats over and over and over to remind them just how far they have removed them selves from the party they were. these democratic candidates that are suggesting entitlements for people and socialistic values should see the "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" speach looped over and over.

as far as al gore goes, he was looked upon as a joke and a buffoon by everyone including democrats when he was the VP. he had his chance as well as "bubba" did to do the things they are now saying should be done. al gore was the butt of many a political joke from both sides. now he is looked upon as the messiah. WTF? you all had your chance to elect him. and you still may think you did with they way the election went. but my point is if he was so freak'in great why did he not get the support he needed when he needed it? if bush pulled out of iraq tomorrow you people would find a way to hate him for it. the democrats complained there was not enough troops in iraq at the beginning. then when more troops were sent they complained there were too many. when bush says POTATOE you say POTAH-TOE. if he said POTAH-TOE you would say POTATOE. it is not a matter of WHAT bush does that you don't like. it is ANYTHING bush does you don't like. and to top it off no democrat can really come up with a better realistic plan. they can come up with sound bites and solgans, but not anything more. and they can not give you the results or impact that any of their ideas would have in the aftermath. we can choose to disagree,but to disagree just because we choose to is not helping.

here's a discrepency.

One wins the Nobel Peace Prize - and the other should consider himself fortunate that he's not tried for War Crimes in The Hague. - and he seems primed to get our ass kicked by Iran (or are we still naive enought to think we could win that one too?) - When was the last time we won a war or conflict? Maybe we don't because we aren't meant to - conflicts started for contracts to the wealthy aren't exactly virtuous. And now Turkey is about to punk us out of northern Iraq? This country is like an 0-16 NFL team that thinks they can still win the super bowl..............I'll cut this rant off short........

Really, what does it mean to win a war? Our leaders for years have been happy with what I'd consider a draw in the last couple wars. If we're going to sacrifice lives of our own servicemen, then finish the d### job when we have the opportunity to do it. As far as republicans and democrates, they all have good and bad ideas. A person should vote for who they think has the more possitives to negatives, not because they call themselves one or the other. I have gone both ways in voting. Seems like the last few elections it's a matter of how bad do we want our country to suffer under the candidates that have run. Really too bad for this country we call home!!!!

Where do Gore, Clinton, Barack the Muslum, Thompson, Rudy and the others stand on important issues of the day...like t-shirt sales and sprint car rules?

Seriously, if Gore deserves a Nobel Peace Prize, sprint car racing should hire Terry McCarl to be commissioner of the sport.

I can't believe how wrong-headed the world and our country have become. The lack of TRUE leadership from either side is appalling.

if the folks like you and the democratic party would let the people in charge and the military do what it needs to do without critisizing every little thing we might be able to win a war. but you are right with one party so diametrically oppsed to the other and willing to throw this country to the wolves just to say their point of view was correct we can never win. i do not agree with everything that has been done by "W", but i agree even less with the folks like you. (no offence to you personally). the rebuplican party needs to play clips of JFK to the democrats over and over and over to remind them just how far they have removed them selves from the party they were. these democratic candidates that are suggesting entitlements for people and socialistic values should see the "ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" speach looped over and over.

as far as al gore goes, he was looked upon as a joke and a buffoon by everyone including democrats when he was the VP. he had his chance as well as "bubba" did to do the things they are now saying should be done. al gore was the butt of many a political joke from both sides. now he is looked upon as the messiah. WTF? you all had your chance to elect him. and you still may think you did with they way the election went. but my point is if he was so freak'in great why did he not get the support he needed when he needed it? if bush pulled out of iraq tomorrow you people would find a way to hate him for it. the democrats complained there was not enough troops in iraq at the beginning. then when more troops were sent they complained there were too many. when bush says POTATOE you say POTAH-TOE. if he said POTAH-TOE you would say POTATOE. it is not a matter of WHAT bush does that you don't like. it is ANYTHING bush does you don't like. and to top it off no democrat can really come up with a better realistic plan. they can come up with sound bites and solgans, but not anything more. and they can not give you the results or impact that any of their ideas would have in the aftermath. we can choose to disagree,but to disagree just because we choose to is not helping.

Yeah + Gore gave us the internet so he is directly responsible for our ability to have this message board to post on.

About the war. How many civilians have died at the hands of foreign troops US or other? How many have died by the actions of their own people? Although my opinions to the options have changed the last few years, it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out where the problem really lies. Do any of you honestly beleive that if all foreign troops withdrew from the country by the end of the month that the entire country would suddenly become a peacefull nation? What happens when we leave that country defenseless and Iran makes it part of their country? What happens when we leave and it becomes a training/tactical country for carrying out terrorist plans around the world including our own country? Radical Isalmic Terrorist will not drop the Radical or Terrorist part of their doctrine just because we leave Iraq. In fact, they are a large reason we are their in the first place whether you beleive it or not. They believe with their heart, mind and soul that when they die the more non-beleivers that they take out before or take with them the greater the reward on the other side. Do you really want them to have an entire country with the wealth of oil to use as their training ground?

Damn it. This crap shouldn't even be on this board. I don't visit political message boards because I don't like to get wound up like this.

Off my rant now.